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Thu Mar-25-04 08:35 PM
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WHICH evil DUers have you MET live in person? |
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Time once again for that thread. I have met youngred, twice. How about you, which DUers have you met? :)
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:36 PM
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jonnyblitz, prolesunited, KG, boilerbabe, and some others. I forget who.
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:36 PM
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2. eyesroll, Blue-Jay, Bushfire, Dragonlady, Random Koolzip, prolesunited, |
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:36 PM
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3. None, unfortunately... |
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but I hope to someday. I might even plan a vacation around going to some big event within a days' drive of Vegas, IF I can ever get my financial house in order to afford such a thing.
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:37 PM
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4. Well, if I hadn't gotten sick, I would have met the Chicago DU'ers. |
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I got a nasty cold around the time of the get together,
Maybe another time. I'd like to meet them.
Terry
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:48 PM
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you should try to attend the next NY gathering, if there is one..
I love the Bay Area DUers!! :loveya:
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:37 PM
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6. I met Al1Florida (I think that's his screen name) |
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while standing in line to see Al Franken in Clayton, MO last September. Someone who dislikes Bush as much as I do!
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:37 PM
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As in, I've never met anyone else from DU in person. Duckie
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:38 PM
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..but then she moved away :-(
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:39 PM
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9. dolo amber and rainbowgrrl |
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:39 PM
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10. Jeez...too many to list! |
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I'd miss someone if I tried to list them all. I'm looking forward to meeting some more on April 25th.
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:40 PM
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:44 PM
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14. Cool! Looking forward to it! |
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17. yeah maybe you guys can make me more of a talker |
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Sun Mar-28-04 04:37 AM
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Speaking of folks we've met...
We might be going further, and moving out your way in a year or so. Gotta get somewhere that gas is lower than 3 or 4 dollars a gallon, as it's likely to hit this summer here in SoCal. Texas may be freeper central, but it's cheap to live there.
I"ve now met groups of DUers in Texas, SoCal, and the Southeast. I think my list of EvilDUers is up over 50 or 60 at this point. Although Travelin' Will Pitt has the record, I'm sure.
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:40 PM
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12. PassingFair is my best friend ever! |
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I see her as much as we can get away with. :hi:
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:43 PM
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13. Only Youngred and 2SailsGirls |
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Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 08:44 PM by Lizz612
But I plan on meeting more on the 25th!
DUH! And 2SailsGirls, but thats cause I was the one that introduced her to DU. She lives down the hall from me.
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:47 PM
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15. wow, there is no way I could remember them all |
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Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 08:47 PM by arcane1
but the ones I have seen the most are:
Proud Patriot Terwilliger Willy T Hell Hath No Fury Cally Tinoire Noiretblu Jack Rabbit Grandma Bear WillPitt Sasquach
and there have been many many others, sorry if I forgot your name :)
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:15 PM
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30. Add brother buzz , GregW , RichM |
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socialdemocrat, and symbolman..
hey arcane1
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:17 PM
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and kurukami, sffreeways, mz pip, sfwriter, scaramouche, and on and on and on....
bay area Duers rule :)
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Fri Mar-26-04 01:50 AM
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72. also Elementary Penguin |
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:think: TahitiNut :think:
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Sun Mar-28-04 12:42 PM
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and damn now I'm in the same hot water for my faulty memory.
We had our DU friend from Australia(?) and that charming couple which came from LA for a protest.
Oh and TENDER! Who could forget Tender? Not me, lol.
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:52 PM
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18. I just know I'm gonna forget someone |
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Will Pitt GOPisEvil flush_bush bluestateguy sonias bearfan el_gato PDittie XNASA mermaid Skittles KCDem Txlib Interbytes or Intersucks...forget which *embarassed look* GloriaSmith NoPasaran SilasSoule everyone who was at the big meetup for Will last September - I'm so bad with names
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:53 PM
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:00 PM
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22. Yup, and I'm already thinking of people I forgot |
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Like Blue Collar efhmc (god I hope I got that right) silverlib the other folks at the Super Bowl party at bearfan's house
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:28 PM
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34. You did indeed. That was a great experience and I hope I can be apart of |
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another one now that I have both daughters in Austin. BTW, did you say you were a precinct chair? What district are you in?
