Geico lizard meets his match with lol cat

[The Straight Story]

[BikeWriter]

1. That is supposed to be funny?

[Norwood]

3. I laughed pretty hard

:rofl: :rofl:

[BikeWriter]

4. Senseless killing amuses you, huh?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. It's a CAT, for pete's sake.

For a cat, hunting isn't senseless; it's survival.

[charlie and algernon]

9. seriously. Animals eat other animals.

that's the way the world works. Lions, Tigers, bears and House cats don't have the required programming in their brains to make or eat Tofu bars.

[BikeWriter]

11. It is either a feral domestic alien animal or a roaming one. Either way...

...allowing it to prey on our native species and compete unfairly with our own predators is unethical, immoral, and unlawful when it's been abandoned and/or threatens endangered species..

[TZ]

12. So if my cat catches an animal thats gotten into my house

I should punish it for following its instincts. Got it.:eyes:

[BikeWriter]

15. Reread my post. It says: "when it's been abandoned and/or threatens endangered species."

[charlie and algernon]

13. LOL, I think cats have been in this country long enough not to call them alien species

the "native" species should've had enough time to adapt by now. Besides, it looks like that lizard is inside the house, which makes it the "alien" in that cat's territory. If a mouse or bug gets in my apartment and my cat kills and eats it, there's not a god damned thing I can do about it while I'm at work short of putting a shock collar on her, LOL.

[BikeWriter]

14. You are wrong. That takes tens of thousands of years.

Many more species will be extinct before the next hundred years has passed.

[Bake]

19. I wouldn't worry too much about the geckos.

We've got brazilions of 'em down here in the South ...

NOM NOM NOM

:hi:

Bake

[BikeWriter]

23. It could as easily be the last gravid female of a now extinct species...

as far as this discussion goes.

[Bake]

35. Sometimes species go extinct without human intervention.

It's nature's way. Animals gotta eat.

Bake

[BikeWriter]

36. Cats are enabled to cause extinction of other species by humans.

That is neither nature's way nor moral nor ethical.

[Bake]

42. Humans didn't give them claws, or quick reflexes, or the instinct to hunt.

There's no moral/ethical issue here.

Bake

[BikeWriter]

44. Perhaps not for you.

[Stephanie]

103. It's also a photoshop

The shadows don't match.

[NoSheep]

205. I am SCREAMING in pain now .....ahahahhhhh hhhaaaaaaaaaaa

:rofl: Me thinks that one belongs in one of the other forums

[Iggo]

63. I didn't think it was all that funny...

...but there's not enough information to characterize that killing as 'senseless'.

Tough luck for the lizard. And the picture is kind of gruesome. But to call the killing 'senseless' is way overboard. It's a cat. It's what they do.

[BikeWriter]

65. It's what "they do" when enabled by humans who allow them outside...

...except for the rare animal that comes indoors.

[Iggo]

187. It's "what they do" when they see a lizard they can grab.

:patriot:

[backwoodsbob]

77. if you had seen some of what my cats have brought in

it's what they do.

Snakes
a rabbit
HUNDREDS of lizards
birds
squirrels

Cats are killers by nature

[BikeWriter]

83. "Cats are killers by nature" and you are proud you enable them?

[backwoodsbob]

90. umm..where did I say I was PROUD?

Oh thats right...I didn't

[BikeWriter]

92. You may not have said that out loud...

but you danged sure seemed to make your statement loud and clear!

[backwoodsbob]

96. I have a wooden retaining wall behind the house

it is a UNNATURAL ecosystem for lizards and we have HUNDREDS of them living in it.

Do you suggest we tear down the wall and our house and live in a cave and eat berries and roots or would we be a unwelcome intrusion to our ecosystem?

[BikeWriter]

98. I suggest you control your alien domestic animals to protect our ecology.

[fudge stripe cookays]

198. What the hell is wrong with you?

Cats are predators. No one here is PROUD of them.

We just recognize something you don't. They are part of the food chain.

[Norwood]

193. Its not senseless the cat was hungry

Are you offended by the food chain? Don't watch the Discovery Channel or Animal Planet, you'll get so offended and worked up you just might give yourself a heart attack.

Oh and the picture is still hysterical!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

17. it must be really hard to live without a sense of humor. nt

[BikeWriter]

18. Would that picture be funny if it were a kitty dangling from a dog's mouth?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. no. i see your point and i apologize. on the other hand i wouldnt call it senseless killings

because cats kill prey. i would say the picture is in bad taste as their are many kitty lovers in the lounge. i am sure there are gecko lovers too and their feelings should be protected equally.

