Really? There are people who don't want to live in Kollyforniya?

[Oeditpus Rex]

I'm at a loss. :shrug:

[reyd reid reed]

1. You want the reasons

alphabetically?

[Oeditpus Rex]

3. Sure

And factually. :)

[petronius]

2. I'm not surprised - it's awful here! Everyone should stay away!

All we have is smog, fires, and earthquakes - and if one of those doesn't get you, a landslide will. Nobody come here! Never! Stay away! (But feel free to send money.)

:)

[XemaSab]

9. Mudslides and tsunamis

You forgot those! :o

[Oeditpus Rex]

10. And

we're covered in BEES!



:scared:

[XemaSab]

25. Man, my yard...

You can't even go out there and hang out all evening and drink beers... because of the BEES. :o

[Oeditpus Rex]

28. You got bees that steal your beer?

:shrug:

[XemaSab]

35. They're the kind of bees that eat your lunch meat

and build HUGH nests under your eaves!

Bees! :o

[petronius]

16. I probably blocked out the tsunamis because they're so frequent and terrifying

Still, I should have mentioned the incessant blistering heat...

:)

[TK421]

Call me crazy ( and that's the least offensive you can call me ) I've always wanted to visit

just to see what it's like...

Aside from what you posted, is there anything else I should look out for there?

[XemaSab]

11. Gangs

Tweekers, and Freepers.

Both. At the same time. :o

[LeftyMom]

4. I wish there were a lot more of them.

Especially when I'm stuck in traffic on the 99.

[quakerboy]

5. Ive been to LA

Once was definitely enough. So-Cal ain't got nothing I want.

[Oeditpus Rex]

8. That's LA

This place should really be three separate states — NorCal, SoCal and CenCal. They're nothing alike.



Well, except that San Jose and other bits of the South Bay are kind of a miniature LA in some respects, like traffic.

[LeftyMom]

13. Most Californians don't even like LA.

It's a completely different deal.

[quakerboy]

21. LA was bad

I have never had more breathing issues anywhere. Not London, not NYC, not anywhere. Plus hot as all hell.

But just for posterity, we stopped in Frisco as well. I wasn't impressed there either. The hotel treated us like crap, the weather was hot, and that was the night the fires started everywhere. We made it out just before it got smokey. Not before I had doubled the number of dealers I have seen blatantly selling on the sidewalk, though. Crazy. I don't know what it is, but every time I am in San Francisco, I see something new to my experience. Last time it was literally hundreds of Riot Cops. This time, legions of Dealers and sex workers.

Either way, I will never live in California again, if I have any say in the matter. Oregon is a good place for now. BC or Europe are sounding more and more appealing, though.

[Truth4Justice]

32. LA or NYC: people confuse the big city with the whole state. Wrong!

[Zuiderelle]

54. NYC is great while NY State sucks... LA and California are the opposite.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

58. nyc is far cooler than ny state

[Oeditpus Rex]

64. That depends on one's definition of 'cool,' doesn't it?

Me, I'd like to check out the Catskills or the Finger Lakes area.



NYC would have me for lunch. :scared:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

68. cooler =more liberal.

[Oeditpus Rex]

71. That's a large part of it, yeah

But big cities don't like me. :scared:

[RevolutionaryActs]

6. Personally I won't pass judgment on any place I haven't been to.

So I'll come visit then I'll tell you if I want to live there or not. :P

[Swede]

7. Absolutely no interest.

I'm not even interested in visiting there.

[XemaSab]

12. It's gross

You should stay home.

[Swede]

17. France,Germany and Scandanavia are my next destinations.

Nothing for me in Cali.

[LeftyMom]

15. It's expensive and it sucks. Nobody should even visit, let alone move here. Tell your friends. nt

[KitchenWitch]

14. Quite frankly, I don't want to live here...

But I happen to LOVE Minnesota.

[LeftyMom]

18. Minnesota's nice.

In the summer, at least.

But the weirdly friendly people creep me out. I'm from California, so I waste time trying to decide if they are just unbalanced or want money.

[KitchenWitch]

19. LOL

No, we are just friendly.

Minnesota is not for misanthropes, unless you are in the woods up north...

[Frosty1]

47. Hey I'm in the woods up north....

well maybe you have a point. I'm up here because I hate crowds of people.:shrug:

[Pierre.Suave]

43. What a Coincidence

me too!!!!!!!!!!

