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Tue Dec-23-08 07:18 PM
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I'd like to be "America's Pastor". Suggest ways I might accomplish this. |
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Cuz what I've been doin' so far has gained me neither fame nor fortune. I'm open to suggestions.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:20 PM
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1. Cobble some simple feel good bullshit together into a book. |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:21 PM
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2. Adding to my to-do list! |
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Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 07:21 PM by mycritters2
bullshit book
teevee and lots of it
Thanks! :hi:
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:24 PM
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3. Be "controversial" - Find a minority group to bash. |
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Rick Warren hates the gays, and the athiests. Pat Robertson hates anybody that isn't white and from the United States. You need your niche, and it doesn't really matter who it is, as long as there's just enough of them to get pissed off in return.
That notoriety sells books.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:28 PM
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8. Stupid me. I've been trying to befriend minorities, to minister to them. |
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Getting labeled "the gay church" certainly hasn't made us "mega" though.
Predictably, I'm doing it all wrong.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:25 PM
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4. Just keep preaching The Word |
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and keep leading people to do what is right.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:26 PM
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6. But, I wouldn't expect to be popular if you do this |
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no one really wants to be told to pick up their cross. They want an easy way.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:57 PM
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39. Wait. What? America's Pastor must be popular. |
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That's the whole point. I don't think you're paying attention.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:25 PM
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5. Read up of theologia crucis and theologia gloriae. Always side with theologia gloriae. |
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Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 07:34 PM by JVS
People eat that shit up.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:30 PM
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10. Oh man! I have a Lutheran colleague who can't say "theologiae gloriae" |
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without making this really cool spitting noise. I lead conversations in that direction just to get her to do that! :)
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:33 PM
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14. Theologian of glory is Luther-speak for "fucking shithead asslicking motherfucker dickwad". |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:34 PM
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15. So I gathered. It does sound better in Latin. :) nt |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:28 PM
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7. Convert to the Prosperity Theology |
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Tell people that if they are not rich, it is because they do not believe strong enough. Require your flock to tithe 15%.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:29 PM
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9. And tell them they can knock 1% off their tithe |
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for every additional sheep they sucker into your flock. :P
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:30 PM
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:32 PM
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12. 1% per sucker, up to 5. Gotta have everyone at least giving 10% |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:33 PM
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13. So, part of the problem may be my poor math skills. nt |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:36 PM
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16. I would be happy to help you with the math parts of your ministry! |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:37 PM
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18. When I need to put together my mega-staff, you'll be my business manager! |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:39 PM
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20. If you're going to get famous, you have to keep the books on people like Tom DeLay or the Mormons. |
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"I see you made 86,000 last year, but you only donated 5K and I don't see any donations by you to any major political cause. As a church we believe that generosity is an important part faith. Can I put you down for another 5K to the church and $1500 to my buddy's congressional campaign? Keeping in mind that Deacon Smith is retiring and moving to Arizona and I've heard you feel you're called to a leadership position..."
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:40 PM
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23. This America's Pastor-ing is hard work. |
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These guys really earn their pay!
So, I need to become more detail-oriented. Check!