[BikeWriter]

24. You're thinking now, but you're thinking with your heart...

...not your head. Emotionally rather than ethically.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

27. cats are indoor animals and should be kept indoors. i am not doubting you on that

[BikeWriter]

31. Thank you, you just made my day!

:hug:

[backwoodsbob]

79. cats are not always indoor animals

my male cat patrols at night with my shepperds.

They head out to the woods side by side

[La Lioness Priyanka]

81. i am not talking about the individual cat but when you introduce a new species

to a biosphere, it should be contained because of the damage it does to native species

[BikeWriter]

85. Thank you, La Lioness Priyanka.

[BikeWriter]

84. From what you say your animals leave inroads in our ecology.

[backwoodsbob]

91. if you really believe my cats killing

common lizards and black snake babies...which we have both by the brazillion..will destroy my local ecology...I can't help you

[BikeWriter]

94. You won't help me, or our ecology, because you don't know...

what your animals kill.

[NoSheep]

207. Aren't you concerned about the polio virus you may have disabled by getting a vaccination?

What about bacteria? It's just photo-shop in the Lounge.

[NoSheep]

212. Aren't you going to stand up for viruses???? Gaddammit!

[GCP]

142. .

:thumbsup:

[Lyric]

28. It's not really a gecko, it's an anole lizard.

There are about ten brazillion of them running around everywhere in Florida--they are to Florida what field mice are to other states. They get into houses all the time, and as cats are hunters, seeing a cat eat one is not a big deal.

[Shell Beau]

33. It isn't a big deal, but it isn't something I care to laugh at.

I don't laugh when they eat little ole mice either. Maybe I am too much of a softie.

[Lyric]

134. Being a softie is not a bad thing.

:hug:

[Lorien]

128. It's a shame that it's a green anole and not a brown one

the green variety are shrinking in population while the more aggressive brown anoles take over. I don't see many of the green in my yard anymore, but the browns are EVERYWHERE! I have a tough time keeping my kitty Puck away from them on our daily walks.She's done in three before I could stop her.

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[BeachBaby]

29. I'm betting that this is a beautiful Photoshop job.

As are many of the LOLcat pics. Don't take it too seriously. :)

[BikeWriter]

38. I take it very seriously. Feral and roaming cats kill millions of animals...

each year. Millions more orphaned nestlings and young starve to death. That suffering is not funny to me!

[BeachBaby]

43. You are misunderstanding what I said.

I was suggesting that you not take the PHOTO seriously. Photoshop is all the rage these days.

[BikeWriter]

46. If that photo was a fake it represented tens of thousands of real scenes...

...each day, right?

[BeachBaby]

51. Maybe. Maybe not.

But let's say that it IS a real picture, with no chop job done to it. Are you suggesting that we rewrite the food chain? Primal instinct? Predatory instinct?

Nothing against your opinion here, but it's what cats do. Domestic or otherwise.

[BikeWriter]

54. I am saying alien domestic predators have no place in our ecology!

They are a creation of the human race and the 5,000 or so years we've been altering them. There is no real place for them in Africa where they now interbreed with and weaken their parent race.

[BeachBaby]

60. Would you let your dog attack my cat?

Just curious.

[BikeWriter]

61. I don't own a dog at present. If your cat is safely indoors it will be safe from dogs.

[BeachBaby]

64. But, let's say you DO own a dog....

and a loose cat was strolling around. Would you allow your dog to attack it?

[BikeWriter]

68. I have had large numbers of dogs in my back yard at a time...

I spent money on my fences and kept them in good repair. "A loose cat strolling around" would have had to jump or climb a tall fence to invade my back property, and yes, due to irresponsible cat owners not controlling them it has happened.

[Call Me Wesley]

78. While I agree with your basic sentiment,

and you know I respect you, I see some very basic flaws in your arguments. So, a "A loose cat strolling around," killed by your dogs would be the blame of the irresponsible cat owners (and obviously it has happened, because your dogs weren't kept indoors where they might belong if they're this vicious against other sentient beings, killing them), however, your dogs are free to roam on their basic instincts? What about any other animals which managed to climb your fence (and there's plenty of them.)


Doesn't really make sense to me at all. Both, cats and dogs are predators. So are the lizards; we have plenty of them here, killing ants, grasshoppers, and even baby lizards.

So are birds; we have plenty of mocking birds here ravaging the nests of other songbirds eating their babies ...

So are we. I guess you're riding your bike on highways that were built (without thinking) violating native animals environments. Invasion and cruelty everywhere.

