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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:20 PM
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100 best movie performances, from Primiere magazine.
Some of my very own rank HIGH!1 Especially O'TOOLE as #1. But what, whassisname is way up there for Groundhog Day and NO Barbra -----what's THAT about?!1 Also, weird, Wiki informs that Rupert MURDOCH was the (founder?) of the mag.

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http://www.premiere.com/List/The-100-Greatest-Performances-of-All-Time/The-100-Greatest-Performances-of-All-Time-100-75

The 100 Greatest Performances of All Time



1. Peter O'Toole as T.E. Lawrence
Lawrence of Arabia (1962)

Part of the legend surrounding this mightiest and yet most intimate of epics -- and surrounding O'Toole, who fearlessly and often dazzlingly dominates almost every scene -- is that the role was first offered to both Marlon Brando and Albert Finney. We thank the movie gods that director David Lean spotted O'Toole "playing a silly-ass Englishman in a trout-fishing scene," as he recalled, in the actor's third movie, The Day They Robbed the Bank of England. The measure of what O'Toole, then 30, accomplished is that it's impossible to imagine anyone else in the part. Whether supremely self-confident or querulous, deeply wounded or frighteningly vengeful, O'Toole manages to achieve the many shades of an unfathomable man. And when the time comes to show a shattered Lawrence (after a torture sequence in a Turkish prison, which the expanded 1989 rerelease made all the more suggestive of rape), he does so with heartbreaking frailty. Amid so much tragedy and grandeur, the dark wit in the performance is sometimes forgotten, as when he's promoted to major by a pompous general and patiently rejoins in his plummy English accent, "I don't think that's a very good idea." The shoot was a harsh test in the North African desert (though he and costar Omar Sharif often fled to Beirut for drinking bouts), and the last shots were made with O'Toole's feet soaking in an ice bucket in a Jeep. He would say good-naturedly that the role haunted him for the rest of his life (indeed, having lost the Oscar to Gregory Peck in To Kill a Mockingbird, he was jinxed with six more nominations but no wins before getting an honorary statuette when he was 70). Thus he would say of the experience (during which he was knocked out twice, sprained both ankles, and dislocated his spine), "I was obsessed. . . . I spent two years and three months thinking about nothing but Lawrence. Day after day. It was bad for me. It killed my acting later on." Whatever the cost, his pal Richard Burton rightly included him among "the odd few men and women who, once or twice in a lifetime, elevate (acting) into something odd and mystical and deeply disturbing."

3. Meryl Streep as Sophie Zawistowska
Sophie's Choice (1982)

4. Al Pacino as Sonny Wortzik
Dog Day Afternoon (1975)

9. Gene Wilder as Dr. Frederick Frankenstein
Young Frankenstein (1974)

12. Jack Nicholson as "Badass" Buddusky
The Last Detail (1973)

36. Faye Dunaway Evelyn Cross Mulwray
Chinatown (1974)

47. Jack Nicholson as Randle Patrick McMurphy
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)

69. Gloria Swanson as Norma Desmond
Sunset Boulevard (1950)

74. Madeline Kahn as Lili von Shtupp
Blazing Saddles (1974)

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:03 PM
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1. "It was as though Hamlet died in the First Act."
The Peter O'TOOLE syndrome of not being given the Oscar. It was also touching when he was informed he was going to be given an "honorary" one at age 70. He said, "Oh, no? There's still time for me to EARN one, isn't there?!1"


It's not that he didn't do great things in many later roles, just that it's hard to top something like that Big one when it's the FIRST one. The quote about Hamlet dying in the First Act was said about TCHAKOVSKY's Piano Concerto, with the magnificent opening theme.


It's also the Harper LEE syndrome, that she couldn't top herself. Plus, ironically, O'TOOLE lost the Oscar to Harper LEE's character.
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:46 PM
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3. I'd like to add my honorable mention of Jay Robinson
His portray of Caligula in "The Robe"
and its immediate sequel,
"Demetrius and the Gladiators"
dripped of evil.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 08:51 PM
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38. Gosh, is that the one where the gladiator hurls the spear at the emperor? Memories!1 n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:08 PM
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27. And O'Toole was so much better than that stiff Gregory Peck
I know calling Peck a stiff is heresy,
but it is the truth.
He was so wooden, he should have played a tree.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 08:52 PM
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39. I know, but Greg was a super Lib. n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:14 PM
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42. I know about , and appreciate, that...
but still...
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:44 PM
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2. I see they put the usual unbearably awful and hackneyed Streep performances in there...
...that woman has the biggest scam going...she's dreadful.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:22 PM
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7. No.
I can't think of any objective or even subjective standard by which anyone could argue she is anything other than the greatest film actor of all time by such a large margin that second place isn't visible from where she sits.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:26 PM
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9. Yes...she is the most calculating, mannered, dishonest actress around...
...the worst of her generation...thousands better than her.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:27 PM
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10. Did i not see Vivien Leigh in GWTW?
A miscarriage if she was missed.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:07 PM
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41. Totally. Any actor should demand whatever mental illness she was on. n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:19 PM
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45. Thanks for posting. That was really interesting. There are so many movies I have not yet seen.
Especially older ones.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:27 PM
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11. No.
She's the best. Ask any of those thousands you think are better.

