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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:18 PM
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I'd like to be "America's Pastor". Suggest ways I might accomplish this.
Cuz what I've been doin' so far has gained me neither fame nor fortune. I'm open to suggestions.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:20 PM
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1. Cobble some simple feel good bullshit together into a book.
Go on teevee a lot.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:21 PM
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2. Adding to my to-do list!
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 07:21 PM by mycritters2
bullshit book

teevee and lots of it


Thanks! :hi:
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:24 PM
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3. Be "controversial" - Find a minority group to bash.
Rick Warren hates the gays, and the athiests. Pat Robertson hates anybody that isn't white and from the United States. You need your niche, and it doesn't really matter who it is, as long as there's just enough of them to get pissed off in return.

That notoriety sells books.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:28 PM
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8. Stupid me. I've been trying to befriend minorities, to minister to them.
Getting labeled "the gay church" certainly hasn't made us "mega" though.

Predictably, I'm doing it all wrong.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:25 PM
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4. Just keep preaching The Word
and keep leading people to do what is right.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:26 PM
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6. But, I wouldn't expect to be popular if you do this
no one really wants to be told to pick up their cross. They want an easy way.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:57 PM
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39. Wait. What? America's Pastor must be popular.
That's the whole point. I don't think you're paying attention.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:25 PM
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5. Read up of theologia crucis and theologia gloriae. Always side with theologia gloriae.
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 07:34 PM by JVS
People eat that shit up.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:30 PM
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10. Oh man! I have a Lutheran colleague who can't say "theologiae gloriae"
without making this really cool spitting noise. I lead conversations in that direction just to get her to do that! :)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:33 PM
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14. Theologian of glory is Luther-speak for "fucking shithead asslicking motherfucker dickwad".
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:34 PM
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15. So I gathered. It does sound better in Latin. :) nt
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:28 PM
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7. Convert to the Prosperity Theology
Tell people that if they are not rich, it is because they do not believe strong enough. Require your flock to tithe 15%.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:29 PM
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9. And tell them they can knock 1% off their tithe
for every additional sheep they sucker into your flock. :P
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:30 PM
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11. Words to live by. nt
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:32 PM
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12. 1% per sucker, up to 5. Gotta have everyone at least giving 10%
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:33 PM
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13. So, part of the problem may be my poor math skills. nt
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:36 PM
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16. I would be happy to help you with the math parts of your ministry!
:patriot:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:37 PM
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18. When I need to put together my mega-staff, you'll be my business manager!
Congrats!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:39 PM
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20. If you're going to get famous, you have to keep the books on people like Tom DeLay or the Mormons.
"I see you made 86,000 last year, but you only donated 5K and I don't see any donations by you to any major political cause. As a church we believe that generosity is an important part faith. Can I put you down for another 5K to the church and $1500 to my buddy's congressional campaign? Keeping in mind that Deacon Smith is retiring and moving to Arizona and I've heard you feel you're called to a leadership position..."
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:40 PM
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23. This America's Pastor-ing is hard work.
These guys really earn their pay!