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:51 PM
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31. But the good news is it's really lucrative. |
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You'll have a vacation house in a ski community, one on the beach, a trophy spouse and a Bentley in no time.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:52 PM
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32. Well, hard work does pay off. That's the American Way! nt |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:37 PM
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17. Well, you could stop fucking your wife and start fucking other people's wives. |
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Or hookers. Or men. And then you could cry about it while you pray for forgiveness on live tv. That always seems to work.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:38 PM
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19. That's how you retire |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:39 PM
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22. Right, but there's still the name recognition in the meantime. |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:39 PM
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21. I should probably avoid fucking my wife. America's Pastor can't possibly be lesbian. |
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But you raise an interesting point. Is America ready for a bi woman America's Pastor? I think AC360 should do a story about this.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:46 PM
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24. Oh yes, America is totally ready. You just lay it out there for them. |
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I'm sure they'll understand. If not, you're probably cool in some obscure European country, that isn't even on the map yet. But the point is, that there IS a place for you. America's Pastor is a lofty goal. Maybe you should start with a non-superpower. Which, of course, is everywhere else.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:49 PM
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27. So, I should start by becoming Iceland's Pastor, and move up from there? |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:46 PM
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25. Well, it's a tragedy that Fred Rogers is no longer around. Why not |
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pick up where he left off? If not America's pastor, you could at least have a whole neighborhood. :hug:
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:54 PM
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35. Get thee behind me, GreenPartyVoter! |
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Why do you want to kill my dream?! :cry:
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:56 PM
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But you gotta admit, to be on a par with Fred Rogers is to qualify for sainthood, at least |
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amongst preschoolers. And anyone else who lives in make-believe. :)
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:58 PM
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41. Sainthood. Meh. It's power and prestige I'm talking about! nt |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:59 PM
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42. Well, that's easy. Sell out. |
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:00 PM
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44. See, that's what I'm talkin' about! nt |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:47 PM
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:50 PM
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30. Solo, or should I call Billy Mays? nt |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:54 PM
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36. Get Ron Popeil too and you'll have a trinity. |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:49 PM
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28. How many people have you bilked out of |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:50 PM
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29. None yet. I really have not been applying myself, it seems. nt |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:54 PM
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33. re-interpret and re-write the bible |
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You can't be America's Pastor or anybody's pastor if you're not a vessel for the Word of God.
And then, of course, after you've re-written it, complete with new illustrations, you can sell it to your sheeple.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:54 PM
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34. Speak to our basest, most materialistic, narcissistic, ignorant, and ego-centric reptilian brain |
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Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 07:55 PM by Rabrrrrrr
with a flag-wrapped easy-to-digest harmless nationalistic triumphalist Jesus who never asks for money or self-sacrifice, but only promises us riches and glory to the people that we force to sacrifice for us.
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:55 PM
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37. So, negative mimesis and lots of it, huh? Can do! nt |
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Tue Dec-23-08 07:56 PM
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:00 PM
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43. Do you own a mansion? Can you fill a stadium? Does your wife wear lots of makeup? |
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Are you from the south? Do they fall over when you push on their foreheads while 'healing' them? Is there a lot of crying and waving of the hands? Do people in your company have that 'suckered' look? Do you use an inordinate amount of hair spray? Are you on tv at all kinds of strange hours? If yes to any three of these, and I think you're on your way.
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:03 PM
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45. Wow. It's pretty much "no" to all of these. I do have a pretty big house, |
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but not a mansion. I watch TV at all hours. Other than that, well, it looks like I have a lot of work to do.
Thanks, Bummer Bob.
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:10 PM
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47. Sorry, I used to train America's Pastors. I know what makes or breaks them. |
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It's a lot like boot camp. They either had the stuff or they didn't. Let me ask though, can you add extra syllables to common words? Example, "....and you will be say-eved-duh" (Saved). If you can, I think I can still work with you. Be prepared for some 'sacrifice' though. No pun intended.
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:11 PM
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48. You trained America's Pastors? When and where? |
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I think I can get the extra syllable thing down.
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:22 PM
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52. It was an undisclosed location, I believe in North Carolina. Early 60's. |
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Those were the days. Sent one 'BG' out there. He seemed to do well. Although I don't like his boy much these days. Uh, let's see ... who else. Oh, I had a lot of regional people that made it pretty big, but Billy was probably my best student. He had the 'look'. It was those eyes. Plus, he bought into the gig pretty well. He even had me convinced a time or two. Oh yes, I'll always miss Billy.
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:25 PM
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53. I'm thinkin' mistake #1 for me may have been attending a mainline seminary. |
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Or maybe even belonging to a mainline church. I need to work on my "condemnin' libruls" skills. And I'm pretty sure I don't have "the look".
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:32 PM
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55. You'll be fine. Start local, go regional, with an eye on national. Everything will be cool. |
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:34 PM
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56. I seem to be doin' local okay. So, step 1 accomplished. |
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:07 PM
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46. Have you ever read a 1960s book called "How to Become a Bishop without Being Religious"? |
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I'm sure it's out of print, but it's a great take-off on church politics.
