L O S T

[graywarrior]

Dare I start this early?

Oh, and a warm up.

[Mojambo]

1. Airbrush much?

Man!

[graywarrior]

2. Him or the pole?

*snort*

[Mojambo]

3. Heh. n/t

[Auggie]

98. Thank you for not saying...

"photoshopped"

Man, that irks me.

[graywarrior]

101. It was Sawyershopped, thank you.

[graywarrior]

4. I wish this fucking show would come to a conclusion

Any conclusion. I can't take this.

[Bucky]

81. They're scheduled to run thru season six.

Your wish will be granted... in 2010!

[graywarrior]

102. No way!

Sheesh. I can't take this anymore.

[MorningGlow]

5. Jay-zus. My brain hurts.

I mean...just...Kate? Jack?

Do something for SAWYER?

And what Hurley said--was that a red herring for all the speculation by fans? But then...Hurley is usually right about things...um...

Ow. :banghead:

[graywarrior]

6. Jack and Claire's dad for fucks sake!

[MorningGlow]

7. Series. And where's Claire?

What Jack said in the "future" to Kate, about her not being related to Aaron--so he knows, eventually, that Aaron is his nephew? That seemed to be what he was implying.

And can I just say that Sawyer playing protector for Claire and Aaron is ADORABLE.

[graywarrior]

8. Adorably hawt.

Now, what about Jack being hairless in the future scenes when Juliette was shaving him on the island

[MorningGlow]

9. Hee hee I noticed that too

And where she was shaving--there was no hair there in the foist place.

Why yes, I do tend to fixate on these things...if by "these things" we mean hawt man-meats' six packs. I have no shame. :D

[graywarrior]

11. We're bad

[Scout]

37. where was Jack's appendectomy scar in the future scenes?

i did not see a scar when he was wearing his towel....

[MorningGlow]

41. Good question--I think we need to go back and examine that more closely

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Goblinmonger]

42. It's there

getlostpodcast.com and losteastereggs.blogspot.com both have the pictures for you to, um, "examine" if you wish.

[Iris]

85. I agree with your assessment of Sawyer's watching out for Claire.

Started last week.

[question everything]

106. I don't remember: does Clair know that Dr. Christian Shepard

is her dad? (though, of course, not that he is Jack's dad) And was it he in the island cradling Aaron?

[madinmaryland]

10. and F O U N D.

:wtf:

[graywarrior]

12. Jack's dad wore tennis shoes tonith and I found this theory online

When Jack saw Christian, his dad, in the woods and ran off to catch him, Christian was wearing white tennis shoes. Then Jack never actually found the body of Christian, so the possibility that he is still alive exists. Lastly the most convincing evidence that Christian is Jacob, is that in the episode where hurley “stumbles” and find the cabin. He approaches it and looks in through a cracked window. what happens? The scene focuses on WHITE tennis shoes, then slowly moves up to show a figure sitting in the chair. Because of the white tennis shoe connection.

[Iris]

86. ah! Very interesting!

Up until now, I never thought of Christian as Jacob - food for thought!

[snailly]

13. uhm...holy hell

I don't even know what to do with that. See if I click on one of your damn LOST posts again. lol
Gotdamn! That is all.

[graywarrior]

14. Hee hee

[Goblinmonger]

15. So do we agree on the timeline

Jack with Kate is before his attempted suicide? No beard and the beginnings of a drug addiction are my reasons for that.

And Hurley's tear. Wow.

[Javaman]

57. true, but why did his ex wife come to the hospital to pick him up?

that struck me as odd.

[question everything]

76. Jack and Kate obviously never got married and, as she explained

his ex was still listed as "notify in case of emergency."

[question everything]

16. Now we know who the six are:

Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Sawyer.

And is this the last we've seen of Claire?

I have to admit, I did not like this episode. Not sure, constantly checked my watch..

And I was thinking that the sanest that Hurley has been was when he was in the Island.

And it seems that many here, who said that Kate referred to Sawyer, at last season finale, were correct.

[cbayer]

17. No, not Sawyer

Jin. Didn't we see him back in Korea working for "the man"? Remember when he bought that teddy bear and we thought it would be for Sun, but it wasn't?