While I think the OP's pic isn't funny at all, you're getting enraged here about nothing. Your dogs killed cats. Your dogs will kill any other animal they encounter. You tell me the difference and I offer you a beer. Until then, it's hypocrisy at its best.

[BikeWriter]

87. A few years ago one of my dogs "called" me...

The tone of his bark told me he was at a loss at how to deal with something encroaching on our property. I went outside and found a three foot long iguana in his half/drum watering container. I gave the escaped iguana to a friend I knew would care properly for it. I'll have a Guinness, thank you.

[madinmaryland]

121. Well since you are implying that it's the fault of the human race, then

lets eliminate the human race. We obviously have the capability.

:shrug:

And what is the snarky comment about humans in Africa interbreeding?


:wtf:

[Stephanie]

105. We should exterminate them!

[BikeWriter]

111. Yes, or perhaps you would prefer to enable the suffering forever?

[Stephanie]

115. Kill the Katz!

Becuz They Is Killerz!

[Pavulon]

178. Jeesus Christt, Mr Garrison..

that is all. WTF is wrong with you people. Cats eat stuff. In my house that includes spiders. God help the spiders.

[The Straight Story]

190. Yep

I am not sure where your sense of humor went, but you need to find it.

LOL cat, Geico lizard. It is nothing more than that.

If you want to make it more than that, then I feel sorry for you.

Have you raised valid concerns? Sure. Have you missed the humor in it all? Yep

Sometimes a funny pic is just that.

It is folks like you that worry me. Making something out of nothing.

We call it poutrage here.

[elshiva]

2. Good kitty.

I hate that damn lizard. :applause:

[mockmonkey]

5. If only there was a larger cat

to eat the caveman too.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

7. sabre toothed tiger, maybe?

[Blue_Tires]

8. nom?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

10. Onomatopoeia -nt

[Shell Beau]

16. Aw, the poor lizard! I love little lizards.

[BikeWriter]

21. That puts a different perspective on the picture doesn't it? TY!

:hug:

[Shell Beau]

26. I am constantly scooping up lizards and frogs to get them

out of harm's way (my dogs mouths)!! I love all animals. I know that nature is nature, but I try to prevent little froggies and lizards getting killed around my house.

[Bake]

22. So does the cat!

:rofl:

Bake

[Shell Beau]

25. Bad bad bad Bake!

:spank:

[OwnedByFerrets]

169. A Komodo dragon would turn the tails.

[badgerpup]

30. Cats are predators...it's what they do...

It bugs me a bit when my monsters go after birds (rodents are another story; they're destructive) but the only rule here is that "What happens Outside, stays Outside." This means that if they try to bring their catch/toy/trophy inside, I'll take it away and dispose of it as I see fit (let it go, take it to the local vet who specializes in saving baby birds, or bury it).

This is why, though I like birds very much, I don't put out bird food. Feels too much like 'setting bait'.

I don't particularly enjoy watching them nomming something they've caught, but figure it's their privelege to do so. They're cats...obligate carnivores and small efficient predators wired to run on mice, birds, bugs, lizards, and other things made of meat (or protein, at least). My only interference in this is a 4X a year prophylactic dose of Cestex (anti-tapeworm med).

[BikeWriter]

32. There is no place in the world's ecology for the domestic cat...

...any more than there is for the pit bull.

[charlie and algernon]

37. so what should be do, eliminate them all?

We're stuck with them now, there are 10s of millions of those domestic cats. I concede your point upthread that it will take many many more years for nature to adapt, but it will. Sure, unfortunately a few species will be wiped out, but that's how it is. That's nature's way. We won't ever get cats to go on a solely vegetarian diet, so some animals will be eaten and some species will disappear. But the rest will adapt and new species will evolve that can deal wil cats.

[BikeWriter]

39. Who is stuck with them now? Is it moral or ethical to ignore them?

Is it moral or ethical to ignore them or to enable them to further decimate more species? Why not do the responsible thing and control them?

[charlie and algernon]

40. when did it become our responsibility to control cats?

cats have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years, now all of a sudden we have to control them? The mid-atlantic has what some would say a serious deer problem. In that the deer population has exploded, so I would assume you're in favor of massive deer hunts to control that population? I think you have some unrealistic expectation that suddenly there's going to be thousands of feral cats in each city, town, and hamlet across America. Cats hanging out in everyone's backyard and zero birds and rodents. That's not going to happen. Nature will find a way on its own without our own meddling.