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Thu Mar-25-04 08:54 PM
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hope to meet HeYHEY in Van in May. Come to beautiful BC in the Spring!
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:00 PM
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21. William Pitt, SilasSoule, KCDem, GOPisEvil, TXlib, |
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and a some others, in Austin Texas. A great bunch of people !
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28. OH YEAH AND THIS WEETCH NAMED VELMA |
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who by the way, guys, is a very pretty gal. How's that you tart ??? :D
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:18 PM
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You are a sweetie-pie.
And it's slut...not tart...slut. ;-)
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I got that from my grandmother - she called me a tart because one time when I was a teenager I had two boyfriends. Funny, after she passed away my mum found out she was two months old when her parents got married. WHO YOU CALLING TART ??? :7
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Mon Mar-29-04 01:42 AM
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100. How 'bout "brazen strumpet" |
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wanton trollop watery bint (what's the movie reference???) saucy harlot poxy slattern
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:01 PM
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23. ZombyWoof and KadeCarrion |
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ZW qualifies.... Kade is too sweet to be called evil...
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:02 PM
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24. None yet. But I should be there April 25. n/t |
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Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 09:28 PM by greatauntoftriplets
XNASA ProfessorGAC The Magistrate prolesunited Blue-Jay SusanG mkuhl antiwarwarrior chiburb flush_bush hedda_foil mopinko scubadude babette mohinoaklawnillinois God_bush_n_cheney termite DustMolecule rschod chinagirl forradalom wndycty
ACK! Know I am forgetting some.
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:04 PM
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I won't make a list of DU handles, because I remember most of them as their given names after meeting them. I met some wonderful people in Bloomington IN when Will Pitt was there speaking. Drank many beers with the Chicago contingent at the last meet-up, and did tequila shots with "Whitacre D_WI" and his lovely wife "eyesroll" in my own town.
Each meeting with DUers has been very positive and I look forward to many more. (OK, the tequila shots are NEVER a good idea, in retrospect)
If/when we win in November (lord willin' and the creek don't rise), I demand a National DU gathering!
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:18 PM
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33. ah, a national DU summit in Vegas or somewhere like that? |
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somewhere that's relatively cheap from everywhere..
sounds like a plan!!
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:15 PM
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29. North Florida DUers are very isolated, even in Gainesville |
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When I'm home in Lakeland it's even worse.
I've met several freepers though. I try not to talk politics with them. They get too angry.
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:31 PM
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Then again, we go to the same school.... :)
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:33 PM
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Roughly in order...
cluedin PROUDemocRAT fromsmalltownAmerica ZenLefty :beer: sierra_moon KadeCarrion :loveya: Desertrose :hug: Astarho geniph :yourock: Johnyawl :beer: LisaM AmyStrange 9215 Catshrink :hi:
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:46 PM
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42. Whatever happened to Cluedin? |
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I know she and her husband were going to move back to NY - and I haven't seen hide nor hair of her around here for a looooooong time.
Not that I'm on all the time... my life is too "full" :(
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Sun Mar-28-04 05:05 AM
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Sorry about that! I'm suprised though - I had no idea they were "like that" - sounds like they were hanging out on the wrong board.
For what it's worth - I would have bought you some beers! :) I don't get to Seattle much, though. I HATE driving over there because I don't know where the hell I'm going and the traffic is terrible enough when you DO know where the fuck you're going. Living in Roslyn has made it even worse - no traffic, and I don't really drive much anymore since I'm in walking distance from work.
Sorry you had a bad experience with them - that sucks.
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Sun Mar-28-04 03:49 PM
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but doesn't have time to post. She's doing well.
I've attended a DU gathering with her where many of us had a few refreshments and she was continually kind and thoughtful. She paid for most of the refreshments at that gathering.