[question everything]

18. No, this was a flashback for Jin

When someone asked him whether it was for his baby he laughed and said, no, I've been married only four months.

And, remember, at the end, Sun and Hurley went to visit Jin's grave, even though it is possible that Jin just stayed behind in the island but is declared dead, like the rest of them.

Didn't Kate go to meet with Sawyer, when Jack demanded to know?

[cbayer]

19. I get confused about the flashbacks and flashforwards

I thought tonight jack said that Sawyer had decided to stay on the island. Kate said she was doing something for him that she promised to do, then Jack said (with his best pouty mad face) that Sawyer made his own decision not to leave.

As usual, I am pleasantly confused.

[Goblinmonger]

21. My assumption is that Kate

is doing something regarding Clementine.

[Javaman]

51. I agree...

because when she is first on the phone when jack comes home, she's talking very friendly and not at all flustered.

I think she and Sawyers ex (also the woman that helped kate find her mom) have become friends via sawyers daughter.

Why she won't devoluge that to jack...I haven't a clue.

[Goblinmonger]

61. My guess as to why she won't devoluge

1. It's about Sawyer and Jack is just jealous like that
2. Something nasty happened on the island involving Sawyer and Jack

[question everything]

73. Sawyer has a daughter?

What am I missing? I have seen every single episode and don't remember a wife or a daughter..

[Goblinmonger]

79. Clementine

had her with that woman he did the long con on (in the episode Long Con IIRC). When he got the payment for conning the guy in prison, he said to have the money put into Clementine's account.

[question everything]

71. Who is Clementine? (nt)

[lukasahero]

72. Sawyer's daughter eom

[Iris]

88. yes. I agree.

[SteppingRazor]

26. No she didn't meet with Sawyer.

She said she was doing something for him. And then Jack said that Sawyer had chosen to stay.

Sawyer is not one of the six. Why didn't you count the baby? I think he's the sixth one.

[lukasahero]

31. I'm not sure about Aaron (the baby)

He wouldn't have been on the passenger list since he hadn't been born yet so I haven't been counting him myself. But you're right about Sawyer not being one either. I think Walt is # 6.

[question everything]

74. Oops, I guess I misunderstood

I am still not sure about Aaron. He was not among the list of the passengers and Kate obviously presents him as hers.

Normally airlines do not like to have women in advanced pregnancy stage to fly, wonder whether this was noted on Claire. And if so, then it would not have been noted on Kate.

[Connonym]

20. I thought this was the best episode yet this season

and one of my male friends said I liked it because I was a chick. He thought the episode was "meh"

[Goblinmonger]

22. It's a chick thing.

:evilgrin:

I didn't think it was one of the greatest episodes; it was OK. I'm a guy. But here are my reasons:

1. Very little action. Which isn't bad because I assume there will be tons of it in the finale, but...
2. No mythology is advanced. OK, maybe the proposal, but that doesn't help understand what the F is going on.
3. All it did was open up more questions.

But, as a guy, Kate is so damn hot and we got to see PLENTY of her which made me happy.

[lukasahero]

33. It's not a chick thing

I thought this was one of the worst eps of all the seasons. I'm a "chick". :evilgrin:

Maybe it's because Jack's hero "I do EVERYthing better than EVERYone even surgery on myself" god complex makes me want to puke. But mostly it's for all the reasons you list above - especially the mythology one.

That's what keeps me tuning in over the seasons - trying to decipher the mythology and piece it all together. Very little happened tonight that ties any of the stories together except for the re-appearance of Jack and Claire's dad. But even that was left hanging - it provided no answers and the questions it raised aren't even all that significant.

Oh and no Locke. Never a good thing for an ep. :)

[semillama]

23. I thought it was a little disjointed, it didn't flow as well as the other shows

Did give us some pretty interesting things to talk about though. I wasn't sure where to place the Kate and Jack scenes in the post Island timeline - Aaron's about 2 in the flashforward scenes? So where does the court scene fit in - before this episode or afterwards? I had thought the flashforwards were generally linear, but the last two episodes have kind of put the kibosh on that.

And for the shaving scene with no hair - there's always hair that needs to be removed, even the small hairs that aren't very visible.

I did like seeing Bernard in action, too.

