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briv1016 Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 04:19 AM
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Goodbye Windows XP
Stores still have to clear out there inventories and Mom & Pop computer shops are allowed to load XP till the end of the year; but for the rest of us it is the end of an era. Goodbye XP.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 04:21 AM
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1. Guess I'd better get a new laptop before the end of the year then.
x(

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 02:07 PM
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15. Plan ahead, newegg now
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 06:54 AM
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2. Shit...we're stuck with Windows 'Shitastic' Vista
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:00 AM
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3. Yep
Even now using Vista SP1 it still runs like it's in beta testing.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 02:54 PM
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17. Have you given Linux a shot? Specifically Ubuntu??
I think you'd be surprised at how easy it is to use, and how much it's evolved.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 06:58 PM
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23. OK
I'm not a computer geek per se. I'm frankly annoyed that managing the freaking OS has become such a huge part of my computing experience. So, if I go to linux, why should I choose unbuntu?

And what do I use for:
• virus protection
• media player
• Lit reader
• file manager (I really like Total Commander)
• online games that need to install aps (partypoker, fulltilt, etc.)
• what about all the media I have stored as windows files

TIA



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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:06 PM
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24. I'm not interested in Linux...as I've encoutered far too many pretentious shitbags
who are proud users of Linux.
Kinda soured me on the whole deal.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 09:33 AM
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31. I apologize, and completely understand...
...That's one of the reasons I stopped going to a particular Linux Users Group for help. I just offer it up as an alternative to Windows because, in my opinion, it's a viable option for a relative "non-technical" computer user. It wasn't always like that, but Ubuntu has done a great deal to make the Linux OS much more manageabe. It's regrettable that certain individuals ruin a good thing for the vast majority. If you decide to reconsider, I'd be happy to help you if needed! :thumbsup:
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:26 PM
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26. we run LINUX for everything except games.
we have a dual setup where the computer can be changed from LINUX to Windows XP at logon

LINUX is great.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 09:35 AM
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32. Have you tried a virtualization suite?
I use VMWare running on Ubuntu, and have several "Guest Operating Systems" installed. When someone makes a good *nix version of iTunes, then I can get rid of Windows once and for all.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 11:09 AM
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33. would that run WOW, and various Windows based PC games?
inquiring minds want to know
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 04:15 PM
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35. Absolutely!
In fact, it's just like having an entire Windows Computer. Basically, VMWare sets up a "Virtual Computer" within another computer, and lets you install a whole range of Operating Systems on that "Virtual Computer". It's really like having 2 computers in one. VMWare, Virtual PC, and Parallels are the major Virtualization Suites out there. I'm partial to VMWare because it's the one I've used the longest, but it's really like the argument over which Anti-virus software is better. They all do a pretty decent job, and the rest is down to personal preference.
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:07 AM
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4. Meanwhile, Intel has refused to upgrade its corp. desktops
to Vista. I have no plans to roll it out in my IT shop either. I have it on a work desktop, a home desktop, and my laptop, and I've made a new IT hire a test guinea pig for it. We installed Virtual PC on his Vista box so he could run his XP dev tools on it. The eye candy is nice, too bad it's a mess under the hood. They made some operations more complicated than they were in XP...especially networking config control panels.

Thank God for our volume license of XP... ;) We've been stocking up on OEM XP discs too, since the point-of-sale system we sell isn't ready for Vista. Microsoft is effectively cutting off access for mainstream customers to the only version of Windows most developers are writing for, as only 12% of surveyed developers are bothering to develop for Vista, if a recent CNet poll (IIRC) is to be believed.

My advice to home users, especially in a single-machine environment, is to hie thee hence to thy nearest Apple store and purchase a nice Macintosh.

Todd in Cheesecurdistan
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:12 AM
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5. I'm sooooo glad I switched to a mac....
November of last year I made the switch on my home computer. Best thing I ever did. Especially since my parents right around the same time got new PC's that had vista.

