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Sat Mar-06-04 10:16 PM
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DU Old-School Goths/Industrialists check in here... |
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Okay, so in the last couple of hours, the following bands have ben cited by DUers:
Laibach Einsturzende Neubauten Nurse with Wound Dead Can Dance The Cure Sisters of Mercy Rammstein Birthday Party/Nick Cave Coil Foetus Current 93 Wire
So, who's here, and what do you listen to?
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:16 PM
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1. Do I need to check in? |
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I think I gave myself away.
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:21 PM
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2. Not a Goth, but saw most of those bands live in the '80s |
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:22 PM
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3. Nobody mentioned them...until now, RationalRose! |
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:43 PM
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16. in that one of my previous lives, I had a percentage of a dance club... |
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...lived and breathed the stuff for 3-4 years...
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:27 PM
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6. yup...then they became tones on tail then love and rockets. n/t |
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:01 PM
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23. I still have a tape of one of my mixes of Ball of Confusion... |
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:05 PM
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25. Industrial Dance - Johnny Rotten & Afrikaan Bambatta...Time Zone |
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did I step back into the late 80's...???
World Destruction (Time Zone)
Speak about destruction. (x3)
This is a world destruction, your life ain't nothing. The human race is becoming a disgrace. Countries are fighting with chemical warfare. Not giving a damn about the people who live. Nostradamus predicts the coming of the Antichrist. Hey, look out, the third world nations are on the rise. The Democratic-Communist Relationship, won't stand in the way of the Islamic force. The CIA is looking for you. The KGB is smarter than you think. Brainwash mentalities to control the system. Using TV and movies - religions of course. Yes, the world is headed for destruction. Is it a nuclear war? What are you asking for?
This is a world destruction. Your life ain't nothing. The human race is becoming a disgrace. The rich get richer. The poor are getting poorer. Fascist, chauvinistic government fools. People, Moslems, Christians and Hindus. Are in a time zone just searching for the truth. Who are you to think you're a superior race? Facing forth your everlasting doom. We are Time Zone. We've come to drop a bomb on you. World destruction, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom!
This is the world destruction, your life ain't nothing. The human race is becoming a disgrace. Nationalities are fighting with each other. Why is this? Because the system tells you. Putting people in faceless categories. Knowledge isn't what it used to be. Military tactics to control a nation. Who wants to be a president or king? Me! Mother Nature is gonna work against you. Nothing in your power that you can do. Yes, the world is headed for destruction. You and I know it, cause the Bible tells you. If we don't start to look for a better life, the world will be destroyed in a time zone!
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:37 PM
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:23 PM
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Sun Mar-07-04 01:45 AM
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52. Tom of March Violets is now a friend of mine living in this... |
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weird little town in Georgia. He is still making great music.
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:26 PM
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5. i have a thing for early siouxsie and the banshees |
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disco siouxsie (ie peek-a-boo) is ok...but her first few do it for me. I have her eyes tattooed on the back of my lower neck over the big bat tattoo on my upper back...
I like skinny puppy, KMFDM, ministry (for industrial) and most all you named on your list except the Cure.
just taking a break from the remake of "texas chainsaw massacre". I will be back later.
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:28 PM
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:31 PM
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(I think they count...:shrug:)
The aforementioned Bauhaus...The Damned,....ummm...Mission UK, KLF, Future Sound of London...
I can't (at the mo') think of any more that haven't been mentioned without steering the topic towards electro/techno...
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:33 PM
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Edited on Sat Mar-06-04 10:33 PM by khephra
The Electric Hellfire Club
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:34 PM
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10. Well, If you're talking industrial - |
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Edited on Sat Mar-06-04 10:38 PM by nu_duer
I don't see how Ministry couldn't be on the list.
And my gut says Sonic Youth belongs here somewhere as well.
Aphex Twins too.
Maybe Voivod.
But Ministry for sure.
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:40 PM
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12. Consolidated...Beers, Steers, & Queers... |
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:41 PM
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13. can I just yell "Throbbing Gristle"? |
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a friend has that new version of their big live set, 24 hours. I'm almost tempted to murder him and steal it to replace my crappy tapes.