[MorningGlow]

25. Court was before Jack and Kate shacking up

It was mentioned in the show last night--by Jack, I think, when he was talking to Hurley? Said they got together after the trial and he was glad he changed his mind. Or maybe Kate told Jack she was glad he changed his mind. I'm zo confused! But it was mentioned, anyway.

Good point about Bernard--it's easy to forget that the relatively minor characters have talents too--it's not just the principles who can help save the Losties.

[Zuiderelle]

28. Yes, Jack mentioned to Hurley that it was after the trial that they got together.

[cbayer]

36. Somewhat off topic

Ok, really off topic, but I have to make a correction.

Pre-op shaving is a major problem and there is a huge movement to stop it. There is a much higher rate of post-op infection when patients are shaved, as opposed to "clipping". It's an old tradition that many surgeons (because, let's face it, they are surgeons) are having trouble giving up.

Now, back on topic. Do you think Juliet really took out his appendix or did she implant something into him? Why is Jack sick when no one ever gets sick?

[Goblinmonger]

43. If she implanted something

then Bernard is in on it. I think it is what Rose said. The island is making it's move.

[cbayer]

44. Bernard is a dentist

He might not know what to look for. I think she was more afraid of having Kate in the room because she would watch everything very closely.

[Iris]

91. I thought Kate should have stayed.

Why would she need to leave just because they were putting Jack under?

[Connonym]

97. Not necessarily

Julia was still sewing Jack up when Kate came back to the room, Bernard left to go get Kate before Jack was sewn up so something still could have been stuck in there w/o Bernard seeing it.

[Iris]

90. Interesting about the shaving.

May store that little tidbit up for a future flamewar....


As far as Jack getting sick - do you think it is fate? Rose very pointedly mentioned it to Bernard, so it's probably significant.

[cbayer]

95. Rose was highly suspicious of Jack's illness, wasn't she?

I also thought that the rushing Kate out of the room seemed a little set up. If I were Jack I would want to take a look at that diseased appendix. He would know right away if he actually did have appendicitis.

I can get you details on the shaving vs. clipping issue.

[Iris]

99. yes! He SHOULD look at the appendix!

The whole thing is very, very suspicious. I have just never had a good feeling about Juliet.

Would love details on shaving vs. clipping. Feel free to PM me, if you want!

[Javaman]

52. two pieces of rushed writing that jumped out at me.

first the "smoke alarm" going off. jeeez, come on writers, I know you were needing a device to get jack out into the lobby, but come on.

All smoke alarms are hardwired in buildings. Yeah, I'm picky but a little research would show that and besides, they could have used a million other ways for him to get out there.

Then the drug pushing fellow doctor that keeps prescription pads in her front pocket.

Good god. Dr. feelgood??? I know they needed to show a moment when jack makes the turn to start using drugs, but come on.

That scene was just awful.

ohhh damn and the sudden attack of appendicitis. Come on. did they use that on an episode of McMillon and Wife and countless other hackneyed shows??? Pul-eease.

[Goblinmonger]

53. I'm glad I'm not the only one

who thought that about the smoke detector. My wife rolled her eyes at me when I said, "Like they would use battery ones in an office building." Plus the horrendous pun of "smoke" detector/"smoke" monster was shoddy.

[semillama]

64. Ah, but perhaps that smoke detector WAS detecting smoke

if you subscribe to the theory that the "smoke monster" from the Island can take on the form of dead loved ones. So, it could have set off the alarm...


Disclaimer: That theory is not one I came up with nor necessarily endorse as probable.

[lost-in-nj]

109. I have wired in smoke detectors that have a battery for

backup in case of a power failure....

and mine beep when they die.....

lost


:hi:

[SteppingRazor]

27. I gotta admit, I thought this episode was powerfully "meh."

Possibly the worst episode of the season. That said, I understand that we needed the episode to connect some dots.

[question everything]

77. Agree. I do not remember others when I'd check my watch to see how long

before the hour ends.

Am not sure why, perhaps, as others pointed, it was disjointed.

[Iris]

87. No - Kate was referring to Aaron, not Sawyer.

imo

[unpossibles]

24. last night's "Jackspoitation" episode was good, but not great

On the other hand, it made me wonder if those flashforwards Jack had were actually him coming unstuck in time, like Desmond did. And if perhaps others were as well.