One road to popularity listed in the book is never to program hymns that the congregation doesn't know, unless they're like pop tunes. Three out of four hymns should be heavy on the words "I" and "me."
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:13 PM
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49. My congregation has been asking me to do the same thing--only hymns they know. |
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They're wiser than I give 'em credit for. The "I" and "me" thing is new, though. I'll give it a whirl! Thanks!
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:14 PM
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50. Amazing Grace is so popular for a reason |
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:16 PM
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51. "In the Garden" is another one of those. |
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My people love it. Me? :puke:
One of my organists pointed out that "In the Garden" is a waltz, so it even has this "dancing with Jesus" feel to it, that probably hits people at a subconscious level.
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:29 PM
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54. Spreading fear and hate seems to be key... |
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Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 08:31 PM by Juniperx
In building your bank account.
Name yourself Pastor Dollar... oh, wait. It's been done.
SEND ME YOUR MONEY!
Welcome to the Church of Suicidal We'll have a sermon and a wonderful recital But before we go on there's something I must mention An important message I must bring to your attention I was in meditation and prayer last night I was awakened by a shining bright light Overhead a glorious spirit, he gave me a message and you all need to hear it "Send me your money," that's what he said He said to "Send me your money" Now if you can only send a dollar or two There ain't a hell of a lot I can do for you But if you want to see heaven's door Make out a check for five hundred or more "Send me your money," do you hear what I said? "Send me your money"
Now give me some bass, um yea that's how he likes it Now give me some silence, for all you sinners Now give me some bass, yea that was funky Now take them on home Brother Clark, send me your money Here comes another con hiding behind a collar His only god is the almighty dollar He ain't no prophet, he ain't healer He's just a two bit goddamn money stealer Send me your money Send it, you got to send it Send me your money You hear what I'm saying? Send it, send it Send me your money How much you give is your own choice But to me it is the difference between a Porsche and a Rolls Royce I want you to make it hurt when you dig into your pocket Cause it makes me feel so good to watch my profits rocket Send me your money Now dig in deep, dig real deep into your pocket I want you to make it hurt! We'll take cash, we'll take checks We'll take credit cards, we'll take jewelry We'll take your momma's dentures if they got gold in them So whose gonna be the next king of the fakers Whose gonna take the place of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker? See my momma, she didn't raise no fool Couse you can't put a price on a miracle Amen
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:35 PM
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57. Creflo Dollar! I love that name!! So brilliantly fitting! nt |
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:38 PM
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58. Funny how God's always broke... |
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And is always having his people ask for more money. If I were God, I'd create my own money printing press. Shoot. God must be wasting a lot of good tricks.
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:39 PM
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59. After all, that's how the federal government does it. |
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God needs to start taking notes!
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:49 PM
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61. I'll be so freaking disappointed... |
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If in the end we learn that the Fed really was God afterall... ugh.
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Tue Dec-23-08 08:40 PM
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60. Come up with a snappy book title |
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like The Purpose-Driven Life.
William S. Burroughs said this about writing self-help books: "Your Erroneous Zones. I really take my hat off to that title. It hits the reader right where he lives. And gooses him right up to the cash register...Get the title first, then write the book."
Then sell a zillion copies to people who think you know something they don't, then build an empire, and become America's Pastor. Simple!
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Tue Dec-23-08 09:06 PM
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62. I wish you were America's Pastor, too. |
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Unfortunately, you are too liberal. Don't ever change. :hug: Merry Christmas! :toast:
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Tue Dec-23-08 09:07 PM
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63. Live your life as an example all would want to follow. |
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Well, that hasn't found millions heading to Calcutta to mimic St. Theresa...
Just be what you are, which is exactly enough.
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The more pitiful, the better. Next, call in the networks to "document" your life with your orphans. Sell to the highest bidder. Call it all a ministry and claim tax exempt status. Make sure the young 'uns are always looking happy and grateful on camera. Roll around naked in all the cash you'll be raking in from the show, watched religously (pun intended) by bleeding heart schmucks who can't get enough emotional porn. Laugh all the way to the bank.
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