Do you see what remastering has done to me? DRIVEN ME TO CONTEMPLATE MURDER.
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:43 PM
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17. TG would want you to do that, but mail them a cheque. |
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They're reforming for a gig. Tickets are $1000.
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:49 PM
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20. Bwhahah, you're kidding! |
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Edited on Sat Mar-06-04 10:49 PM by thebigidea
I remember bumping into P-Orridge and suggesting it as a joke some years ago when I was an even pushier young creep. He looked at me as if I were complete vermin at the very thought.
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:02 PM
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24. Here are the links to the "RE-TG" Festival: |
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They still have tickets listed for 125 Pounds, but apparently, those are sold out, and the only ones left are the chalet packages, which are $1000. http://www.throbbing-gristle.com/http://www.atpfestival.com/events/index.php?event=11http://www.brainwashed.com/tg/
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:14 PM
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27. gawd, that sounds great... great lineup for those 3 days |
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I'd be almost tempted to go if I could snag the 125 pound rate...
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:47 PM
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19. Ooooooh, that's gotta hoit |
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How could I've forgotten them?!
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(Btw, HI!! :hi: :D)
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:50 PM
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I lost those Knowing Me, Knowing You eps the very next day when the drive melted down due to some stupid cache setting.
I only got to see the first one! Oh woe is uh me bop...
real funny, too!
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:14 PM
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26. Oh fer fuck's sake... |
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Get thee back to whence they came, and re-acquire them, ASAP. :)
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:35 PM
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33. boy haven't thought about them in years! |
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:41 PM
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14. Well, if Wire is Goth, then a lot. But probably only Bauhaus. (nt) |
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:42 PM
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You know, Canuck, if you didn't start this thread, I would have!
Yeah, I love a lot of that stuff - more the doomy art-rock than the dancey industrial, though. Most of that Ministry/Thrill Kill stuff just sounded like distortion-box disco to me. I liked "industrial" when the term meant white-noise stuff like Non, Throbbing Gristle and Whitehouse, though.
Here's one for the list: Fad Gadget.
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Sat Mar-06-04 10:46 PM
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18. Ah, yes, the late, lamented Frank Tovey. |
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:01 PM
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It was four full months after he died before I found out. No music media in my area covered the news, and none of my friends are really that into him, so I didn't have any kind of grapevine news. I found out when I saw a New York Times obit taped up to the wall in a college radio station, and I bummed heavily.
Funny story: once I heard something oddly familiar through the heating vent in my house - my downstairs neighbor was blasting what sounded for all the world like "Ricky's Hand." I called him and asked if he was listening to Fad Gadget. He said "Yeah, I'm sorry, is it too loud?" So I told him no, either turn it up louder or invite me downstairs. Cool guy - we wound up hipping each other to a lot of stuff that evening.
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:15 PM
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28. When did Wire become Goth? |
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:30 PM
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31. Not Goth, per se, but "interesting". |
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Plus their later stuff (A Bell is a Cup, Wir, Ideal Copy), seemed to appeal to the gloomy floor-shufflers....
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:31 PM
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32. True, but I don't like "The Ideal Copy," and I don't have the others. |
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"Pink Flag," "Chairs Missing," and "154" are among my favoritest records.
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Sun Mar-07-04 12:13 AM
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44. I Loved 'The Ideal Copy' |
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But I wouldn't call it goth or industrial. More in the Bill Nelson School of Electronica vein.
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:43 PM
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not goth...
Thank you, come again...:hi:
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:26 PM
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I was a huge Ministry and Cabaret Voltaire fan in my late teens early twenties. I also liked Nitzer Ebb and Front 242.
I miss my clubbing days. Back when I weighed about 100 pounds less and drooled over the fully made up males as I danced with my friends.
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:27 PM
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:36 PM
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34. the big pools of drool must be very memorable! |
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My sister's friend used to say "He melts my butter" when she thought a boy was cute, so my sister and I used that when we went out dancing. We'd motion towards the fellow, and say "I'm a puddle." Then we joked about the difficulties of dancing in a puddle of melted butter.