[underpants]

29. Sorry I am so late-I spent most of the morning looking for screengrab's of Kate from last night

:wow:

[graywarrior]

30. She wears baby dolls well, doesn't she?

[underpants]

32. She wears everything well

:wow:

[graywarrior]

34. I like it when she wears Sawyer

[cbayer]

40. I just get all envious when she wears Sawyer.

That pic you have up there is making me nuts.

[graywarrior]

45. I have a Sawyer Shrine with that photo as the lead tool for meditation.

Shallow....

[cbayer]

49. You have that photo on a lead tool for what?

:hide:

[graywarrior]

63. Insertion.

DUmmy. *snort*

[Goblinmonger]

35. I bet

she wears nothing pretty damn well, too. :evilgrin:

[SoxFan]

105. Claire wears, well...

(yes, that's Emily DeRavin)

[Goblinmonger]

39. Don't Bogart those screengrabs! n/t

[Goblinmonger]

38. Question about Charlie's message for Jack

I remember that Isaac (that's his name, right, the psychic Claire sees in Australia) tells her that she is supposed to raise the baby. Do we know before yesterday if Jack knows that because his reaction to Hugo's message was that he had heard that? If not, my guess is we will see a scene with Clair, Christian, and Jack in the future.

[Iris]

92. I don't think Jack could have known about that.

Would Claire have told him? I totally forgot about the psychic - thanks for bringing that up.

Do you think Jack knows Claire is his sister at any point in time that we've seen so far?

[Javaman]

46. did everyone miss the obvious clue?????

the future we are seeing is not the real future.

don't you get it????

Jack, in the beginning of the episode, looks at the morning news paper and it has a headline about the Yankees beating the Rox Sox in the World Series!

It's the wrong future!!

This is why they need to go back to the island to set things straight.

[graywarrior]

47. Yes yes yes, I got that!

Plus the no scar from surgery and the hairless torso. However, why does the kid look like he's about a year old?

[MorningGlow]

48. That was my first thought the minute I saw Jack and Kate's "ideal" future

If Ben and Widmore (and the island) know how to screw with time, then the things we see in the flash forwards aren't necessarily permanent. That would make me happy because that would mean Jin wouldn't have to be dead.

[Javaman]

50. well, given the fact that the yanks and boston are in the same

division and I don't think (not sure) it's statistically possible for them to face off in the world series to begin with...

I'm thinking that what we were watching was a future that is impossible to happen.

So the timeline of reality on that show has been seriously screwed up by them coming back to "reality".

This is why they have to go back to the island, to "reset things".

[graywarrior]

59. This game happened on August 30, 2007. It also took place before the season 3 finale,

which would have put that scene ever further into the future. So, did we see a flash future forward?

[semillama]

65. There's some thinking that the prop guy screwed up with this paper

And they didn't catch it in time that the timeline would be wrong - but that seems like a major screw up for a prop that gets focused on.

[graywarrior]

68. Could be just another thing that is put there to trip everyone up.

[Goblinmonger]

80. I heard speculation that the screw up

was with the paper with the obituary in it. they didn't think people would search out the date of the paper. I think this all makes sense only if Through the Looking Glass takes place after the most recent episode.

[Goblinmonger]

55. I like the thinking but couple problems

1. The article is not about the world series (it is impossible for those two teams to play each other in the world series).

2. Given the other scores that are reported, it is in reference to a series between the two in August 07.

My thought is that this show is about redemption (OK, I really like Rime of the Ancient Mariner, give me a break). And we will find out that some horrible crap happened in Jack "saving" Kate that he needs to redeem himself for.

[Javaman]

60. ooo good catch.

well there goes my theory. LOL

[Iris]

93. I did notice that but couldn't put it together.

I remembered Jack watching that World Series game on the island when he was being held captive, but didn't put this together!

[cbayer]

96. OMG!! You saw that too.

I was sure that is what I saw and I was equally sure that never happened. Well, first of all,they are both AL teams, so they wouldn't play each other in the Series. So, I thought they must mean championship. But that didn't happen either in the time frame we are supposedly working within.

Mr. cbayer said that I mis-read the headline. We don't have TIVO or any of that kind of thing, so I just decided I had seen it wrong.