So, I need to become more detail-oriented. Check!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:51 PM
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31. But the good news is it's really lucrative.
You'll have a vacation house in a ski community, one on the beach, a trophy spouse and a Bentley in no time.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:52 PM
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32. Well, hard work does pay off. That's the American Way! nt
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:37 PM
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17. Well, you could stop fucking your wife and start fucking other people's wives.
Or hookers. Or men. And then you could cry about it while you pray for forgiveness on live tv. That always seems to work.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:38 PM
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19. That's how you retire
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:39 PM
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22. Right, but there's still the name recognition in the meantime.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:39 PM
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21. I should probably avoid fucking my wife. America's Pastor can't possibly be lesbian.
But you raise an interesting point. Is America ready for a bi woman America's Pastor? I think AC360 should do a story about this.
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:46 PM
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24. Oh yes, America is totally ready. You just lay it out there for them.
I'm sure they'll understand. If not, you're probably cool in some obscure European country, that isn't even on the map yet. But the point is, that there IS a place for you. America's Pastor is a lofty goal. Maybe you should start with a non-superpower. Which, of course, is everywhere else.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:49 PM
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27. So, I should start by becoming Iceland's Pastor, and move up from there?
Good thinking! Thanks!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:46 PM
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25. Well, it's a tragedy that Fred Rogers is no longer around. Why not
pick up where he left off? If not America's pastor, you could at least have a whole neighborhood. :hug:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:54 PM
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35. Get thee behind me, GreenPartyVoter!
Why do you want to kill my dream?! :cry:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:56 PM
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But you gotta admit, to be on a par with Fred Rogers is to qualify for sainthood, at least
amongst preschoolers. And anyone else who lives in make-believe. :)
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:58 PM
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41. Sainthood. Meh. It's power and prestige I'm talking about! nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:59 PM
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42. Well, that's easy. Sell out.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:00 PM
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44. See, that's what I'm talkin' about! nt
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:47 PM
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26. Do an infomercial.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:50 PM
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30. Solo, or should I call Billy Mays? nt
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:54 PM
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36. Get Ron Popeil too and you'll have a trinity.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:49 PM
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28. How many people have you bilked out of
money? That helps...
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:50 PM
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29. None yet. I really have not been applying myself, it seems. nt
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:54 PM
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33. re-interpret and re-write the bible
You can't be America's Pastor or anybody's pastor if you're not a vessel for the Word of God.

And then, of course, after you've re-written it, complete with new illustrations, you can sell it to your sheeple.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:54 PM
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34. Speak to our basest, most materialistic, narcissistic, ignorant, and ego-centric reptilian brain
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 07:55 PM by Rabrrrrrr
with a flag-wrapped easy-to-digest harmless nationalistic triumphalist Jesus who never asks for money or self-sacrifice, but only promises us riches and glory to the people that we force to sacrifice for us.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:55 PM
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37. So, negative mimesis and lots of it, huh? Can do! nt
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:56 PM
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38. Lick a toad
:D
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 07:57 PM
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40. LOL!! nt
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:00 PM
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43. Do you own a mansion? Can you fill a stadium? Does your wife wear lots of makeup?
Are you from the south? Do they fall over when you push on their foreheads while 'healing' them? Is there a lot of crying and waving of the hands? Do people in your company have that 'suckered' look? Do you use an inordinate amount of hair spray? Are you on tv at all kinds of strange hours? If yes to any three of these, and I think you're on your way.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:03 PM
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45. Wow. It's pretty much "no" to all of these. I do have a pretty big house,
but not a mansion. I watch TV at all hours. Other than that, well, it looks like I have a lot of work to do.

Thanks, Bummer Bob.
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:10 PM
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47. Sorry, I used to train America's Pastors. I know what makes or breaks them.
It's a lot like boot camp. They either had the stuff or they didn't. Let me ask though, can you add extra syllables to common words? Example, "....and you will be say-eved-duh" (Saved). If you can, I think I can still work with you. Be prepared for some 'sacrifice' though. No pun intended.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:11 PM
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48. You trained America's Pastors? When and where?
I think I can get the extra syllable thing down.
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:22 PM
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52. It was an undisclosed location, I believe in North Carolina. Early 60's.
Those were the days. Sent one 'BG' out there. He seemed to do well. Although I don't like his boy much these days. Uh, let's see ... who else. Oh, I had a lot of regional people that made it pretty big, but Billy was probably my best student. He had the 'look'. It was those eyes. Plus, he bought into the gig pretty well. He even had me convinced a time or two. Oh yes, I'll always miss Billy.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:25 PM
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53. I'm thinkin' mistake #1 for me may have been attending a mainline seminary.
Or maybe even belonging to a mainline church. I need to work on my "condemnin' libruls" skills. And I'm pretty sure I don't have "the look".
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:32 PM
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55. You'll be fine. Start local, go regional, with an eye on national. Everything will be cool.
Trust me.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:34 PM
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56. I seem to be doin' local okay. So, step 1 accomplished.
Thanks!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:07 PM
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46. Have you ever read a 1960s book called "How to Become a Bishop without Being Religious"?
I'm sure it's out of print, but it's a great take-off on church politics.

