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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 01:42 AM
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Do Bush's facial expressions give away his lies?
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 01:45 AM by elperromagico
I seem to recall reading somewhere that one of the sure signs of deception that investigators look for is a facial expression where the eyebrows are pulled together and a wrinkle is formed above the nose. It's called a microexpression, I believe.

Anyway, I was watching a clip of a Bush speech recently, and I thought I saw Bush make this microexpression. Has anybody else ever heard of it, and is it a sure sign that he's lying? We know he's lying, but does it show on his face?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 01:48 AM
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1. I suspect people tend to smirk when they lie
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 01:48 AM
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2. Another Explanation
Unfortunately, I think there's another explanation for that particular expression. It also appears when a person is trying to be sure they recite a script correctly, sing a song correctly or make a speech correctly -- i.e., anything involving the recitation of words, as opposed to the speaking of words extemporaneously.

In either case, it's pretty funny the secret is now out. I've personally watched Bush do this since the 2000 campaign -- it started about the same time he got some coaching and stopped smirking in public. Now, you'll see him start to smirk, and he'll drop into that knitted-brow expression.

Kinda like watching a puppet, eh?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 01:51 AM
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4. But he does it when speaking off the cuff too.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 01:57 AM
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6. "Off the Cuff"?
I don't think Bushie speaks off the cuff, truly off the cuff, very often. He did it in the MTP interview with Russert, and looked like a superficial moron.

My point is, I think Bush is reciting scripts just about all the time, when he's on camera or appears in public. I think he must have an acting coach, and the Pubbie suits must work with Bush, very closely, to achieve the modicum of presentability he has achieved.

I personally think Bush's public appearances have all been scripted, since the middle of 2000. Handlers govern everything. When they don't, he looks like he did with Russert. A gibbering moron.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 02:18 AM
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7. Well yes, he has a set of all-purpose lines he uses for any question.
"Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who gassed his own people" is one example.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 01:50 AM
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3. Chimps sphincter puckers
every time he lies. So the fucker puckers like a mother trucker.
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 01:52 AM
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5. it makes sense
most people look to thier left, dart thier eyes around the room, or whatnot, its different for every person, one thing that CANT be changed though is, people's pupils diolate(sp?) when they know thier lying, thats where the whole 'look me in the eyes' thing came from.

-LK
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DemPoliticalJunkie Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 02:37 AM
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8. I have always noticed it too! It's not just the smirk, it's combined
with a bit of a squint. Don't know how to explain it but it's always when he says something that is insincere and obviously a lie that I can spot immediately.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 02:49 AM
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9. do you think
The chimp is smart enough to know he's lying?


Cher
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:23 AM
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10. Since most everything he says is a lie...
Does he ever manifest any significant variation of facial expression?
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:35 AM
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11. If his lips move...
then it s a lie.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:02 AM
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12. No. But I see how it is easy to make that mistake. He always
has that dumb-assed smirk on his face. When his lips move he lies. So it is easy to think one is a result of the other.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:44 AM
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13. everytime he has a facial expression
he is lying.
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