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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:07 PM
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A photo of mine is being used without permission.
It is on this page.
http://www.erey.50megs.com/landscape.html
Or go directly to the picture:


If you don't have broadband, it will tak a long time to load.
It is six rows down, second from the left. It is the fog tunnel. I took the picture as I was motorcycling down to Massawa. This was back around 1968

How would you react to this? I have mixed feelings. I don't mind someone using my pictures in this type of setting, but I wish they would have at least asked first.

BTW, the collection of images is very good.
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:11 PM
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1. I would sue...
But anything I photoghraph is for business, and there still protecte, so that would be taking money from me. In your case I would do some copyright law cheeking to see if the pic is still young enough to sue over!
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:14 PM
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2. Are you losing any money from this?
Edited on Sun Aug-10-03 11:26 PM by Ohio Dem
It doesn't seem like it. Consider it a compliment.

How did they get your pic, if you don't mind me asking?

On edit: It's a nice picture, by the way.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:15 PM
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3. Ask them to give you photographer's credit
or ask them to take it down. 50megs is a free site, so suing would likely be pointless. If they're making money off it somehow, though, go ahead.

Where did they get the picture? Did you have a copyright warning on that page?
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:26 PM
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4. A credit seems like the way to go.
Suing seems unnecessary to me. Have them give you credit, if that's the reason this bothers you. I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem with that. If they do have a problem with that, then they can just take it the hell off their site.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:37 PM
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6. They got it from my .Mac site
I guess the Kagnew pages may have directed them to the page. Kagnew was an Ehtiopian war horse that continued attacking the Italians even after his rider was killed. It was also the name of a now defunct USASA station.

http://homepage.mac.com/alfredo_tomato/PhotoAlbum1.html

http://asa.npoint.net/

I recognize some other pictures taken by a friend.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:32 PM
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5. really nice pic by the way.
Nicely done, and very effective. Moved me.

Nobody had said so, so I did.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:50 PM
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9. thanks all
I guess it was the fact I wasn't asked. I would have said yes to their request. I don't think it was malicious, and it wasn't done for profit. I should be flattered.


BTW, the image was from an old Extachrome slide.
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JewelDigger Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:39 PM
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7. Wow....beautiful pic
...and what a beautiful place! And you've BEEN there!

(Sorry that I can't help/don't know how to help with your problem - just wanted to send the well-deserved compliment your way though. :-) )
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listenup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:42 PM
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8. beautiful - did you put a watermark on it?
I think I would try to ask the person their thoughts and intentions about it, and if honorable, give them a word-lashing. If not, I don't know. What's yours is yours.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 12:02 AM
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11. I did embed some
steganography in a select few images, but not all.

I think I will contact the person and tell them they can use the images for non commercial uses, but please ask first.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:57 PM
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10. Happens all the time on the web...
but it's still wrong. It's your picture, and you own the copyright? Right?

You don't have to register a copyright, but you do have to prove it's yours. The copyright lasts for 75 years after your death, btw, so it's still in effect.

I would initially just write a note to them explaining that this is your picture, asking them where they found it (presumably they got it somewhere else on the web, eh?) and ask them to take it down or contact you for an arrangement for the rights to show the picture.

In theory, they owe you royalties, but there's nothing saying you're going to collect, so you might be happy with a credit. On a site like this, that's probably all you can expect, but you should get that.

Be prepared for them to possibly be of that small group that doesn't believe in ownership or copyright, and think everything's up for grabs. They're wrong, but stronger steps would have to be taken, and I don't know if you're up to lawyers and complaints to Federal agencies.

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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 10:10 AM
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12. NIce photo, 'Freddo.
Very atmospheric.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:06 AM
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13. Well, it's rude
but there's no sense in making a big deal over it, in my opinion. Ask the owner of the site to give you credit or to remove it. He/she probably won't have a problem with that. Of course, I've been known to give people too much credit for common decency, so I could be wrong.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:08 AM
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14. If it is used for non-commercial purposes
The most you can do is ask nicely to either credit you for it or take it down.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:09 AM
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15. How can you see who uses it?
Is there a program to see this or something
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:08 PM
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16. I have decided to just contact him/her and ask them to ask
permission to use any images. Not all images on the site are mine, but those images are credited.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 01:23 PM
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17. I would e-mail the website owner and ask him/her
Edited on Mon Aug-11-03 01:24 PM by SoCalDem
to show credit for the pic.. It is a beautiful picture..

I have a theory about pics on the web.. There are ways to disable the right clickability or to do as Corbis does..emboss their name across the picture..

There are many sites that require a password so that family members must have that password to see the picture..

I have seen pictures of little kids that disturbed me so much, that I emailed the parents and reminded them that pedophiles are looking for those kinds of pictures...

but when people openly post their pictures (as I have on my website) I do not mind if others use them.. (plus..I am too UN savvy to block it anyway :)..)

Copying pictures from a public accessible site on the web is not the same as sneaking in to a home and raiding the family picture album..

I would never represent a picture as mine that was not, and I try to credit the place I found it, but I do have to upload to my site in order to display it..
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