Great catch!

[LanternWaste]

54. Nice, subtle, and gentle pacing in this ep.

Nice, subtle, and gentle pacing in this ep. Gives me the opportunity to observe, reflect and relax on the character development unlike the earlier episodes this season-- full of sharp turns, emotional highs and lows, and tension.

I think this was written and designed to finally allow us to relive some stress

[Goblinmonger]

56. I agree that that is the point.

I am sure things are going to get quite hectic in the finale. But the problem I have is that no mythology was advanced and only more questions were raised. Those episodes frustrate me. I can deal with "here are some answers that bring up more questions" but not "no answers for you but here are more questions."

[LanternWaste]

62. I'm not married to having every episode advance plot-line...

I'm not married to having every episode advance plot-line. As long as character development (emotion, back-story, sub-plots, etc) is advanced (as it is every episode-- this one in particular), I'm more than satisfied...


I like the pacing and the dramatic ebb and flow a multi-year story line affords.

[Iris]

94. I agree. Remember how the first season seemed to have really intense episodes with lots of info.

in between more "gently paced" eps?

[MorningGlow]

67. I agree--I don't need all my eps to be "wild rides"

I appreciate the quieter eps as well--although even the "quieter" ones are far from quiet--in order to develop emotion and character interaction. I found this ep had me coiled up tight as a spring as much as the crazier ones, chewing my nails, wondering what was going to happen next.

And extra kudos for Hurley--great emotional scene. :applause:

[LanternWaste]

69. Hurley's my favorite...

Hurley's my favorite character. I think he should be sainted by the Catholic Church and knighted by the British Empire.

I'd love to collate all his material and edit it into the "Wisdoms of the World According to Hurley".

"Can I have a flashlight? Because the whole torch with the dynamite thing's not making a whole lot of sense to me..."

:)

[MorningGlow]

104. "Dude. ...Dude."

:rofl:

LOVE Hurley! Great idea for a book, BTW--you should definitely do that!

[FedUpWithIt All]

58. I think the six may actually be dead as Hurley suggests.

As far as we know, at least Jack and Sun are in somewhat mortal danger. Hurley is wandering to the cabin with Ben and Locke, both of whom are capable of being a bit self centered and dangerous when self concerns are in play. In a looking glass move, Jack says he SAVED Kate, what if he in fact was the reason behind her dying thus "getting off the island".

Cannot explain the others in the "6" but the convo with Hurley seemed to ring true in light of the situations affecting the others.

[semillama]

66. Did anyone else notice that the construction paper flowers and objects

on the fridge in Kate and Jack's house are the same ones that were in Santa Rosa when Hurley was visited by Michael Abbadon?

[underpants]

70. Oooh

nice catch. I'll check it out.

[Goblinmonger]

82. getlostpodcast.com

has good shots of them. Plus it's a bitchin site.

[GreenPartyVoter]

75. I thought Kate was preggers???

[Iris]

100. I don't think so.

There was an ep that suggested that might be true but then it turned out not to be. Basically, viewers were led to believe she was b/c she has a child in the future but then the child turned out to be Aaron.

[GreenPartyVoter]

103. I must have missed an epi somewhere then. :^)

[Iris]

108. It may be the ep titled "Eggtown"

You can check it out here:

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

[question everything]

107. Also, because when the others came to grab the pregnant

women and to kill the rest - it was hinted that Kate may be included.

And then when she spent the night with Sawyer, after the split, it was hinted.

[Kajsa]

78. WOW- Sawyer! ( whew)

I'm so glad we got a clue re:Sawyer.

" He decided to stay".

Now, whether that future is real or not
remains to be seen.

Another Thursday night , more questions,
less answers.

It's

LOST!, folks.

:)

[Goblinmonger]

84. As to the future being real

the producers/creators have said that the future is real. They aren't going to do a Dallas and play with alternate timelines. Of course they could just be lying, but I tend to believe them given the level of fans they are dealing with.

[Kajsa]

89. Thanks, Goblin.

That makes it a bit easier
to follow the story line.

:hi:

[Bucky]

83. Major spoiler alert here folks, but I have in on good authority that Sawyer is...

the 12th Cylon!