KitchenWitch
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Wed Jul-09-08 08:46 PM
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Now maybe Patsy Ramsey can rest in peace. |
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The Boulder DA finally cleared the family of any wrongdoing in the murder of JonBenet
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Wed Jul-09-08 08:50 PM
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Wed Jul-09-08 08:53 PM
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2. I still think the father's into it up to his shifty, sleazy eyeballs. |
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I mean, what kind of pervoid whose name is "John Bennet" names his daughter "JonBenet" so she'll have essentially the same name?
I still believe that the stress of covering for her husband was what put Mrs Ramsey into her grave.
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Wed Jul-09-08 08:55 PM
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3. I wasnt aware she died.. |
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that entire debacle is very sad.
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Wed Jul-09-08 10:25 PM
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10. Sadly yes, she died from a recurrence of ovarian cancer.... |
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She'd been diagnosed and fought off ovarian cancer two years before her daughter's death. The cancer returned years later and she died in 2006.
As for JonBenet's name, there was a tendency to use family names with the Ramseys. John Ramsey's deceased daughter by his first marriage shared her middle name with (presumably) his first wife's maiden name. So I have to admit that I don't find JonBenet's name to be all that unusual considering the history of a preference for family names... Oh, BTW, her middle name was Patricia, after her mother...
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Wed Jul-09-08 09:59 PM
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5. One who didn't have a son |
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but wanted someone to carry what may be a traditional family name? Just guessing... :shrug:
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Wed Jul-09-08 10:52 PM
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13. It was my understanding that they had a son older than JonBenet |
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IIRC, there was some speculation in the mid-90's that he might have been involved in the killing, out of jealousy, etc.
That's the beauty of media-driven ad hoc pop psychology.
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Wed Jul-09-08 11:18 PM
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My post was just idle speculation anyway...
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Wed Jul-09-08 11:20 PM
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Oops! I just reread what I posted, and I think I came across as accusing you of practicing media-driven pop psychology. I'm sorry about that--my snarkiness was intended against the media itself and speculators back when the events were current. I didn't mean for it to be an attack against you.
Sorry!
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Wed Jul-09-08 11:23 PM
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I didn't get that from your post. Thank you so much for your kind, though unnecessary, apology! :hi:
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Wed Jul-09-08 09:58 PM
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4. It's weird because there wasn't really any new information uncovered. |
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But the DA's office "exonerated" the Ramseys.
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Wed Jul-09-08 10:10 PM
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8. New kind of DNA technology, from what I understand. |
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Called "touch" DNA, where they can get DNA info from a place where someone touched something. In the case of JonBenet, the DNA they just tested using the new technology showed that it was no one in the family.
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Wed Jul-09-08 10:13 PM
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9. The DNA exactly matches DNA they already had |
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and from essentially the same place (underwear band). They just got the same DNA a new way. That is, same DNA matches to what they already had in pretty much the same place.
Not exactly a "Eureka!" moment.
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Wed Jul-09-08 10:02 PM
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6. well as far as I consider it |
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they were always in the clear and are innocent until proven guilty, and all, so had the Boulder cops actually conducted a competent investigation, and had the media not spent ungodly amount of time and focus on the murder of one person (yeah it was little girl, but how many murders are there a day in this country?) all the while hyping it up to ridiculous levels and pressuring the investigators to rush the job and not be at all thorough, the murderer might've been found by now; Or not, because sometimes there is the perfect crime, as shitty as that is.
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Wed Jul-09-08 10:06 PM
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7. Fucking Botched Up Deal, Or Maybe Graft... |
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after all the Ramseys had a lot of money and Ramsey's company employed Boulderites.
Personally my theory is this:
Mother jealous, son realizes this, hates Jon Benet because mother is so focused on her and yet so jealous of her as well. The jealousy? What's it about? Daddy who has been perhaps abusing little Jon Benet.
So brother realizes he can't get Mommy's love until JB is out of the way. JB is totally compartmentalized and traumatized by the abuse and the father is throwing a fit about wanting more access to JB.
Brother kills JB so he can have his mother's attention back and he can be #1 child to her again.
gtFather and mother realize that the son did it. Unfortunately a therapist or someone working with the family told them that JB would be a threat to him if he continued
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Wed Jul-09-08 10:35 PM
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11. I'm not convinced they are pure |
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Even if the DNA didn't match, the killer could be an accquaintance of the Ramsey's. My guess is that they know who the killer is, but for whatever reason (complicity, blackmail,) they willingly chose to keep quiet. Something about that couple has been more than a little off from the begining.
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Wed Jul-09-08 10:40 PM
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12. No new "touch DNA" lifted from the unusual ransom note |
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which is the weirdest evidence in the case as far as I'm concerned. Have you ever read this analysis of it? http://www.statementanalysis.com/ramseynote/
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Wed Jul-09-08 10:57 PM
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14. That's very interesting |
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As I read the note, I immediately got the sense that this was a message from a well educated person trying to sound a bit off, trying to hide their identity. The "foreign" thing jumped out as well. if you're representing Al-Quaeda, the Orange Order, or the ETA, you are probably going to make that pretty clear.
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Thu Jul-10-08 05:32 AM
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18. yes, too bad it was after her death, but I still blame the parents for exploiting their daughter |
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I have no doubt that her dancing around in heavy makeup and skimpy outfits in kiddie "beauty" contests led to this terrible murder.
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Thu Jul-10-08 06:11 AM
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That behavior alone was disgusting enough.
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Thu Jul-10-08 06:21 AM
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The whole idea of parading your 6 year old kid in makeup and skimpy outfits is too goddamned creepy for words. It's a KID, dammit. Let that kid be a KID instead of pretending she's an adult.
Yes, I do blame the Ramseys for exploiting that poor little girl.
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