The only downside is that my work laptop is still a dell with windows(at least it's XP). But the difference between going to work and using this thing and coming home and using a Mac.....I was as bit a skeptic as anyone on the whole mac thing but everything anyone has ever said favorable about macs is 110% true.
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:18 AM
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6. ME FREAKING TOO.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:44 PM
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28. Me three
I got a low-end Intel-based MacBook in December of '06, after using mostly Windows since the mid-90s. I haven't looked back since.

I still use WinXP at work, but otherwise it's Mac all the way.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 08:14 AM
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7. It's a shame, XP eventually was worked into a solid operating system
while Vista is a bloated poorly designed piece of crap. You need at least 2 gigs of ram to run Vista and frankly you get nothing in return. I really think Microsoft blew it with Vista. They are chasing the idea of a must have operating system, sort of like what they had with windows 95 and windows 2000. The problem is there really isn't much more room for improvement. So instead of making critical upgrades, they made unneeded upgrades that bogged their sytems down and made rediculus security changes, that make the system annoying to use.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 11:50 AM
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13. I agree nt
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 08:27 AM
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8. Now that I finally have income I've been thinking about investing in a portable computer of some
kind. Laptop or maybe even pay the extra money for a tablet PC. But I sure as hell don't want a buggy flashy 3d OS hogging all my resources... guess I'd better try and get extra hours in when I can and earn my money fast. :\
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 08:27 AM
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9. Took one look at Vista, went Linux
and haven't come back - BUT i might have to, for Diablo III.

Hawkeye-X
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 08:28 AM
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10. Yeah Vista bites
I am refusing too to upgrade. I really like XP professional. Vista is just like Windows ME, effin' horrible.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 11:17 AM
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11. I did just read in today's paper
that Microsoft has agreed to support XP until 2014.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 06:34 PM
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22. Support and sell are two different things.
:(
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:22 PM
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25. You actually buy this stuff?
Sorry, living in Asia this stuff is like air.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:38 PM
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27. Well I didn't...
long (and rather amusing) story actually.

I got a legal copy of XP and Visual Studio .NET for free. :)

But still.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 07:48 PM
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29. MS supported Windows NT 4 until Dec 2004
It was released in 1996, and the last service pack was released in 2001.

Too many organizations have too much invested in XP for it to be sunsetted much earlier. My employer is still in the process of upgrading some of its workstations to XP from Win2k. And given our current budget situation, I doubt we'll be upgrading to Vista any time in the next couple years.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 11:27 AM
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12. I'm going to hold on to XP until my computer dies.
When that happens, I'll probably move to Linux.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 05:59 PM
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19. That's my plan as well
Edited on Mon Jun-30-08 06:00 PM by pokerfan
I need to score some PC-800 RAM while that's still available.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 01:57 PM
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14. Guess I'll have to get up-to-speed on Linux or Apple before my next computer. nt
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 02:40 PM
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16. Got my first Mac. Love it.
I got sick of bloated software, crashes, and endless patches.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 05:39 PM
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18. I use Vista to learn how to troubleshoot it, but my extended family all are on Macs
Not a single support call from them :D
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 06:17 PM
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20. When my laptop kicks it, hello PowerMac!
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 06:32 PM
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21. "AARRGGHH!!" Says the pirate.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-30-08 09:21 PM
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30. I said goodbye to XP on this laptop about a month ago
It's three years old, but XP has always run like a slug on it. I finally had enough, so I've spent the last month distro hopping, must have tried out 30 different ones, and I've recently settled on Pardus Linux 2008. It rocks. Example: I didn't realize the USB ports in this thing were 2.0; XP only treated them as ver. 1. Imagine my surprise when Linux moved stuff around about 100 times faster than Windows did. Scribus kicks Publisher's ass. Everything is blazing fast now, I could go on and on. . .

I'm going to switch over my desktop too, but I'll have to go dual boot on that one. It needs a new C: drive anyway, so it'll be easy.

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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-01-08 11:15 AM
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34. They can have my copy of XP
When they format it from my cold dead hard drive.

Vista blows. Macs blow. Linux blows.

Bite me, fan boys.
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