[BikeWriter]

41. When did it become our responsibility to control cats? When we developed ethics.

[Bake]

45. My dog chased down and killed a squirrel

Does that make him a murderer? Or me?

Bake

[BeachBaby]

47. Well, I killed a deer a few weeks ago....

by hitting it with the Jeep I was driving. I felt - and still feel - like shit for it, but the doe's timing made it impossible for me to stop.

Does that make ME a murderer? I guess it depends on who you ask.

:hi:

[Bake]

49. Not murder, just involuntary man/deerslaughter ...

:hi:

Bake

[BikeWriter]

50. Accidents do happen. I'm glad you weren't hurt, but sorry about the deer .

[BikeWriter]

48. It's your responsibility to control your animals...

Your dog may have doomed a litter of young to starvation, too. Shrug it off or laugh if you like, but I can't.

[TZ]

55. yes because that kind of stuff never happens on its own.

Get a grip will you. If predators didn't kill these animals we would be overrrun by them. Cats actually do a lot of good in controlling DISEASE CARRYING rodents. But hey..If you want to get Hantaa virus or plague thats fine with me. I'll do without, thanks.

[BikeWriter]

56. Myth, myth, myth! Cats unfairly compete with our natural predators...

...that evolved over millions of years keeping our rodent populations in check! Cats, being a domestic animal and subsistence fed by people throw the entire natural system of checks and balances out of kilter! Get real, cats do not have a niche in our ecosystem!

[TZ]

57. Get real.

Most of the urban settings that cats dominate have had their natural prey populations soar because of lack of predators. Rats, mice, squirrels, deer and many others. ALL are OVERPOPULATING their environments. So yeah, sometimes feral cats take out endgangered species but more often they are eating critters that need to be controlled.
Your obvious dislike to the domestic cat is giving you a twisted view of ecology. BTW---me...ecology,evolution and behavior major in school. More predation is actually good for our environment.
On edit: You DO KNOW that the black death in Europe wouldn't have been nearly as bad if the people hadn't killed cats as "witches familiars" instead of letting them kill the plague carrying rats right? So your screed about cats being bad is full of holes.
I suggest you educate yourself instead of jumping to unwarranted and unscientific conclusions.

[BikeWriter]

58. Tsk, tsk, tsk. You're an ecology major yet you insist domestic cats...

...take out endangered species but more often they are eating critters that need to be controlled? That is unbelievable to me, when Fish and Wildlife authorities, ornithologists, and ecologists all over the world put the domestic cat second only to habitat destruction as a threat to our wildlife.

[BikeWriter]

59. Worldwide, cats may have been involved in the extinction of more bird species than any other cause

"Despite the difficulties in showing the effect most predators have on their prey, cats are known to have serious impacts on small mammals and birds. Worldwide, cats may have been involved in the extinction of more bird species than any other cause, except habitat destruction. Cats are contributing to the endangerment of populations of birds such as Least Terns, Piping Plovers and Loggerhead Shrikes. In Florida, marsh rabbits in Key West have been threatened by predation from domestic cats <11>. Cats introduced by people living on the barrier islands of Florida's coast have depleted several unique species of mice and woodrats to near extinction <12, 13>."

http://wildlife.wisc.edu/extension/catfly3.htm

[TZ]

154. Actually rats have done more damage to birds

They have been responsible for more known extinctions than birds. And non native BIRDS have done as much damage as cats and sweetie I am a birder who probably been birding longer than you have been alive and I have yet to here the sheer ignorance from any of my birder friends that I've seen here. You are the CLASSIC cat hater with little actual science to back you up...you do realize that CATS are native to almost all continents so your "invader species" argument is bullshit

[BikeWriter]

155. Domestic cats? Get real!

[Kali]

69. or humans either, right?

:eyes:

so, should we get rid of all domestic animals or only the ones you don't like? What about small wild cats? do they get a pass?

[BikeWriter]

72. The small wild cats of the Americas, the Margay, and Ocelet?

I have no problem with any ofthem. They evolved and belong in the ecology here.

[Kali]

73. when does a species become native?

or are they only alien when associated with humans?

again - shouldn't WE and ALL of our domestic animals hit the road?

[BikeWriter]

74. You're really grasping at straws now. Good. Some of my ancestors...

...were here in prehistoric times. They revered nature and conserved it, praying to the souls of the animals they harvested. As I said feral domestic cats should no more be loose in our ecology than the pit bull. When you abandon one you show you don't value the lives of the dozens or hundreds of wildlife it will kill.

