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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 04:54 PM
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Sometimes I wished I still smoked
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 04:55 PM by Taverner
Just so I could blow smoke in the faces of all the Anti-Smoking NAZIs

Jeez - this BS ( and yes, it is pure BS ) about 3rd and 4th hand smoke...and now this anger at Obama for smoking



Shrill hysterics from the Nanny Staters if there ever was...
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NickTheGreek Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:00 PM
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1. Salad Toss
Their logic suggests that walking into a smelly public restroom is the equivalent of licking a stranger's dirty ass.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:05 PM
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24. It has its similarities
Do you know what smell is? You are inhaling particulate matter. What sort of particulate matter smells like poop?
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:04 PM
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2. Not quite the same
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:15 PM
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5. You are talking second hand smoke
Which is both harmless (if the smoker is smoking outside) or harmful (the smoker is inside, unless there is wind-turbine level ventilation)

Now they came up with Third Hand smoke, the idea that if you smoke, and you shake someone's hand, they are now as good as dead because you've exposed them to every chemical in the world from said handshake. I think its histrionics.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:47 PM
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9. It's disgusting. It is absolutely disgusting to have to walk
through a cloud of that shit to enter or leave a store. Repulsive is more like it.

I don't give a rat's ass if people smoke. Just don't fucking do it near me. It's repulsive.

NYC has the right idea. The doormen of the nicer hotels insist that smokers stand 10-20 feet away from the entrances so that people don't have to deal with it.

I made a conscious decision not to smoke. Why should I have to breathe that shit? It's selfish and disgusting.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:54 PM
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15. Don't breathe it
The closer you are to it, the more it affects you

In a room, you should leave if the person starts smoking

OUtside, just avoid the smoke and you'll be safe

But the idea that someone visiting your house has created a biohazzard by just existing in your home is nonsense.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 06:08 PM
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18. By walking into a store, I should quit breathing? Are you serious?
And I don't let people smoke in my house because, again, it's disgusting.

Some smokers are remarkably inconsiderate. They light up before they've even reached the exit of the store, or they block the door smoking so you have to weave and bob to avoid it.

Why should I have to go through that because of their disgusting habit? Smoke all you want, just not around me.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 06:09 PM
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20. Hey - I'm all for banning smoking inside
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 06:09 PM by Taverner
But outside, the car exhaust is more dangerous than the smoker
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 06:11 PM
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22. And the bulk of smokers do both.
How many times have you sat behind someone at a stop light puffing away on a nice day and had to put your windows up?

It's foul.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:15 PM
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27. Well just ban indoor smoking
Outdoors you are, in fact, infringing on another's liberty.

Indoors, we are talking about a collective liberty (the liberty to not be exposed to toxic chemicals)

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:07 PM
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3. So start rubbing more quickly.
:shrug:
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:09 PM
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4. Next thing ya know, he'll be constantly drunk and snorting coke.
No problem with that, huh?
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:31 PM
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6. What's this about 3rd and 4th hand smoke? I missed something here
I'm a smoker ( I cut down...and would love to quit ) but what the fuck is this?
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:36 PM
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7. You see a movie. Someone in the movie smokes
Congrats! You now have emphysema.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:51 PM
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12. no-fucking-way
out of control....this has gotten completely out of control

Where are there theaters that allow smoking nowadays? I gotta move there!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:42 PM
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8. 3rd hand smoke is someone who smokes having it on their skin
And as a result, they are a walking chemical bomb.

You shake their hands - you have emphysema

Or something like that

4th hand smoke is people smoking on TV or in the movies

Some folks have nothing better to do

If you want to quit, use Nicotine gum, then the patch, and stay on the patch as long as you have to. I was on it 3 years.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:48 PM
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10. I have a friend who reeks from cigarette smoke
When she is in my house, the smell lingers for hours.

IT IS DISGUSTING.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:52 PM
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13. I'm sure it is
But it is not toxic.