I think we laughed a little more than was fashionable in those circles, but hey, we were having fun.
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:40 PM
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36. I used to be a cute Goth Boi. |
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Now I'm a conservative looking 36 year old guy in a fleece vest (at least it's still black).
I have been to a couple of Goth events in the last few years, but I sense my age. I get lots of 'tude from early 20's BabyGoths.
I'd love to jump up on a table and say "Hey, I've gone drinking with Peter Murphy, Martyn Atkins, Nivek Ogre, and Budgie, so UP YOURS!", but somehow I never do...
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:46 PM
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39. How could I forget Skinny Puppy? |
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My brother did some kind of illegal substance with Nivek Ogre, but I only went to a few concerts.
I look conservative, too, which occassionally makes me wonder what my 18 year old self would have thought of me, but that's kind of fleeting.
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:50 PM
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40. can't forget Meat Beat Manifesto, either |
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I listened to Satyricon millions of times in my early twenties.
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:51 PM
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41. and "99%", which is a great, great album. |
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Sun Mar-07-04 12:08 AM
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I can't count the number of times I've danced to God OD
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:43 PM
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37. Congrats on 1000 posts, BTW! |
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:38 PM
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35. never thought of Dead Can Dance as Goth |
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interesting... more as new wave medieval and beautiful
I used to go dancing to all that stuff with the "goths" but never really labelled it as goth or industrial... just dance music
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Sat Mar-06-04 11:55 PM
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I also like:
Ministry Summertime Daisies KMFDM Rammstein Feeling B/Inchtaboktables (do they count?) later Information Society (well, and their earlier stuff, but it isn't Goth at all!) The Wild Simoan Gangsta Tribe Skinny Puppy Front 242 Atari Teenage Riot (too techno for this list?)
Anyway, I've liked the music in all the Goth bars I've ever been in, although I'm a Notagothi -- tend to be a punk with dark tendencies (and a few whimsies, as I'm currently listening to HaDorbanim {The Hedgehogs}, an Israeli, Hebrew-language pop/disco band!).
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Sun Mar-07-04 12:36 AM
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45. You're the first person here other than me |
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That I've ever seen mention Atari Teenage Riot, or as I like to call them, "The Band You Can't Quote On Political Boards Without Getting A Special Visit From Homeland Security".
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Sun Mar-07-04 12:39 AM
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46. Are they Goth or Industrial enough for this thread? |
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Or are they just really, really naaaasty house/techno? I like your description of their lyrics, though... :)
If anyone here's even *heard* of WSGT or the Summertime Daisies I'd be very surprised!
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Sun Mar-07-04 12:42 AM
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47. I'd say they're industrial enough |
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More than enough.
I want to say I've heard of WSGT, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Sun Mar-07-04 12:42 AM
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are *NOT* techno!
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They're electro-noise at best...do NOT defile the good name of techno with ATR, for FUCK'S merciful sake...x(
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Sun Mar-07-04 01:38 AM
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51. Techno has a good name? ;-) |
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Most of what I've heard sounds like, oh, sixteen measures of this, sixteen measures of that...and I have half a dozen friends who are/were regular ravers and two or three who still DJ raves and that sort of thing. ;-)
If I'm going to listen to dance music, give me some good straight-up disco any day. I'm all about the formalism, baby!
Incidentally, formalism is the reason I dig EN so much -- a lot of their songs don't sound like songs until you start listening to them in terms of hearing the *structure*. After that, it's "oh, yeah, verse...chorus...bridge...progression..." and so on! (Skinny Puppy's the same way.) It took me about a month of listening to them nonstop, trying to get my head around some of their weirder stuff, to get to that point, though, I'm sorry to say.
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Sun Mar-07-04 01:00 AM
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I still like Dead Can Dance, Bauhaus, Sisters, the Cure, etc. But I'm not Goth. :) I've never been much into Industrial, but I used to go to this industrial club called Kontrol Faktory in LA. It was alot of fun.