[Kali]

76. if you are referring to aboriginal people of this hemisphere, they were

an "invasive" species as well (by that I mean did not evolve here, rather migrated from Asia) and may have contributed to extinctions, but perhaps that is what you have arbitrarily decided to be the determination point for "native"? Prehistoric?

Whether they revered or honored nature is a bit difficult to determine since as you pointed out they left no real records. Undoubtedly nature was a part of religious structure but it may well have been an antagonistic or hostile view. No real way to tell.

[BikeWriter]

82. Oh, you want to debate more?

My First Nations ancestors left a legacy of word of mouth. They lived in tribes but it has never even been suggested they were high impact on our ecology as say... the many large colonies of feral cats currently vying for population status with the many humans in Florida?

[Kali]

159. hmm word of mouth - no bias there

bet all was sweet and light - just a bunch of happy, low impact basket-making hunter/gatherers/sustainable farmers, right? yeah. Might want to check out some of the literature that has been worked up over the last few years. No disease, ecological impacts, warfare, slavery or violence at all. right.

sorry not going to argue mythology with you, but if you want to talk about science - let's go.

[achtung_circus]

181. Hey

are you saying that JJ Rousseau wasn't a scientist?

[BreweryYardRat]

80. Let's extend your argument. If your ancestors were here in prehistoric times...

...they and their dogs killed off the vast majority of the North/Central/South American megafauna species. Short-faced bears, saber-toothed cats, dire wolves, giant ground sloths, giant elk, mammoths, mastodons, teratorns, glyptodonts, the Caribbean giant hawks...and this is just off the top of my head.

The ancestors that you venerate had a much more drastic effect on the American ecology than feral cats could EVER have.

By participating in this ancestor worship, you show you don't value the lives of the thousands or millions of animals they killed, and the dozens of species they made extinct.

[BikeWriter]

88. As I said, you people grasp as straws. I can't go back in time...

...and bring back the saber-tooth tiger, but I will be a force in ridding our ecology of the feral cat before I die.

[BreweryYardRat]

99. Hmm. Definitely no sense of humor. All right, if you're not much for satire...

...here's a more serious comment.

The same Europeans who introduced feral cats also killed off most of the pre-European populations of various small predator species (bobcats, foxes, coyotes, mustelids, small hawks/falcons, etc...) that preyed on a lot of the same animals feral cats eat. Without feral cats, there'd have been a massive boom in the populations of those animals -- which would be a lot worse for the environment than predator overpopulation.

When the populations of native species have been rebuilt to pre-European levels THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, then you can talk about removing feral cats from the ecology. (And just how were you planning to do that, anyway? Mass slaughter?)

[BikeWriter]

104. Ha ha ha ha! ...And you would kill off the rest of our predators?

The feral cat enablers are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths each day, that includes cats, many of which end up entangled in the belts and pulleys of vehicles or as kitty frisbees on the roads. Control the feral domestic animals responsibly and you will lessen the suffering!

[BreweryYardRat]

117. Okay, you're grossly misrepresenting my statement. I'm not going

I never said word one about killing natural predators in favor of cats, and I'm extremely insulted that you'd imply that. I'd rather have our natural predators than feral cats. But most of our natural predator populations are gone, and we ain't getting back the original large numbers of them any time soon.

Before I hit Ignore, allow me to note that I'm in favor of spay/neuter programs for feral cats. Enough of them get abandoned or are uncatchable that spaying/neutering will balance out the population.

[BikeWriter]

122. Are you refering to Trap, Neuter, Abandon to be killed and kill again?

[BreweryYardRat]

119. PS.

You're an obnoxious ass with a serious holier-than-thou complex, but I feel sorry for you. You must be a very unhappy person.

[BikeWriter]

125. Ha ha ha ha ha! SMOOCH! I love you when you get mad!

[FloridaJudy]

191. BTW, most geckos are NOT native to the US

Though you see them all over Florida. So what you have there is supposedly a picture of one invasive species killing another.

Balances out IMHO.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

151. Fail.

[mainegreen]

210. Oh very good!

:rofl:

[SoxFan]

185. Pippy says go phuck yourself

[lost-in-nj]

34. oh boy

now look what you've done

:*




:popcorn: :yoiks:



:hi:

lost

[Bake]

52. SOMEbody needs to get a grip ...

Hey, pass me some of that popcorn!

:hi:

Bake

[msanthrope]

173. I call a Poe on Bike Writer,,,,at least, I sincerely hope it's

a Poe.

Because I can't imagine the color of the sky in that world. And I can't imagine it being much fun, living there.