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Mon Mar-29-04 01:18 AM
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98. Cool. I liked her and Roger. |
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That Loren guy though! What an ass! }( Ha haaaa - just kiddin'! :spank:
Hi Michelle! :hi: If you see this - hope NY is treating you well!
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Mon Mar-29-04 04:25 AM
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102. I had the privilege of meeting Mr and Mrs Cluedin in Seattle last year…. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 04:26 AM by socialdemocrat1981
We had a wonderful few days together and she and her husband did a great job of showing me the sights and landmarks in the beautiful city of Seattle and also of keeping me entertained and introducing me to fellow DU’ers –as well as some of their circle of friends. I’ve been in touch with her since that time and she is doing well and everything is fine with her.
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:36 PM
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I'm still a relative newbie. Minnesota DUer's are planning a gathering, but the timing doesn't work for me, unfortunately. :cry: Oh well, next time. ;-)
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:41 PM
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39. CatWoman, Terwilliger, enki23, lazarus, onehandle, |
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kodi, newyawker, NYYFan1977 and MrJinx, jawjuh (sp?), more than a few others.
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:43 PM
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40. Is NYYFan still around uly? |
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I havent seen her in a while.
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Thu Mar-25-04 09:46 PM
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41. we exchanged a couple of emails last week |
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I don't know how often she hits DU though.
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:24 PM
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Shes cool despite being a Yankees fan :).
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She is quite cool. :thumbsup:
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:42 PM
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She used to IM me now and then uly, and she was a part of the original DU chat cliche which I was a part of.
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:20 PM
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44. It's getting to be quite a few |
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And maybe more next week :7
Amaya NightTrain JonnyBlitz Curse10 WindRavenX SiobhanClancy Matcom WillPitt DS1 Meegbear StopTheInsanity notmyprez RationalRose
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Thu Mar-25-04 11:10 PM
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plus SiobhanClancy, Zenlefty, Nederland, Hlthe2be, KeepHopeAlive, librechik and I'm sure I'm forgetting some :-)
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Sun Mar-28-04 04:33 PM
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88. All ot SarahBelle's, minus the first 3 on the list, plus |
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Squeech, MUAD_DIB, papau, jmm, SarahBelle (of course), and a few more whose names escape me right now.
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:25 PM
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46. Well, I went to college with MSchreader |
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He first came to DU because of FUNDAY VII. I've also met davsand, khephra, jackssmirkingrevenge (aka doc gonzo), festivito, az, scout, tokenlib, noonwitch, shugah, stagger lee and a couple of others I'm sure I'm forgetting just now. At 47, I'm not as quick on the uptake as I used to be. John It is now 85 days, 12 hours and 36 minutes to FUNDAY X.
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Fri Mar-26-04 01:11 AM
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67. Well I learned something |
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I didn't know who jackssmirkingrevenge REALLY was.
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:25 PM
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47. some of the pittsburghers but not all |
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they are all great people!!!!!
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:30 PM
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48. Will Pitt, curse10, nederland, hitthe2b,zen lefty, otohara, tom_paine |
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and a few more...
I recommend it!
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:34 PM
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50. I met The Magistrate some years back |
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It was one of the happiest days of my life.
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Mon Mar-29-04 12:20 AM
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96. As smart and funny as he is here |
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I know some folks don't get him, and that makes it all the funnier.
Beyond that I defer all questions to Hizzoner, because if I told you what I thought of my honey, he would be terribly embarrassed.
Mmmmmmmmmmagistrate! :loveya:
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:42 PM
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dflprincess, myrna minx, leftist_rebel, GAspnes, dpbrown, Love Bug, HypnoToad, voted4wellstone, and some others I can't think of.
North Dakota DUers I'd like to meet:
markus, ploppy, RC, CocaCola58204, Toliana(sp?), twistedliberal and alexwcovington.
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Thu Mar-25-04 11:00 PM
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56. north dakota has that much? |
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whoa I know south dakota has one.