As for dishonest and calculating, that's what an actor is. You want honest and clueless, watch a reality show.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:30 PM
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12. Yes, she's the worst...unbearable to watch...let me start...
Sally Field, Jane Fonda, Gena Rowlands...just to name the living...even Cher.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:34 PM
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14. Any of those would say Streep is the absolute best.
Seriously, iconoclasm has to have something to work with. You can't claim water isn't wet.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:36 PM
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15. Let's agree to disagree...and...
you can agree I'm right.

And don't get me started about them including Nicole Kidman on there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:38 PM
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17. But Kidman was great in "To Die For" AKA the only Van Sant movie worth a damn
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:43 PM
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18. NOOOOOOOOOO! She was unbearable! This was Gus' WORST movie
Absolute worst!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:50 PM
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19. No, it's his best movie...
and I have always assumed that was in large part due to Buck Henry.
I just find Van Sant's work to be tedious. If I'm in the mood for the homoerotic by a chickenhawk, I watch Kenneth Anger's films.
Now, he's a genius.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:54 PM
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22. Nicole Kidman? I'm sorry I bothered you.
I didn't realize you were just incapable of understanding acting. There's no shame in that, really. Some people don't understand satire, some people aren't tall enough to slam dunk, and some people can't understand acting. It's cool. I thought it was just bad taste, but it's more of a disability. :P
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:16 PM
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44. I can't remember much about Meryl's acting in Sophie's Choice" but I've
just seen her in "It's Complicated" and "Julia & Julie" and she was masterful in both roles.
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 06:56 PM
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53. Delete
Edited on Mon Aug-02-10 06:56 PM by S_E_Fudd
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 03:53 PM
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4. any list that doesn't have George C Scott as Patton in the top 10 is shit
very few actors have owned a part that well.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:43 PM
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48. It's there. n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:03 PM
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5. Where the fuck is Robert Mitchum as Rev Harry Powell AND Max Cady?
And besides that, any ranking that doesn't include William Holden in Stalag 17 and The Wild Bunch is even more bogus.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:09 PM
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6. I also realized that list doesn't include Peter Lorre in M
They got some of them right, but they also got so many wrong.
Nice to see they didn't overlook Sranwyck in Double Indemnity, but they should have included her performance in The Lady Eve.
Johnny Depp? He's pretty and all, but give me a break.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:04 PM
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25. My mistake...they DID include Lorre in M
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:25 PM
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8. Not bad. Too light on some great supporting roles.
I'd have put Martin Landeau in "Ed Wood" ahead of at least a few in that list.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:36 PM
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16. Hell, I would put Alex Rocco and Richard Castellana in "The Godfather"
ahead of several in that list.
And I would also do the same for Landau.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:31 PM
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13. At least Richard Gere isn't on the list. n/m
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:58 PM
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24. I have always said that Gere's good looks lead people to overlook his talent
He was great in "Days of Heaven" and "American Gigolo"
and in some other roles
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:11 PM
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28. When I saw Days of Heaven I walked out of the theater.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:17 PM
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30. I've heard that from other people...
I was shocked when I realized that many people don't like Terence Malick's movies. Mrs mitchum is one of them :)
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:01 PM
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40. I walked out of Jane FONDA in Barefoot in the Park IN VIETNAM BEFORE she went to Hanoi
She was SHRIEKING and no matter how we didn't have any sex for a year I didn't want that crap with that character. And I've never liked any Neil SIMON crap ever since.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:15 PM
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29. Have you checked out the Criterion 50% off sale at Barnes and Noble?
Days of Heaven (Blu-ray and regular) are just $20 now. I think the sale ends this weekend, though.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:19 PM
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31. Thanks for the heads up!
I think I even have a Barnes and Noble gift card lying around. Somewhere.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:38 PM
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35. I picked up the Blu-rays for that one, "M" and "8 1/2."
:D
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:00 PM
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20. My favorite movie of all time
General Murray: I can't make out whether you're bloody bad-mannered or just half-witted.
T.E. Lawrence: I have the same problem, sir.

