Is there such a thing as a non-sexist Star Trek TV show?

[Deja Q]

Now there is only correct response, if you think about it... :D

[RC]

1. OK, I'll bite.

What is sexest about star Trek?

[Deja Q]

3. Witness:

TNG: Troi. She never wears a proper uniform. She wears some lavender get-up that has a very low v-neck and is rather tight, ewww... Not to forget, the other women crewmembers' outfits seem to show off more than the mens' as well... More amusingly, in the episode featuring Tasha's sister, what did the Enterprise gang do when she beamed aboard? Why they changed her outfit from the brown/white loose-fitting ensemble to this bright blue extremely skin-tight form fitting get-up, complete with matching holster. :puke:

DS9: Kira. Never mind the parallel universe stories where she's in leather, her regular outfit is tight too. Not to forget the un-bold Dax/lesbian kiss in season 4. Complete with drooling saliva, that was there just so the daddies could get "sprung"... If it was two MEN kissing and the story have a little more depth than "Oh, my previous lover, my new symbiant host happens to have the same sexual organs, so let's get it on!"...

Voyager -> Janeway is also a victim of "tight uniform syndrome", though nobody noticed the instant 7-o-9 came aboard...

Enterprise -> T'Pol. Her dresses seem to get tighter every season. Hmmm, washing machine's cold water cycle go out or something? But at least we know when T'Pol is cold... :eyes: Or are they clutching at straws to bring back the dads to watch, though the kids by this point are watching something that requires more brain cells, like "Teletubbies".

The original series -> When did this show NOT have a sexist moment would be more apropos? Every episode has at least one woman in go-go boots, short miniskirt requiring the wearer to pull it DOWN, and push-up cleavage, and the ubiquitous vaseline-on-the-lens trick... Not that guys wouldn't like it, but still... Whether it be Starfleet, Romulan, or Rigel Seven-ian, there she is! Indeed, in the original series, Romulans were fleet commanders. Starfleet didn't have any women fleet commanders let alone starship commanders and even said so in "Turnabout Intruder" (an otherwise wonderful story), until Star Trek IV (Madge Sinclair being the first-ever Starship Captain...)... Not to forget Kirk himself being a sexist pig on no less than 2 occasions (both of the most severe transgressions occurred during the third season, go figure... Instead of treating an intelligent woman as an adult, he tries to turn her on with her charm. Worse is the incident with Deela (ahem)... Kirk is cool, but his libido is a bit much... But on the plus side, the TOS male outfits allowed the men to put socks in a novel location, though don't ask Gary Lockwood what happened to him on the set during filming... :D

[wickerwoman]

6. Yeah, but the men had tight, unflattering costumes too.

I'd rack it up to bad costuming, not sexism.

And since when does fitted costume=sexism? Are all the women supposed to be wearing Mao-jackets lest any man even consider thinking about them in a sexual way? Isn't that an even more pernicious form of sexism- the female form is sinful- we must hide it!

As someone else pointed out, Star Trek has women who can do things without being portrayed as pushy emasculating bitches. To write off all that simply because you can see their breasts through their uniforms is really absurd.

[XanaDUer]

7. One of my fave scenes

was when the Ronny Cox character told her to put on a regulation uniform and take off the ugly dresses and outfits.

He was damn right, too.

[arewethereyet]

2. isn't that half the point of the show, screwing the yeo(wo)man at the end?

am I missing something ?

[TOhioLiberal]

4. All sexist...

But what-the-hell; still better than nothing to a trekker like me!

-Trekker-lass :bounce:

[tigereye]

5. yeah but at least they had women who were scientists, linguists

and commanders, etc. You're right, the clothes are too tight. But I think Major Kira and Dax and T'pol are great and smart to boot. And Janeway was not a sex bomb.

[Heyo]

8. no offense....

...But, I think you may be mistaking the creators of the series wanting their actors and actresses to look good, and that includes the women being dressed up in (what they see as) attractive clothing, with objectification and/or sexism.

The women on Star Trek have very high and important positions.. I don't see it as sexist at all. Why would they have the women dress all frumpy? I think they look good.

Just my 2 cents.

Heyo

[Ysabel]

9. wesley crusher's...

outfit reveals nothing...

[mykpart]

10. The producers of all these shows are men.

Even Alan Alda and Phil Donahue don't always get it.

BTW, is Wesley Crusher gay?