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Fri Mar-26-04 12:57 AM
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Didn't you forget someone? :-)
In Minnesota, I've met dflprincess, myrna minx, leftist_rebel, GAspnes, dpbrown, MnFats, shockingelk, Northwest, suegeo, goodhue, no name no slogan, and special guest star from Australia, socialdemocrat 1981.
In Oregon I met zizka, Organism, Adam F. Smith, 9215, and depakote_kid.
I must say that the Minnesota group seems more cohesive, though.
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Fri Mar-26-04 01:23 AM
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I could never forget you!!!:):):)
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:57 PM
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54. I pretend I don't know... |
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...depending who's asking
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Thu Mar-25-04 10:59 PM
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55. I met Windansea at a protest once.....I'm kidding |
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his girlfriend would cut me for my name!
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Thu Mar-25-04 11:06 PM
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But maybe sometime there's a Philly gathering, I'll come. :hi:
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Thu Mar-25-04 11:10 PM
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59. God_bush_n_cheney and I met today! |
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Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 11:18 PM by Tripper11
He had asked for a tape of the Gore Vidal Bill Mahar appearance and I had a copy. So we hooked up for a coffee and some talk about his run for Secretary of State and some other fun political talk.
Andy's a great guy and had his act together with all the BBV stuff he's done and some good stories.
I'm also working at getting Andy on KVI here in Seattle for an interview regarding the whole BBV thing and other issues. Hopefully this will happen within the next week or so.
Thanks for that java Andy, next one's on me! :donut:
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Thu Mar-25-04 11:35 PM
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60. None, due to the fact that I'm new to DU and live in Edmonton, AB. |
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78. I think HEyHEY might be living near you. |
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Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 04:21 AM by northwest
I know we have DUers from Calgary, Vancouver and Winnipeg.
I'm 220 miles south of Winnipeg, nyself.
And welcome!!!:hi::hi:
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Fri Mar-26-04 12:11 AM
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61. None of us really exist |
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We are all chatbots created to satisfy Skinner's enormous ego. Just ask the freepers.
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Fri Mar-26-04 12:17 AM
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65. I thought we were all Will Pitt. |
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Fri Mar-26-04 12:13 AM
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62. I competed with Rockymountaindem at a quizbowl tournament in London Ont. |
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But we were unaware of DU membership until I posted about it here.
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Fri Mar-26-04 12:14 AM
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63. I'm in love with AlienGirl |
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And I see her at least once a week. Does that count? :evilgrin:
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Fri Mar-26-04 12:14 AM
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64. No one, but if you're in the area |
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give me a yell!
Oh, the area is South East Queensland, Australia. Thats about halfway up the right hand side, if anyone has a map.
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at the California Democratic Convention in 2002. I can't remember her name, but we talked at bit about DU. But at the time I wasn't real active.
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Fri Mar-26-04 01:22 AM
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69. My wife, another DU "love-connection"! |
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actually we met before DU, a long time before DU... butwe've met on DU. We've been in the same crowd as spiralhawk, but we don't know who he is ( low profile ).
p.s. "gate of the sun" is my wife and no I am not talking about the stone work in south America.
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Fri Mar-26-04 01:46 AM
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71. I've known Spiralhawk for years.... |
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actually turned him on to DU.....
:hi: to gate of the sun...you guys used to live in my town...bet we even crossed paths :)
I live with one DUer- my son- Astarho...my daughter is Kade Carrion & my *other son* is Zomby Woof.....
know some others who post here occasionally...
gosh, everyone seems like family and I feel like I've already met so many here...well some aren't here much anymore...but back in the "early days"...it was one big family...one big pissed off family- that * moved into the WH :sadfrown: so :hi: to all my friends whom I've met in the flesh and the ones I've connected to on a soul level :hug: :loveya: DR
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Fri Mar-26-04 06:20 PM
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74. Short Bus President, Dolo Amber, Phillybri |
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Will Pitt are the ones I've met in person. :D
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Fri Mar-26-04 06:22 PM
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JanMichael, Shakeydave, KG, sunscreened, gyopsy, Jen6, trumad, TRoosevelt.
