NJmaverick
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Sun Jul-19-09 10:03 AM
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and Star Wars dies not with a bang, but a whimper |
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Sun Jul-19-09 11:14 AM
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1. Could we use this as evidence to lock Lucas up |
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so we don't have his continuity-destroying "influence" on the live-action TV series? Please?
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Deja Q
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Sun Jul-19-09 11:58 AM
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2. Great. George Lucas now has an idea for the 7th movie... just great... |
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:25 PM
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9. Vader dancing was too much, my heart hurts |
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:07 PM
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3. Damn. I knew Lucas' integrity disappeared decades ago, but I didn't know it was gone entirely. |
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I thought he had at least a little bit of it left.
This is an abomination.
Makes me wonder why I ever fucking bothered to care about Star Wars, since the creator clearly couldn't give a shit.
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:07 PM
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4. Maybe he'll team up with JJ Abrams for the next installment... |
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Which will prove how SW could indeed become much worse, if - before 30 minutes ago - was even fathomable...
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:12 PM
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5. Yes! An alternate Star Wars, in which Han is a Jedi, Luke marries Chewie, and C3PO is a terminator |
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Let him do to Star Wars what the fucking piece of shit did to Star Trek, which is to utterly fucking ruin it and make one wonder, "Why did I ever bother to care, since clearly the people in charge don't give a fucking shit about it?"
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:15 PM
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...just about appealing to fickle mass audiences and not being true to the genre if it means losing even a nickel. Most audiences can't be bothered to think of that core essential either... (not to mention, many in the mass audiences still had no clue what the 'atlernate timeline' was about -- they couldn't have said it any simpler than that for crying out loud!! Just another reason why mainstream audiences and anything requiring intellect is a bad mix.)
And the worst part is, these remakes aren't even parodies. They're real life.
True de-evolution. :(
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:31 PM
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12. Star Trek was boss, I loved it |
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I'm not a summer release kind of girl, I liked their explanation and thought the movie was well done.
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Sun Jul-19-09 01:16 PM
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20. Oh, it was well made (sales of beer, cell phones, and convertibles probably went up too) |
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Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 01:17 PM by Deja Q
but the flaw is that the material underneath the gloss is nothing like Star Trek.
They could have put in the Sesame Street characters, with Captain Elmo no less, and it still would have made big bucks.
Part of me likes the explanation (it's a clever end-run to get around all the nuances that made Trek unique in the first place, but that's also its problem - because they turned it into a straight-faced parody of its former self in the process. It's a double-edged sword.) It's like replacing Walter Cronkite with Katie Couric and still calling it "The CBS Evening News"... :yoiks:
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Mon Jul-20-09 07:52 AM
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As did the vast majority of Star Trek fans that I know.
I suspect some of the naysayers here are just mad that their brilliant spec scripts for a new "Blake's Seven" series haven't been picked up by a Hollywood agent yet.
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Sun Jul-19-09 05:13 PM
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23. I once read a great article about how most of the 70s Young Turk directors fizzled out. |
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Coppola got a long entry all about how exhausting "Apocalypse Now" was, and some of his bad business and artistic moves since then.
Lucas got a single sentence "He's more machine now than man, twisted and evil."
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:16 PM
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7. The one question that keeps coming to mind, why did he kill |
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Padme at the end of Star Wars 3? It was a glaring error in continuity. Why not instead go for an anguishing scene in which Padme is forced to choose which child stays with her possibly to be found by Anakin and which will be hidden away safely by Obi Wan?
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:23 PM
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8. Error in continuity? No error that I know of. Please explain. |
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:30 PM
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10. In Jedi, Leia talks about her real mother |
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Luke asks her at the Ewok village if she remembers her real mother. Leia's response is "she was very beautiful, but sad." With the stupid prequels it doesn't make any GD sense for Padme to die in labor. It pisses my off eternally that Lucas didn't even bother to have consistency in his own story.
Lucas hates Star Wars fans.
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:31 PM
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Sun Jul-19-09 01:12 PM
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18. She probably has some kind of stupid Jedi early memory bullshit if needed |
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Mon Jul-20-09 07:56 AM
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30. Well, in all fairness she did see her mom for, like, two seconds |
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And she was beautiful. And sad.
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Mon Jul-20-09 09:57 AM
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31. I believe that Leia was talking about her adopted mother |
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I don't think that she was talking about her real mother, Padme.
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:36 PM
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13. Despite this "attraction," Star Wars as loved by so many is far from dead. |
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My nephew turns six years old tomorrow and has been a huge fan of the original Star Wars movie since he was four and old enough to grasp the most basic elements of it. He is cared for three days out of the week by my mother, an original Trekkie (in all of its incarnations) and BSG and Star Wars fan. My nephews birthday gifts at his party tomorrow include a seven-foot-tall Darth Vader promotional cutout that my parents bought, no doubt on e-bay or from a collector someplace, an original Star Wars lunch box, some new SW action figures, and my brother's entire, original collection of Star Wars action figures that he's been "saving" since he was himself six years old and saw the original movie (more than once) with Mom and me in a northeastern Oklahoma movie theater.
George Lucas can do whatever the hell he wants to do with his original Star Wars idea; some of it, his fans will like and some of it they won't (I don't consider myself a SW fan, though I'm married to one and surrounded by them in my family).
I'm just sayin': there's a basic, intriguing concept buried (now deeply) within the SW franchise that even Lucas himself cannot ruin. My almost-six-year-old nephew is proof.
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:43 PM
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15. My kids 6 and 7 love the original 3 |
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we just pretend that the prequels don't exist
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:48 PM
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My mom always has to be Lea and my nephew gets to be Luke. At five, he doesn't understand the whole "darkness"/Darth Vader thing, but it's open enough to interpretation that DV isn't frightening. My nephew's take on DV is, "Something bad must have happened to make him to so mean." Of course, he's led in a liberal way of thinking by my mom and most likely also by my brother, but I don't think it's a "bad" thing for little kids to ponder archetypes or consider more deeply why people behave as they do. :hi:
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Sun Jul-19-09 12:37 PM
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14. I lasted about 2 minutes - has anyone watched all *12*? |
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Sun Jul-19-09 01:13 PM
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19. You missed the star wars women doing Spice Girls |
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Sun Jul-19-09 08:18 PM
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26. I made it about half way through |
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Sun Jul-19-09 01:10 PM
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17. How can things like this happen? Who pays money for this kind of shit? |
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Sun Jul-19-09 04:30 PM
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21. Oh lighten up, you bunch of assholes |
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This silly shit is par for the course, evidenced by the Star Wars Holiday Special and those Ewok flicks.
Go watch a Scorsese film.
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Sun Jul-19-09 04:32 PM
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22. For some reason the first thing to come to mind when I saw the title was Reagan's wet dream |
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Edited on Sun Jul-19-09 04:34 PM by Wapsie B
and not the movie.
edit: (The missile defense shield program)
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Sun Jul-19-09 06:14 PM
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24. I see more excitement and better acting here than in the last three movies combined. n/t |
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Sun Jul-19-09 06:39 PM
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25. Kinda reminds me of what Rob Zombie's Halloween did to the original Halloween. |
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Sun Jul-19-09 08:37 PM
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27. Somebody give me a melon baller so I can scoop out my eyes just in case I ever accidentally click |
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on that link again.
And just listen to the morons in the crowd squealing with delight watching this crap.
lulz
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Mon Jul-20-09 06:27 AM
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28. I really was baffled over who would enjoy that drek |
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