[suninvited]

53. A cat and lizard story.

Once there was an adorable little chameleon lizard living on my sun porch. I love lizards, and this one was really cute. When I would sit on the porch and have a smoke it seemed like he would come to visit me. Not sit in my lap or anything, but he would always come out and look at me when I was sitting out there. I would talk to him, and he appeared to listen. We had a pretty good deal, he would eat bugs that would get into my sun porch and he got a nice comfy home with protection from the elements.

One day I walked out to my porch and to my horror there stood my cat with a lizard (THE lizard) hanging out of his mouth pretty much like in the picture above. I dropped everything and grabbed the cat's mouth trying to make him open it. The lizard was clearly alive, but the cat wasnt letting go. The cat started growling at me and was really upset that I wanted "his" lizard. It was quite a fight.

In the end, I won, and the lizard lived. The cat was mad at me for the rest of the day. From that day forward, I made sure I pulled the porch door completely shut. The lizard continued to live on my porch, and the cat would sit at that door for hours at a time trying for another shot at the lizard. It was a screen door, so to make matters even worse for the cat, he could SEE the lizard out there.

Cats are hunters, and they will kill a lizard that enters their domain. I like cats and I like lizards. They do NOT coexist, however.

[Iggo]

62. Delete...wrong spot. (n/t)

[Arugula Latte]

66. This thread has the makings of a DU flamewar classic.

And all over a little photo of a kitty munchin' a lizard.

:rofl:

[BeachBaby]

67. I was just thinking the same thing.

Cat hate in the Lounge? :scared:

[BikeWriter]

71. I don't hate cats. I hate what irresponsible people allow them to do.

[charlie and algernon]

126. you don't hate cats, yet you want them all dead

:eyes:

have you forgotten to take your medication today?

[BikeWriter]

Show me a country where cats are endangered!

It is cat enabler organizations who are choosing which will live, domestic cats or our natural flora and fauna? I want to change that.

[charlie and algernon]

135. alright, now I know you're just having a bit of fun

no sane person would ever be caught using the phrase "cat enabler organizations."

So basically its perfectly ok for YOU to choose what species get to live, but not anyone else??

:eyes:

[BikeWriter]

167. So basically stop abandoning pets into the wild to kill our fauna, yes!

Put them in your bathroom, put them in your bedroom, put them in your closet, basement, and attic, but don't abandon them into the wild to destroy our ecosystems. Is that plain enough?

[BikeWriter]

70. In a flame war someone is usually calling names and cursing...

Thus far I see spirited debate.

[BikeWriter]

75. I must say none of you has impressed me with your superior logic...

That being said, I will declare this debate a complete victory for the "Cats Indoor campaign" and go do something challenging for a while. :rofl:

[The Straight Story]

86. Damn, I won without saying anything

:) Just got home from work to this. Now I need a drink.

[BikeWriter]

89. You won? I hardly think so.

[The Straight Story]

93. Cats were wild and living outdoors long before we came along

Of course, back then we could hunt em and make them into nice slippers and such.

Ah, the good old days...

[BikeWriter]

95. Not even close, domestic cat's ancestors were not in the Americas.

[The Straight Story]

97. So they are here illegally? Someone call Lou Dobbs

He will work on a kitty litter border :)

[J-Lo Biafra]

110. Win!

:rofl:

[backwoodsbob]

113. mmmm

or

[BikeWriter]

116. Not even close!

[backwoodsbob]

132. hmm

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/caer/ce/eek/critter/mammal/bobcat.htm


Snip: They'll chase and eat smaller animals such as mice, voles, shrews, reptiles, birds and even insects. Snip


Now lynx

http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~doug/Canada_lynx.htm

snip In summer the lynx's diet is more varied. But even in summer hares remain the main prey, supplemented by grouse, voles, mice, squirrels, and foxes Snip

[lost-in-nj]

182. you have not ONCE

ventured or given a reasonable solution
did a cat jump in front of you while you were riding your bike??? :shrug:

all you do is beat everyone else up
and NEVER once have you offered anything but

SNARK

WHAT WOULD BIKE WRITER DO???????


tell us

oh yeah

you have no idea



lost

[J-Lo Biafra]

100. I love it when people get their knickers in a twist over the balance of nature.

cats kill. that's what they do.

[PeaceNikki]

101. ENABLER!

[J-Lo Biafra]

102. Your point being?

:P

[mainegreen]

203. You just made me laugh very hard.

[BikeWriter]

107. There is nothing natural about them being in the Americas.

[J-Lo Biafra]

108. Whatthefuckever, sparky, it's no reason to get all flamey over a dumb photo.

[Stephanie]

109. Deport them all!

Down with Cats!