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Mon Mar-29-04 01:46 AM
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101. Yeah pretty much the same for me... |
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we went to the same DU local gatherings.
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Sun Mar-28-04 04:14 AM
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77. These are the ones that I can remember off hand |
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Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 04:15 AM by socialdemocrat1981
While I thoroughly valued and enjoyed the experience of meeting each and every DU’er I’ve met, I’ll probably leave someone out because I’ve met so many. So please forgive me if I have and know that it was an honour and privilege to meet with you and I hope to have the pleasure of doing so again
1. Laz 2. Haele 3. Cally 4. Proud Patriot 5. Jack Rabbit 6. MzPip 7. Grandma Bear 8. Arcane 9. Scaramouche 10. Tinoire 11. Terwilliger 12. HellHathNoFury and her mother 13. Mr and Mrs Cluedin 14. Lisa M 15. I know the real name of this DU’er but have forgotten the username so please forgive me 16. God, Bush and Cheney (the DU’er and not the actual entities or political figures involved) 17. Myrna Minx 18. Lydia Leftcoast 19. DFLPrincess 20. DPBrown 21. Salin 22. Don G 23. Youngred
And they were all wonderful and thoroughly interesting people and I thoroughly enjoyed and valued my time with them.
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Sun Mar-28-04 05:23 AM
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Zero, zilch, nada. I don't get out much.
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Sun Mar-28-04 03:52 PM
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84. None yet, but it's only a matter of time... |
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Sooner or later, it's bound to happen. :hi:
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Sun Mar-28-04 04:09 PM
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85. youngred, AWD, morningtheft, wetoldyouso, Rhiannon12866 |
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The first two I met at the 10/27 march in DC; the second two got me interested in DU; the last one, I got interested in DU.
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Sun Mar-28-04 04:15 PM
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86. So far, SarahBelle and jonnyblitz. |
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And I should finally meet liberalhistorian some time in May! :bounce:
Oh! I almost forgot. It turns out, DS1 is a UConn student who is involved with the campus radio station, WHUS, where I do my soul music show on Saturday nights. Who knew?
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Mon Mar-29-04 01:02 AM
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That the person here you became closest with is one you have not yet met? I mean, I can kind of understand in a similar, yet different way what that feels like. And DS1 goes to UConn? I had no idea. :wow: Is he on campus or does he commute?
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Sun Mar-28-04 04:29 PM
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87. Well, when I took my son to the |
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March and Rally in D.C. last October, I got to meet a lot of wonderful DUers, among them youngred, jonnyblitz and his sister, Boilerbabe, JohnKleeb, LynneSin (briefly), prolesunited, oaf of office, dancingbear and his wife, nostamj, idon'twantaname, AWD (who's since been tombstoned, why I have no clue at all), veganwitch, and probably a few more I'm forgetting to mention. We all had a blast marching together.
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Sun Mar-28-04 09:31 PM
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Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 09:31 PM by JohnKleeb
I got seperated from Zack and, me, KG, jonny, boilerbabe, and veganwitch were mostly together.
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92. I live with Whitacre D_WI |
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and I've met AnnabelLee, HereSince1628, DragonLady, Blue-Jay, ClassWarrior, bushfire, RandomKoolZip, prolesunited and probably a couple of others I'm missing.
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Sun Mar-28-04 10:21 PM
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Art_from_Ark in Japan, who showed me around the area where he lives and let me be a "guest teacher" at the English conversation school where he teaches.
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Sun Mar-28-04 10:22 PM
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Quite frankly I wish I had the honor. There are alot of good people here.
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Mon Mar-29-04 01:23 AM
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99. In Philly, two years ago |
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Lynne Sin Ramsey Skinner Elad (I think) Will Pitt Khephra Bob Boudelang RBNYC
Several more, too, whom I've forgotten.
I'm looking forward to the get-together later in April, providing no more disasters hit. The past two years have been a dog-bite of a time.
--bkl
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