One of my Top Ten shows was seeing Dead Can Dance at UCLA back in the 90s. I think that was after the Into the Labyrinth.
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Sun Mar-07-04 01:22 AM
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here's what's in my collection:
Cranes Cleaner Rasputina Praka Kahn Cure(duh)
I'm not sure what really qualifies but Saturday nites at the Cobalt Lounge are goth/industrial nights no cover & my wife & I go sometimes and we don't "dress up" but we really like the music we hear even though we don't know what it is most of the time and people are nice but sometimes wonder why we're there and we feel goth on the inside.
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Sun Mar-07-04 02:22 AM
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53. Here is some! dont forget these! |
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older.. Cocteau Twins Legendary Pink Dots Psychic TV Dead can Dance Death In June Marc Almond Chameleons The Cranes Love and Rockets Skinny Puppy Shriekback Sex Gang Children Coil Current 93 Nitzer Ebb Front 242 Specimen (kisskiss bangbang!) Visage
newer Apoptygma Berzerk Beborn Beton And 1 Fictional VnV Nation Project Pitchfork Covenant Wumpscut Die Form Clan of Xymox Informatik Numb Velvet Acid Christ Mentallo and the Fixer Din_fiv Die Form Syntec Bel Canto Wench
i like all those very much =)
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Sun Mar-07-04 02:24 AM
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54. oops i listed a few of yours heehee |
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55. Shriekback...Hammerheads (anthem of BushCo...) |
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Our time has come age of the hammerhead This is our mission to be the darlings of god Too late for silence too late for anything It's all too much for me it's roots go down to deep for me Our punishing fire an animal frenzy These hammerhead people they know what dange is for You let them in and now there everywhere If it's mineral or vegtable it's back a little up a little
Shot push hammerheads bold and resolute Marching balancing in too far to go back Yes yes hammerheads swimming kissing We are big and clever and we don't know anything Purification by emersion in our filthy demon seed We know the only things you like are paranoid sex and childish greed Our own worst enemies they hold us to our word Look at the beast inside us gonna get us this time but good Whether we pull it out or push it in it all ends up the same You know a hammerhead is a hammerhead by any other name
Onwards hammerhead bright and dangerous Jumping running in the filed and factory God save hammerheads keeping going We are sleek and special and we're sure of something Blessed are the airmen Blessed are the shit kickers Blessed are the jackhammers Blessed is the big damage Blessed are the faith healers Blessed are the moon wlakers Blessed are the snake people Blessed are the heat seakers
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Sun Mar-07-04 02:36 AM
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56. THIS ONE TOO! OIL AND GOLD! |
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BIG BLACK NEMSIS - OIL AND GOLD (shriekback)
In a jungle of the senses Tinkerbell and Jack the ripper Love has no meaning, not where they come from But we know pleasure is not that simple Very little fruit is forbidden Sometimes we wobble, sometimes we're strong But you know evil is an exact science Being carefully correctly wrong
Chorus Priests and cannibals, prehistoric animals Everybody happy as the dead come home Big Black Nemesis, parthenogenesis No one move a muscle as the dead come home
We feel like Greeks, we feel like Romans Centaurs and monkeys just cluster round us We drink elixirs that we refine from the juices of the dying We are no monsters, we're moral people and yet we have the strength to do this This is the splendour of our achievement Call in the airstrike with a poison kiss
Chorus Priests and cannibals, prehistoric animals Everybody happy as the dead come home Big black nemesis, parthenogenesis No-one move a muscle as the dead come home
How bad it gets, you can't imagine the burning wax, the breath of reptiles god is not mocked, he knows our business Karma could take us at any moment Cover him up.....I think we're finished You know it's never been so exotic but I don't know, my dreams are visions We could still end up with the great big fishes
Chorus Priests and cannibals, prehistoric animals Everybody happy as the dead come home Big black nemesis, parthenogenesis No-one move a muscle as the dead come home
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Sun Mar-07-04 02:49 AM
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That was an old favorite of mine, and now it's going over and over in my head. Sigh...and I was just getting ready to go to bed too.
Now I'm going to have to run out any buy a copy. Double sigh.
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