One road to popularity listed in the book is never to program hymns that the congregation doesn't know, unless they're like pop tunes. Three out of four hymns should be heavy on the words "I" and "me."
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:13 PM
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49. My congregation has been asking me to do the same thing--only hymns they know.
They're wiser than I give 'em credit for. The "I" and "me" thing is new, though. I'll give it a whirl! Thanks!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:14 PM
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50. Amazing Grace is so popular for a reason
:evilgrin:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:16 PM
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51. "In the Garden" is another one of those.
My people love it. Me? :puke:

One of my organists pointed out that "In the Garden" is a waltz, so it even has this "dancing with Jesus" feel to it, that probably hits people at a subconscious level.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:29 PM
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54. Spreading fear and hate seems to be key...
Edited on Tue Dec-23-08 08:31 PM by Juniperx
In building your bank account.

Name yourself Pastor Dollar... oh, wait. It's been done.

SEND ME YOUR MONEY!

Welcome to the Church of Suicidal
We'll have a sermon and a wonderful recital
But before we go on there's something I must mention
An important message I must bring to your attention
I was in meditation and prayer last night
I was awakened by a shining bright light
Overhead a glorious spirit, he gave me a message and you all
need to hear it
"Send me your money," that's what he said
He said to "Send me your money"
Now if you can only send a dollar or two
There ain't a hell of a lot I can do for you
But if you want to see heaven's door
Make out a check for five hundred or more
"Send me your money," do you hear what I said?
"Send me your money"

Now give me some bass, um yea that's how he likes it
Now give me some silence, for all you sinners
Now give me some bass, yea that was funky
Now take them on home Brother Clark, send me your money
Here comes another con hiding behind a collar
His only god is the almighty dollar
He ain't no prophet, he ain't healer
He's just a two bit goddamn money stealer
Send me your money
Send it, you got to send it
Send me your money
You hear what I'm saying?
Send it, send it
Send me your money
How much you give is your own choice
But to me it is the difference between a Porsche and a Rolls Royce
I want you to make it hurt when you dig into your pocket
Cause it makes me feel so good to watch my profits rocket
Send me your money
Now dig in deep, dig real deep into your pocket
I want you to make it hurt!
We'll take cash, we'll take checks
We'll take credit cards, we'll take jewelry
We'll take your momma's dentures if they got gold in them
So whose gonna be the next king of the fakers
Whose gonna take the place of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker?
See my momma, she didn't raise no fool
Couse you can't put a price on a miracle
Amen

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:35 PM
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57. Creflo Dollar! I love that name!! So brilliantly fitting! nt
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:38 PM
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58. Funny how God's always broke...
And is always having his people ask for more money. If I were God, I'd create my own money printing press. Shoot. God must be wasting a lot of good tricks.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:39 PM
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59. After all, that's how the federal government does it.
God needs to start taking notes!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:49 PM
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61. I'll be so freaking disappointed...
If in the end we learn that the Fed really was God afterall... ugh.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 08:40 PM
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60. Come up with a snappy book title
like The Purpose-Driven Life.

William S. Burroughs said this about writing self-help books: "Your Erroneous Zones. I really take my hat off to that title. It hits the reader right where he lives. And gooses him right up to the cash register...Get the title first, then write the book."

Then sell a zillion copies to people who think you know something they don't, then build an empire, and become America's Pastor. Simple!
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:06 PM
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62. I wish you were America's Pastor, too.
Unfortunately, you are too liberal. Don't ever change. :hug: Merry Christmas! :toast:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:07 PM
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63. Live your life as an example all would want to follow.
Well, that hasn't found millions heading to Calcutta to mimic St. Theresa...

Just be what you are, which is exactly enough.
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BleedingHeartRN Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-08 09:19 PM
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64. Adopt 27 orphans
The more pitiful, the better. Next, call in the networks to "document" your life with your orphans. Sell to the highest bidder. Call it all a ministry and claim tax exempt status. Make sure the young 'uns are always looking happy and grateful on camera. Roll around naked in all the cash you'll be raking in from the show, watched religously (pun intended) by bleeding heart schmucks who can't get enough emotional porn. Laugh all the way to the bank.
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