T.E. Lawrence: There may be honor among thieves, but there's none in politicians.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:25 PM
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21. Bogus list...
any list like that that fails to include Martin Landau as Bela Lugosi in "Ed Wood" is a bogus list.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:55 PM
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23. .
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:14 PM
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43. & Liza in Cabaret?!1 And Micael YORK (sounding like James MASON) n/t
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 10:09 PM by UTUSN
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:05 PM
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26. Where is Michael Caine as "Alfie"?
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:30 PM
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32. If my count was right, I've seen 39 of them.
I was just curious.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:10 PM
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50. Wow!1 n/t
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 08:53 PM
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57. I counted 39 too. Although I have no doubt it was not the same ones.
My favorite movie (including the actors) is African Queen with Bogart and Hepburn is not on this list. But got to give it is Bette Davis in almost anything she did.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:36 PM
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33. Madaleine Kahn and Burl Ives in any movie.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:42 PM
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34. My favorite quote from Lawrence is not from Peter O'Toole
Auda abu Tayi: I am Auda abu Tayi! Does Auda serve?
Howeitat tribesmen: NO!
Auda abu Tayi: Does Auda abu Tayi serve?
Howeitat tribesmen: NO!
Auda abu Tayi: I carry twenty-three great wounds, all got in battle. Seventy-five men have I killed with my own hands in battle. I scatter, I burn my enemies' tents. I take away their flocks and herds. The Turks pay me a golden treasure, yet I am poor! Because I am a river to my people!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:43 PM
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36. Brad Dourif - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest
as Billy Bibbet - freaking stunning
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 08:34 PM
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37. No Klaus Kinski for "Aquirre" or "Woytek"
bogus bogus bogus
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:32 PM
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46. Here's My List...
Daniel Day Lewis - There Will Be Blood - This is a stunning performance. Perhaps the best I've seen.
Jessica Lang - Frances
Jack Nicholson - Ironweed
Marlon Brando - On The Waterfront

Best Love Scene - The Postman Always Rings Twice
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:45 PM
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49. Jessica is on the list for that or something. Marlon too. n/t
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:41 PM
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47. Daniel-Day Lewis should be on there for Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood
It would be number one on my list, personally. (DDL did make the list for My Left Foot and Gangs of New York.)

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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 11:45 AM
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51. Totally missed the point on "Dirty Harry"
Matter of fact, I don't think they watched the God damn film:

And I quote:
92. Clint Eastwood as "Dirty" Harry Callahan
Dirty Harry (1971)

Who but Eastwood could calmly, convincingly walk through a shootout, deliberately chewing his lunch the whole time without breaking a sweat, and still appear gallant? And make us share his glee as he pushes down on a screaming suspect's bullet wound? It's easy to forget that Harry Callahan is a bigoted cop who enjoys torturing suspects, and instead revel in Eastwood's scorching combination of rebel cool and controlled venom. Frank Sinatra, the original choice for Harry, might have pulled off his suaveness, but no one could have matched the acidic, effortless rage that made Eastwood's Harry a film icon.


Make us share his glee? Enjoys torturing suspects?

That is 180 degrees opposite the reality of that scene. Harry is not gleeful. He has in mind that Scorpio has already killed a child, and a cop,and a young woman, shot his partner, beat on Harry, and has kidnapped a young girl who, if alive (alas) could be saved if Harry can find out where she is buried.

In all of Eastwood's pissed off and angry characters, there's nothing like this crazy-rage look he puts forth in the torture scene. Seen from Scorpio's perspective, is this a portrayal of glee?



It's also not shot to have the audience 'share his glee' as the music, the camera angles, and finally the camera hauling ass out of the stadium fleeing the scene of the crime allows the audience to escape.

Rebel cool?

C'mon. Callahan is a disillusioned square who breaks rules to get the job done, not to free his spirit or some such. He's a company man, frustrated by company policy.


Here's the torture scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VFcE54VLe0&feature=related






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mikeSchmuckabee Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 03:27 PM
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52. /i clicked on the link and the first name
was Malcolm McDowell as Alexander DeLarge. But it was #100?!

WTF!
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S_E_Fudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 06:57 PM
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54. Denzel as Trip in "Glory"
Should be on that list...
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 08:22 PM
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55. If there was a #101 I would put Charlize Theron in "Monster"
What an incredible performance.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 08:33 PM
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56. Russell Crowe in A Beautiful Mind
should have been on the list, in my opinion. I thought his performance was superb.
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