[J-Lo Biafra]

112. I has a green kard.

I'm in ur chekpoint, showin muh paperz.

[PeaceNikki]

150. Done.

[J-Lo Biafra]

174. Brilliant!

:D

[PeaceNikki]

183. .

[Kali]

161. bwahahahahah

[SoxFan]

186. Off topic

You have one of the most awesome names on DU.

[J-Lo Biafra]

188. Thanks! It came to me in my waking hours,

and it was better than my old handle. :D

[flvegan]

106. YES!!! I've seen feral cats, songbirds, pit bulls and Florida all in one thread!

Who is up for some Olive Garden to celebrate?

[BikeWriter]

114. Go ahead and laugh. Most birders are not.

[flvegan]

123. Did I laugh?

I mocked this trainwreck of a thread. We haven't done this topic in a while, and it's always a good show when it comes around.

[BikeWriter]

127. I am damned serious, flvegan. As I told the birders and ecologists...

...visiting my blog, they are either part of the solution or part of the problem.

[flvegan]

131. Which I appreciate, as we've discussed before.

I know you don't appreciate my participation in the solution (you see it as problem) but opinions vary. That's why, unless I'm mistaken, for the sake of peace, we agreed to disagree and work in our own ways.

[BikeWriter]

133. Trap, neuter, abandon does nothing but prolong the killing.

[flvegan]

144. By that standard, applied to my beliefs

theory being I should kill feral cats because they kill other wildlife, in which city/town/state do YOU suggest I start mass execution of humans? You know, considering that I care about all animals, and don't pick and choose.

I'd wager that humans kill more animals than cats do. Almost as silly as starting a trap/snip/release program for men so that the population dies down.

Silly, I know but it's a valid point.

See? Standards.

Now I'm sure that even without reading the entire thread that the topic of human predation has been covered, so if you don't feel like responding or just want to tell me to fuck off, I understand.

[BikeWriter]

153. Delete

[flvegan]

156. I prefer dead animals over disrupting the fur babies, do I?

Tell me about your meals over the last month.

The evil that men do lives after them. That's the problem.

[BikeWriter]

166. I was walking away, but tell me how you can ethically justify...

...choosing a a feral invasive animal to live in the wild and enable them to kill dozens, perhaps hundreds, that evolved here?

[flvegan]

168. Not going to respond to what I posted? Very well.

I can be the bigger person here.

As to your question, it's simple. How can I ethically justify killing an animal that, through no fault of its own, came to this situation? I can't. It's not the fault of the cat. If we wanted to eliminate the problem, we'd go up the chain of fault, and euthanize pet owners that don't spay/neuter and toss animals aside when they're done with them. But we can't do that, the human animal being more equal than all the rest. Funny thing that.

And once again, humans kill far more and we're 10 times more invasive. But since we're more equal than everything else, fuck the world.

As I've said before, I appreciate your activism and being as vocal as you are on this topic. I wish every single person would be so involved in protecting a segment of this ecosystem we call Earth. The more folks that hear about this problem the better, and that's how we're going to fix it. I credit you with that. However, don't try to throw me allegedly "choosing one animal over another" in my face. To the very limits of my human ability, I don't kill nor cause the death of any animal. Quite the opposite, and you know that.

[BikeWriter]

170. You are in denial, fivegan, and I'm not refering to a river in Egypt.

[flvegan]

172. Whatever.

If that's the very best you have after what I posted, we're done here.

[J-Lo Biafra]

124. I'm a millet's rights advocate. Screw the songbirds.

[madinmaryland]

143. Only with an Asian Woodcarver.

:hide:

[flvegan]

146. Tamales!

[Starry Messenger]

118. Wow, I've heard of these types of threads.

I never thought I would see one out in the wild like this.

[Stephanie]

120. Some people will do anything to build their post count.

[Arugula Latte]

139. Definitely add it to your "life list."

:rofl:

[flvegan]

129. Has anybody pointed out yet that this cat...is inside?

At least, he/she looks to be. I get lizards in my house all the time. I like having them around, but it does happen.

[charlie and algernon]

130. i mentioned it way in the beginning, but he ignored that little factoid

[elshiva]

137. ....

[madinmaryland]

141. Maybe the cat and the gecko should be teabagged.

:wow:

:hide:

[elshiva]

145. Okay, I'll teabag them both.

Slurp slurp, yummy! ;)

[madinmaryland]

148. I don't know about the gecko, but our cats

are able to teabag themselves.