[Arugula Latte]

20. I grew up there, and visit the Bay Area frequently.

But, I have to say, it is too expensive. And too crowded. And I get sick of water shortages and brown air. And, I don't like the 'tude in the suburb I grew up in (kinda snotty ... and appearance is all). I love lots of things about Cali. (especially Berkeley and San Fran.), but I'm glad to be raising my kids in Oregon and living here.

[quakerboy]

23. YOU

You are one of the Apostate Californian flood who have fallen in a Horde upon the state of Oregon, clogging our roads and breeding with our children!

[Arugula Latte]

46. Heh heh heh

How are you liking the Californication? :D

[quakerboy]

62. Meh.

I grew up here, but to be fair I have to admit that I was born in California.

Actually, I've given this a fair bit of consideration over the years. Most of the best Oregonians I know are from California. Though, most of them were just born there through some unlucky twist of fate, But then happily raised elsewhere before moving to Oregon. Colorado or Canada for preference.

[flvegan]

22. Too expensive.

Not that I don't *want* to, but it's a monetary call. Had I my druthers, I'd probably make a bid at living in CA.

[LeftyMom]

29. Depending on the area, it's not bad.

Housing's kinda high, but not nearly what it was at the dizzying height of its' stupidity. LA and the bay area are still insane, but you'd hate them anyhow. Wages are pretty darn good. Food is crazy cheap, since so much of it is grown here. Cars last longer, because the weather doesn't tear them up. Utilities can be high or really low, depending on whether the area's on a municipal or private utility.

Yeah, a lot of places are cheaper, but they tend to suck. A friend of mine was renting a 3 br house on a big lot in Oklahoma for $250/mo, but she had to live there. :scared:

[Fire Walk With Me]

31. Anywhere but LA. Don't get suckered into "living" in LA.

[Chan790]

24. Me.

No interest whatsoever. I've been west of the Mississippi once and never want to go again; I'm just an east-coast city-boy.

[XemaSab]

26. Good call.

:thumbsup:

[Writer]

27. No, but if you all keep sending your peeps east to Colorado, I'm going to burn the state down.

There then will be a large, charred, square-shaped area in the middle of the continental US. Yay, me!

[Common Sense Party]

30. You couldn't pay me enough to live there.

Visiting raises my blood pressure.

[puerco-bellies]

33. I love Los Angeles.

I'm of Chiricahua Apache stock and my family migrated to Los Angeles over a century ago from Eastern Arizona, and Western New Mexico. My father's family settled around a geological feature that still bares our surname. Tomorrow morning Alison and I will decide if we want to kayak, surf, or snorkel. We will drive about 5-15 minutes and be where we want. With in an hour and half travel time we can be in desert, alpine, ocean, or island surroundings. There is nothing under the sun that is not obtainable a short distance from our door. The weather is nice, since we live near the ocean it stays temperate, and the smog is minimal due to the western trending winds. If you like the outdoors, and the benefits of being in a major city this is a great place to be.

My favorite memory is wonderful week consisting of warm nights, the palmtrees gently swaying, the Downtown L.A. skyline a short distance away, center framed by my old street cresting a small hill, and the HaleBopp comet capping the scene. I wish I had taken a picture. Sublime, surreal, Los Angeles.

[XemaSab]

36. No, California SUCKS!

This is all LIES! :o

[puerco-bellies]

37. Umm, yeah, that's the ticket.

Flee, don't look back, and for god's sake take a transplant with you!!!

[grasswire]

44. Don't come north

We have far too many of you who have fled your state.

[TieDyedDad]

34. Id love to live there

my wife is out there on business all the time. Im not sure which I like better though. San Fran or San Diego. I spent some time in LA in the 90's. That was pretty cool.

[sasquatch]

38. Water is the only reason why I don't live out there

That and I love Ohio too much.

[XemaSab]

39. I've killed a man for his Dasani

:o

[Tektonik]

40. No one could possibly hate all of CA

There's something here for everyone.

[LeftyMom]

41. Oh no, it's just like what the saw on some bad tv show, and they can and do hate all of it.

Which is just as well, I heard we're officially full and the CHP is turning people back at the agricultural inspection station on the 80.

[Tektonik]

52. The more people we can get out of the Bay Area and LA the better

The only thing I truly hate about LA is when I hit the 405 & 101 interchange at like 10PM on a weekday and there's still traffic on it :crazy:

[Fox Mulder]

42. I don't want to.

Too many people. And the air quality sucks.