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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 06:09 PM
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19. Never said it was. Don't put words in my mouth.
I said it was disgusting. WHich it is.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 06:10 PM
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21. Understood. I'm just arguing the toxicity
And the toxicity is the only reason to ban something

Otherwise - should we have anti-farting laws?
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 06:12 PM
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23. Second hand smoke is a recognized danger.
It's been reviewed in the journals for decades. It's not just something someone made up.

Farting? Has anyone developed lung cancer from someone's farts?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:14 PM
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26. It is, but only indoors
Outdoors, its no more harmful than pollen

The smoking laws need to be adjusted to reflect this difference
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:55 PM
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16. "Some folks have nothing better to do"
that alone pretty much sums up my feelings about this retarded bullshit

I've never tried the patch, but have tried Nicorette...didn't seem to help. I know quite a few people who quit cold-turkey, and I think cutting down like I have would be a step towards that...

People who smoke on TV? That must be a joke....and I would like to take whoever is suggestion this fucking nonsense and choke the life out of them...people=fucking nutbags
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:47 PM
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35. ...or read the book How To Stop Smoking by Allen Carr.
I quit using absolutely nothing, and it was painless. And I was a hardcore junkie fiend smoker.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:49 PM
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11. I agree but
the anti-smoking campaign has been very effective and no matter how sanctimonious and annoying they are, it's a good thing
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 05:53 PM
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14. Oh I love the anti smoking campaign
And it worked here in CA

But it took a different approach in the 80's and 90's - the idea was not to browbeat the smoker but show them how much they have been had.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:18 PM
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29. true
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 06:08 PM
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17. But you can get the clap from a toilet seat. That's a fack.
And if you kiss someone with AIDS you're dead.
Within about a week.
That's a fack, Jack.
:scared:

There are hysterical people in our society who don't have enough to do.



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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:23 PM
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31. You can get pregnant from a toilet seat!
:rofl:

And just in case...:sarcasm:
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:41 PM
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32. You can even get the winning lotto numbers from a toilet seat
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:08 PM
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25. i wish i didn't smoke but i think due to the anti smoking campaigns i probably
smoke a little bit less than i used to. I smoke in my backyard, so far no complaints, i do not smoke in my house or in anyone else's house even if it's ok with them, and i don't smoke in my car.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:18 PM
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28. The rule at my house is
Weed inside, tobacco outside. Works out well for everyone.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:21 PM
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30. Get a vaporizor and you'll like weed inside even more
No combustion of the weed

Just oil vaporization

It is worth it, and you can cook the remnants

And - you are more efficient

30% of the THC gets destroyed when you fire it up - when you vaporize it all of that is still there
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:43 PM
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33. Already got one.
Edited on Sun Jan-25-09 07:43 PM by rcrush
Silver Surfer Vaporizer in my bedroom.

:fistbump:

Although I wasnt aware you could cook the 'ash' that was left over? Like for brownies?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 07:44 PM
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34. Enjoy my friend, enjoy!
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 09:21 PM
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36. I'm just guessing here:
it's a good thing that I still avoid the GD and GDP forums?

Do you think it will ever be safe to go back, or do I have to wait 8 years until we have an open primary and I can smoke people for their shit reasoning for voting for someone (which will make it fun for me)?
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 09:32 PM
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37. Sometimes I wish I still smoked
because it is fun and relaxing. I don't think these posters are really angry at Obama for smoking (if he is). They are just stirring stuff up. I'm just waiting for one of them to post the Freepers' Favorite Fotoshopped Foto.
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-09 11:55 PM
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38. Laura Bush smokes like a chimney.
For all we know she smoked when she was pregnant with the twins. I never heard anyone make a very big deal of it then.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:10 AM
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39. This thread needs some Loungification. Too serious.
So here is Peter Sellers and the Muppets on the subject of smoking (among other things)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVw96wzmZC8&NR=1
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:22 PM
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40. It's OK. I'll go burn one for each of us.
:smoke:

Bake
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