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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:59 PM
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I'm an elitist asshole...A history "quiz" was emailed & I got a C+.
Edited on Fri May-23-08 11:29 PM by JanMichael
"You answered 47 out of 60 correctly — 78.33 %" This is NOT great!

Not even a "B" ok.

Those were the results.

But I was/am/drunk, really pissed, on a Friday night I still smoked apparently everyone with a C+...hic....that's pathetic...even more than me!

http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx

78.33%...drunk and generally angry too...beer brain damaged...but for fun...shits and giggles...

"Harvard finished first, with a mean score of 69.59% right answers -- about a D+. Grove City College in Pennsylvania was runner up (67.26%), followed by Washington & Lee (66.98%) and Yale (65.85%). U.Va. was 6th (65.28%). Here's how NC schools fared: Duke 9th (63.41%), UNC- Chapel Hill 18th (56.68%), Pfeiffer 40th (44.30%)"

10% plus you dumbfucks!

EDIT: I shud ad _ frum thee intrwab.

"The overall average score for the approximately 7,000 seniors who took the American civic literacy exam was 54.2%, an “F.” That is consistent with the overall average of 53.2% posted by seniors last year. Not one college surveyed can boast that its seniors scored, on average, even a “C” in American civic knowledge."

Thees ar tha yung edumacated peeple two!
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:32 PM
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1. I got them all right. Some of them were rather tough, though.
The statistics don't really surprise me.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:45 PM
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5. Which were tough for you?
Edited on Fri May-23-08 11:47 PM by JanMichael
The specific dates and names were a breeze for me but there were some subjective questions.

There was slight capitalist dominant twist...

Edit: again I am/was shit faced when I took it. Then again I don't think that is worth more than 5 points.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:05 AM
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7. Yes, there were some subjective questions, and a little bias.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 12:06 AM by Unvanguard
#31 I found a little difficult, mostly because I was not familiar with Tocqueville enough to eliminate his answer with certainty.

#48 I also had some trouble with, mainly because the correct answer (C) seemed a little weird, and one alternative (E) is at least plausible. There are real issues with central banks trying to control inflation in the context of supply shocks--it's only the word "influence", a very weak standard, that makes that answer wrong.

#49 is just an awful definition of capitalism, but I know what the "official answer" is, so I didn't find it particularly difficult.

#50 I hesitated for a while on... I decided on A by process of elimination. A does actually make sense, but isn't usually the reason given (at least not in that phrasing), which tend to focus more on incentives.

Some of the others (for instance, 58) I knew without any trouble, but are still tough questions that most intelligent and knowledgeable people might not know... I just happen to have an interest in the subject.
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:34 PM
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2. I managed an 80%.
Damn is that ever a tough quiz!
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:36 PM
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3. 90% - The economics questions tripped me up somewhat.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:37 PM
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4. Yep. Whilst I work (my purpose) for the un-rich in my job I am still an elitest asshole.
Yep nothing I say is legitimate because of my relatively shitty salary which is two times the poverty limit and near (above) the local median by a sliver...It's a no winner. Because while I still don't make a huge amount of $$$ I'm still not as worse off as 50% of the population...what's a self proclaimed commie to do?
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:53 PM
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6. You answered 52 out of 60 correctly — 86.67 %
Not too bad... :-)
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 03:10 AM
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18. Same here
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 06:48 AM
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21. My score as well
Tough questions. I am most embarrassed by getting the first one wrong.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:07 AM
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8. I did pretty well on the stuff that I ever actually learned.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:12 AM
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9. Heh. 88.33%
You answered 53 out of 60 correctly — 88.33 %
Average score for this quiz during May: 69.2%
Average score since September 18, 2007: 69.2%

You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average.

If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email americancivicliteracy@isi.org.
You can consult the following table to see how freshmen and seniors scored on each question as part of the survey administration.

Where to from here?
Answers to Your Missed Questions:
Question #5 - D. Yorktown
Question #9 - B. was a stalemate.
Question #23 - B. Marbury v. Madison.
Question #36 - D. The authority of a legitimate sovereign.
Question #54 - D. can be reversed by government spending more than it taxes.
Question #55 - E. increased for the lower and middle classes and increased most for the upper class.
Question #60 - B. social security.
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MullenBank Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:30 AM
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10. 54/60
90%. Interesting quiz. Really broad. At least I thought so.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:44 AM
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11. Beat you. 52/60.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 12:45 AM by ih8thegop
:-)
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:11 AM
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12. 73.33%
Not bad, considering I'm not even American. :P
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:49 AM
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13. That's not good for the self esteem...
51/60 :(
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:53 AM
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14. I think I'm the biggest elitist asshat in the thread. 95%
For some demographics, Undergrad at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Missed questions on the powers of Congress (I somehow blanked on whether or not they receive ambassadors or regulate foreign commerce, and guessed wrong), just war theory, and spending on the debt vs. social security.

Did it with an open bottle of Md 20/20 on my desk, too. Go Mr. Ockerlander's US government and civics class!
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 01:57 AM
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15. Not quite.
I beat you--100%. Elitist asshattery is my specialty. :)
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:27 AM
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17. Well played, sir! A drink for you.
:toast:
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idlisambar Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 02:03 AM
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16. 96.67 -- missed 2
I guessed well on 2 or 3 :)
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:12 AM
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19. 88.33% while under the influence.
(last night, not now)

I have problems with some of the findings as interpreted to a general-public audience, though. Foremost is the assumption that a university education exists to teach students civics. IMO, students should've learned civics all the way through school. It's a little late to start playing catch-up in college. We cannot continue use college as a remedial training ground for every subject under the sun. We do too much of that already.

If universities implemented everything in the various "college is failing our children (by not doing what my particular advocacy group wants)" reports out there, nobody would ever graduate. They'd be so busy taking classes on everything under the sun that there would be no way to satisfy all of the requirements in a remotely reasonable amount of time. Additionally, so many of the what-my-particular-advocacy-group-wants things are in direct conflict with each other that trying to teach all of them would do nothing but cause confusion.

And before anyone says "but this came out of a university," so do reports from the http://www.hoover.org/">Hoover Institution. Not all university-generated reports are created equal. I think these guys have good intentions, mind you.

Yes. The level of civics knowledge in undergrads, if the students I get are any indicator, is deplorable, if those test scores are in fact representative. I'd be interested to see their sampling frame, including how participants were recruited (incentives? was the sampling random? was the phrase "take this fun quiz" involved, meaning the students would have had a lower level of engagement with the material?)
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Indi Guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 05:30 AM
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20. This Survey is a Fucking Farce!...
...It starts out as a study of historical awareness -- then degenerates to compartmental questions re: global business.

Gak! If I want big business questionnaires, I'll snail-mail Fox News!!!

:puke:
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:03 AM
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22. 83%--Not bad, given all the economics questions
Economics was not my best subject in school. It's probably why I'm constantly broke now.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:35 AM
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23. 51 of 60.
Missed the economic ones, the annoying things. :D 85%.
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:51 AM
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24. 78.33% For Me Too
So embarrassing considering my academic background:
B.A. majoring in Political Science and Sociology
J.D. with an emphasis in Business Law

To make things worse most of my working career has been in some element of the finance industry.:P
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