:yoiks:

[elshiva]

149. That's one of the benefits of being a cat.

:hug: :loveya:

[BeachBaby]

157. Lizards in the house?

How do the pups react?

[flvegan]

158. Lizards are WAAAY smarter than the pups.

They move too quickly and up too high. They also tend to find good hiding spaces. I try to catch them to return them outside. No idea what food they'd find in the house that could sustain them.

[BeachBaby]

162. Pups unsuccessfully chasing lizards.

No TV needed when you have that kind of entertainment. :)

[Kali]

163. spiders!

:rofl:

[flvegan]

164. Heh. Just the small ones though.

I don't mind the tiny ones. I have one in my bathroom right now. It's the big-ass spawn of the devil ones I hate. You know, anything bigger than a quarter in legspan.

[BeachBaby]

165. I got bitten by a brown recluse when I was 17 years old.

Got me in my sleep - on the inside of my left forearm. By the time I realized it wasn't a nasty mosquito bite, I had just under a 106 degree fever, was rushed to the ER, and the doc said that I could have died later that day.

So....long story to say that I'm with ya on the big spider hatred. :patriot:

[Shell Beau]

194. They are always in my house too. They are hard little suckers to catch.

I catch them and put them in a "safe" place outside. Far away from my dogs. I even freed a baby one that got caught up in a spider web. Not sure if the spider could have done anything to it, but I never underestimate a hungry spider.

[EstimatedProphet]

184. Also, has anyone pointed out yet...

THAT FUCKING TALKING LIZARDS DON'T EXIST?!?

This is one of the most embarrassing things I have ever seen on DU. Seriously. It's shit like this that gives Jonah Goldberg the ammunition to make asinine statements about liberals who try to be offended on purpose.

[soleiri]

136. Kitties are cute!

end of story.

[tekisui]

138. kick

all domestic cats out of America!

[soleiri]

140. Send them back to Mexico!

:Shakesfistwithgreatanger:

[Arugula Latte]

147. I'm gonna volunteer to patrol the border an' turn back Mexkin gatos at the Rio Grande!

:patriot:

[soleiri]

152. I believe

I will be the sunburned one sitting in a folding chair outside of an RV near our southern border drinking a bud light next to a sign that reads.

Amerca is fore the Burds!!!

And yes, I will have my shotgun.
Look for me on the internets.


:patriot:

[elshiva]

160. Let's do it.

Enough already.

[lightningandsnow]

171. I can't believe you people managed to have a flamewar about a lolcat.

Actually, I believe it. :rofl:

[msanthrope]

176. I think Bike Writer is a Poe. So maybe it's not a real

flamewar....right????

Or maybe I just don't want to believe that a fellow DUer is this hyped up over a frakkin lizard....

[GoneOffShore]

179. Even Poe's can go on "ignored" lists.

Sigh - haven't had to do that since the primaries.

[AwakeAtLast]

177. and a lizard

Don't forget about the poor lizard....who may or may not have been eaten.

:rofl:

[BarenakedLady]

175. I love all animals and all...

But that still made me laugh.

[XNASA]

180. K & R nt

[csziggy]

189. That calls for revenge!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpBkc2jK-6w

No, this is NOT a RickRoll.

[MrSlayer]

192. Excellent.

Amusing.

[Bertha Venation]

195. I can't believe this hasn't been locked.

[madinmaryland]

196. I can't believe we have both kicked this thread!!

:hi:

[WildEyedLiberal]

197. How the HELL did this turn into an Ultimate DU Flamewar?

Also, that pic is very obviously photoshopped, so no animals were harmed in the making of this LOLcat. Jeeeeezus!

[flvegan]

199. Kick! For the hickory smoked flamey goodness!

[madinmaryland]

200. I thought you disliked hickory smoked gecko.

:shrug:

[flvegan]

201. This thread is vegan!

[mainegreen]

208. This thread is brilliant, and I relished every reading moment of it.

[flvegan]

211. Some say, John Wilkes Booth was a cat.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

202. Is this thing still going on?

It needs more lolcats.

[BeachBaby]

204. That's what I was just thinking.

I'm trying to decide if I should nuke myself some more popcorn.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

206. Pop some popcorn, then check out what a really determined cat can catch:

[EastTennesseeDem]

209. That car is a sentient being!

Really though, I like the dude on the phone.

[NoSheep]

213. That tears it! Your pussy is OUT OF CONTROL!