JVS
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Fri Jun-12-09 12:51 PM
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The premise of Stand by Me is bullshit. |
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The guy opens up saying that the first time he saw a dead human being was when he was 12 going on 13, and then he starts unraveling the story. Within 10 minutes we are informed of the death of the older brother which takes place four months before the quest to see the dead body.
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Fri Jun-12-09 12:57 PM
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1. Coulda been a closed-casket funeral.... |
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IIRC, the older brother died in a jeep accident so that's plausible...
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Fri Jun-12-09 01:31 PM
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4. That's what I was thinking. |
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I can't remember if that was explained in the original story, "The Body."
Awesome story. Awesome movie.
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Fri Jun-12-09 01:35 PM
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5. It was in the original |
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In the book, the older brother got squished by an out-of-control race car at the race track. That's usually not a situation where you want to have an open casket funeral.
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Fri Jun-12-09 01:50 PM
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6. That's way cooler than just a plain jeep accident! |
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Fri Jun-12-09 01:02 PM
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2. Factually Deconstructing Film Is Generally A Waste of Intellectual Effort. n/t |
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Fri Jun-12-09 01:07 PM
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3. Well, yeah...it's by a pulp writer |
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Fri Jun-12-09 10:04 PM
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30. Well... he's not William Faulkner, but he's not Danielle Steele either, know what I'm saying? |
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Fri Jun-12-09 01:52 PM
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7. That is one of the best movies ever. |
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And not everyone does an open casket. And maybe his parents didn't want him to see him. So many reasons why he may not have seen his dead brother.
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Fri Jun-12-09 03:51 PM
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10. Yep, LostinVA doesn't want an open casket |
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Personally, I think unless the body is horribly disfigured, it's weird not to have one.
I'm Irish, we're supposed to stare at a dead body for awhile, say some Hail Mary's over it, and then get stinking drunk. It's just the way things are done.
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Fri Jun-12-09 03:54 PM
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11. I think open casket is creepy |
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I've always been so uncomfortable at a funeral where there was an open casket. Closed casket seems much more "respectable?" to me I guess.
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Fri Jun-12-09 08:16 PM
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27. it's not the open casket |
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it's the creepy make up
dead body is ok to look at, why make it look like some kind of clown?
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Fri Jun-12-09 04:27 PM
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13. yup. nothing like an Irish wake... |
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Fri Jun-12-09 04:35 PM
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15. My grandfather (Irish and a drunk) had his funeral on St. Patrick's Day |
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Best fucking funeral EVER.
Bagpipes, open bar, the whole nine yards.
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Fri Jun-12-09 04:48 PM
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16. wow. I belong to a local Irish Center, and I always joke to them that I was |
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raised to think that being Irish meant arguing politics with a beer in my hand. :rofl:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife
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Fri Jun-12-09 07:09 PM
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20. Well, that's what often happens |
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Fri Jun-12-09 04:27 PM
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14. You gotta look at the body just so everyone is sure that the person is dead. |
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Fri Jun-12-09 07:00 PM
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18. There ain't gonna be enough left of me to have an open casket |
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In fact, if I'm lucky, there won't be enough for a friggin' cat food can.
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Fri Jun-12-09 07:07 PM
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19. My brother's was open casket for family only. I just closed my |
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eyes when I was supposed to look. Just couldn't bare to do it. I probably don't want open casket either. It is very common though, unless the body is disfigured. I am an organ donor anyway. Not sure if that will have anything to do with it.
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Fri Jun-12-09 07:10 PM
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21. I'm an organ donor, because my dad had a kidney transplant (didn't help much) |
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But I don't think it prevents having an open casket.
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Fri Jun-12-09 07:29 PM
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22. Sorry about your dad. Is he still living? |
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I wasn't sure if donating your organs prevented an open casket or not. I guess I don't see why it would though. Take what you need and cover me up!
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Fri Jun-12-09 07:40 PM
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24. No, he died when I was 19 |
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He had been sick since I was 7. He had strep throat that traveled and destroyed his kidneys. Totally freak thing.
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Fri Jun-12-09 07:43 PM
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25. Wow!! Sorry about that. That is tough. |
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Fri Jun-12-09 07:56 PM
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26. Thanks -- I mean, it definitely influenced my life and the way I think a lot |
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But it's something I grew up with. He did amazingly well considering.
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Fri Jun-12-09 09:44 PM
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you are in error. we irish are supposed to get bloody piss-drunk and tell stories about the recently absent.
what's the difference between an irish wedding and and irish wake? one less drunk at the wake.
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Fri Jun-12-09 01:55 PM
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8. The film is a masterpiece, though |
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I was the same age as those boys were portrayed as being, and I did go around singing "Have Gun, Will Travel" and wondering what Goofy was. I made up stories and idolized my older brother (thank God, he didn't die young, though). On the other hand, I didn't give a hoot about Annette's tits. Tommy Kirk and Fabian were my fantasies. :D
I haven't watched it since River Phoenix died. What a tragic waste.
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Fri Jun-12-09 03:38 PM
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9. I say you sue King for making up all kinds of wrong shit!!! |
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then sit alone for a while and pout.
Then when you are through, pick up the book "the stand" read from cover to cover and then you will understand that anything that has ever been portrayed in movie form of Kings work is only a mild to bad depiction at best of the written work.
There have been a few good "adaption's" of his work, but all are a far cry from the originals.
Biggest cop out ever? in the movie Misery, she breaks his ankles with s sledge hammer. Horrible yes, but nothing has horrible as to what happened in the book.
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Fri Jun-12-09 07:38 PM
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23. Oh, man, "Misery" was INTENSE. |
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What a book!
And Kubrick's "The Shining" was an incredible disappointment after having read the book. Haven't seen any of the adaptations of "The Stand", but maybe I should read that book again...
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Fri Jun-12-09 04:26 PM
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12. oh, hush now, that's not the point. |
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You aren't supposed to over-analyze it, you know.
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Fri Jun-12-09 04:56 PM
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Maybe he was out of town, maybe it was a closed casket, maybe his parents didn't want him to see his brother's body.
In fact, the story bears out that he did not see his brother's body, and that was the motivating factor that drove him so hard in the end, as he tried to understand death and the randomness of life.
Go analyze Tom Sawyer (the song) and tell me if you find anything other than banal, pretentious nonsense in it. :P
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Fri Jun-12-09 10:03 PM
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29. I think "Tom Sawyer" is Neil Peart admitting he's a perpetual little boy at heart. |
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Sure would explain a lot of his lyrics, wouldn't it? :hide:
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