[Tektonik]

53. Good example of wrongly using LA as an example of the entirety of CA

:eyes:

[kineneb]

59. I have lived here all my life, and have been to LA exactly twice

there is more to CA than just the big cities...there vast areas that are completely uninhabited and absolutely gorgeous.

[hobbit709]

45. Land of Shake and Bake

I won't live in places where the ground moves or the mountains smoke. I've had my experiences with both.

[NV Whino]

48. We have bad wine, too.

You shouldn't move here. You'll hate it. I mean perfect, low humidity temps will drive you to drink. And you don't want to drink our wine. Really.

[bridgit]

55. Oh I know, riding along the delta levees through tract after tract teeming with a cornicopia...

of produce beneath rain birds spritzing the air with water & rainbows on a breezy blue sky day floating with puffy white clouds sucks! It just sucks!!!! So, you know, pass the word :)

[Taverner]

49. They hate us for our freedom!

[Nikia]

50. Some of my adult ESL students were residents of CA

They say that they made less money there and had to pay a lot more money for necessities. Here in WI, they can afford to rent or even buy a three bedroom house for just them and their immediate family. They say that would have been impossible for them in CA.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

51. Imagine that

:rofl:

1. that there ARE people that don't want to live in California :wow:

and

2. that Oedi is at a loss :shrug:

:D

:hi:

[Tikki]

56. OK..here's the truth....

The beautiful Pacific Coastline around Monterey CA is
really just an art piece by Christo from the 1960's.





Tikki

[bridgit]

60. heh-heh, good one...

Ah, the green season :thumbsup:

[kineneb]

57. sorry guys, its here (NorCal) or Europe (Cal native)

not interested in any place in between

[WritingIsMyReligion]

61. I've only been to the LA area--Anaheim, Garden Grove, etc.

Whatever else it was, it was not exactly great, but then again, I get the feeling that whole smoggy, over-trafficked, excessively cemented area isn't California putting its best foot forward.

Oh--I forgot to say that I spent several hours in the San Fran airport. That, at least, had pretty scenery.

I'm really in no position to pass judgment on the state. :D

[Oeditpus Rex]

63. You are wise beyond your years

But, pretty scenery at SFO? Well, maybe looking across the bay at the Oakland Hills, if it's an unusually clear day... :shrug:

[Mutley]

65. Only because it's too far from my family.

From what I've seen and heard, most of it is nice. :)

[Oeditpus Rex]

66. Eh

It ain't got nothin' on Downey Oshun. :)

[Mutley]

67. Downey Oshun is lame.

Too many tourons. :D

[Oeditpus Rex]

70. Dessert...?

:shrug:

[Mutley]

73. Hehe, no.

Tourist and moron put together.

[Oeditpus Rex]

75. Yeah, I employed Teh Google

to enlighten me as to this bit o' Newspeak.



Tour·on <tour-on> - noun

1. a moron who is traveling, esp. for the pleasure of annoying everyone else within sight or sound.

2. in moron-class accommodations, or by moron-class conveyance: to travel touron.


How to Distinguish Tourons from Tourists

[Mutley]

76. I should write one of those specific for Downey Oshun.

:D

[Oeditpus Rex]

77. Do you perchance mean 'specific to'

or "specifically for"?



:P









:hide:

[Mutley]

78. I mean whatever is the worst grammar-wise.

:P

[Oeditpus Rex]

80. Ah

Well, that would have "hon" in it somewhere.

:P

[Mutley]

82. Write that up fer Bawlmer, hon!

[Oeditpus Rex]

83. Make a copy for dem O's

[EFerrari]

69. Really? More California for me.

There's everything here. Cities, parklands, surfing, skiing, beautiful farmland. Hippies and holistic spas, baseball and bicycling. Wineries and history. Just visiting the coastal parks would take years.

The one thing I did right was to be born here. :toast:

[Oeditpus Rex]

72. Planned it that way, did'ja?

:D

[GOPisEvil]

74. There are parts of CA in which I would be happy to live.

However, I'd have to sell my house and go back to renting. Plus I'd have to at least double my income just to maintain a similar standard of living. Going from owning back to renting is a hard thing though. I'd do it for the right situation though.

[hippywife]

79. Only if they'll

let me live in Yosemite. :D

[Oeditpus Rex]

81. If you were a park ranger...