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battleknight24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:12 PM
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I have a few questions for any fitness buffs here on DU...
I've starting working out on regular basis for the past several weeks... I'm not trying to become a muscle man that you see on the cover of FLEX magazine... my goals are just decent muscle tone and good general fitness...

1. I'm definitely not fat, but how do I get rid of my gut and develop a six pack?

2. What about supplements?... I already take a daily multi-vitamin... I read muscle and fitness magazines and see endless advertisements for shakes, candy bars, pills, etc... which should I try? Which should I stay away from? Should I just forget about them and watch what I eat?

Peace,


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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:16 PM
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1. Well, I've lost 125 pounds in 2 years...
through sensible eating and exercising. Done it without suppliments. Do take a daily multivitamin though.

As for the 6 pack abs there are 2 things you have to do. One, work out your abs to develop the muscles. And two, lose enough weight overall so that they show.

Working your abs specifically does not make you lose weight on your stomach. Any time you burn calories it's an all-over kind of thing. What it does is build up the muscles so that when you lose the flab on top of them you have nice looking abs to show. But you have to balance your diet and exercise so that you lose the weight.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:16 PM
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2. Warning: No expert
But I know by experience the best way to reduce the belly and move into a six pack is by doing ab crunches and oblique crunches. Also watching what you eat is important, cut extra fats and sugars concentrate on proteins.

Never messed with the pills and stuff so I'm not sure about them. I know the protein shakes are very popular for weight training and "bulk".

But yes, crunches, crunches, and more crunches!! As well as overall aerobic fitness excersise like walking, jogging, bike. It took me around 2 months to see real results.

I'm no expert though...

kick
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:17 PM
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3. "A Flat Stomach ASAP" by Ellington Darden
Very good book for overall fitness training and diet.
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:51 PM
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4. fitness
1. Losing your gut. OK, the first thing you need to know is, there is no such thing as "spot training." This means, you lose fat from all over your body at once; if you exercise your abs, you're not "focussing" fat loss on your midsection. You'll need to do abdominal exercises to get that sixpack you're looking for, but spending your whole day doing crunches isn't going to do much for your body fat levels.

You'll probably want a three-tiered approach: cardio, weight-lifting, and nourishment. For cardio, I recommend twenty minutes or more in the morning, before breakfast; this way, your system will be burning more fat for the energy you need. If fat loss is your goal, it's probably wiser to use a stationary bike than to go cycling outdoors, because outdoors you'll have to be watching out for cars, stopping at stop signs and traffic lights, etc. Running can be done outdoors or on a treadmill.

Weight-lifting... Nobody wants to look like the Flex models, but, surprisingly, their kind of training will help you achieve your goals better than any Pilates or aerobics classes. If you put on an ounce of muscle, that ounce will be burning calories 24 hours a day; and fat loss takes place when you burn more calories than you consume. So what you want to do is pretty much the same moves as the musclebound.

You'll want to do large movements, that incorporate two or more joints moving, at a weight that is challengingly heavy. Things like squats and bench-presses, big macho things; the "two joints" rule is a good guideline, for a bench press you'll be moving your elbows and your shoulders, for something less helpful, like a curl, you'd only be moving your elbow.

In a few weeks' time, you'll probably want to start doing a "body-part split," where you work out certain body parts on certain days; but I wouldn't worry about that yet. For now, give yourself a routine that starts with large muscle groups and moves down to smaller ones -- start with your thighs and end with your abs, in other words. You want to start with the things that take the most energy and end with the things that take the least.

For the actual six-pack, the conventional wisdom is to ignore sit-ups and focus on crunches, being sure to move slowly and without momentum, so it's your risus abdominus that's doing all the work. I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'm actually a big fan of those wheelie things; don't bother to order one or buy it from a store, just get yourself a rubber wheel and a rod and a pair of bicycle handlebar grips, altogether it's under five dollars.

As for nutrition: eat well, cut down on fats, add some high-quality protein. There are just a lot of tips that you can use, a lot of tricks to learn; instead of making yourself a five-egg omelette, use 4 eggs' worth of egg whites (available cheap in a carton at your grocery store) and one fresh egg, with yolk. That kind of thing.


2. The supplement industry is rather insane, isn't it?

The answer is probably that you shouldn't worry too much about it. You will want a little bit of extra protein, since your body is now trying to build new muscle cells. Don't overdo it. Buy yourself some whey protein isolate powder (I recommend vanilla or unflavored ONLY, the chocolate/strawberry/pineapple flavors are gagworthy), mix a scoop in with some orange juice once a day, possibly twice, between meals.

If you have specific health needs, or if you're past a certain age, then there are certain supplements that it would make a lot of sense to take.

Later, if you get more intensely involved in the lifting, I'd recommend you start taking some creatine; and if you get more intensely involved with the cardio, you'll probably want some kind of recovery drink, like a high-quality form of gatorade.

Also, the most important supplement you can take, is water. Every cell in your body, every electrical impulse inside you, relies on water. You're going to need a LOT more water when you begin to exercise more.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:56 PM
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5. WOW dude, you wrote some really great advice there. THANKS
cause I can always use more tips and advice, having just started working out a couple months ago, officially for the first time ever, in my 40 + years.

It ain't easy.

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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:12 PM
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6. Look for the Boat pose in Yoga--really works fast on the ab's.
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:50 PM
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12. you're welcome
Hey, if liberals stay healthy and live longer, we'll be able to do more good in our lives.

I'd be glad to help you with specific questions -- what ain't easy? Motivation? Soreness?
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Triple H Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:16 PM
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7. I can help...
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 02:17 PM by Triple H
1. I've actually managed to shrink it down a pants size in the last two weeks. My diet--lack of one. I don't eat much anymore since my grandpa died. :( I'm actually on a no pop diet right now and I've lost a good six or seven pounds from it.

2. DO NOT USE SUPPLEMENTS! They aren't approved by the FDA. There could be some nasty stuff in them, so avoid at all costs. If you're up to building muscle, just eat a good meal of protein afterwards. It helps, trust me. Excess protein in your diet, though, will turn into fat, so stick with a reasonable amount of protein a day (20-30 grams). Anything else is just a waste.

I'm no expert, though, so if you're going to go on a diet, consult your doctor or physician to see what would work best for you.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:23 PM
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8. I don't know how old you are, but
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 02:23 PM by FlaGranny
fat on the tummy can be nearly impossible to get rid of if you're older. So if all the fat doesn't come off, even though you do "everything," sometimes the only option might be liposuction. The younger you are, the easier it will probably be.
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battleknight24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:24 PM
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10. I'm 22`
:)
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:20 PM
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14. Ah, then you probably won't have a problem.
Lucky youngster. :-)
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battleknight24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:24 PM
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9. What brands of protein powder do you all recommend?
?
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ThatPoetGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:41 PM
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11. I won't go with brands...
In the 70s they came up with this scale, going up to 100, on the "quality" of protein -- basically how much protein your body will actually use. They set egg whites as 100, and in comparison the protein in peas was something like 41, etc. Soy protein was 67.

But technologies have changed. You can now buy soy protein isolate in a powder, which is about 100 on that same scale, and it's been shown to help your immune system too. But whey protein extract and isolate, they kick the scale's butt. They register at about 170, on a scale that was originally designed to go up to 100 and stop there.

Some people will tell you that it's cheaper to buy egg protein and just take more of it, to equal the whey proteins. Don't listen to them. Suppose you take 15 grams of whey protein and your body absorbs 13 grams; your kidneys then have to dispose of the other two grams. To get those same 13 grams from, say, casein (milk protein), you'd need 30 grams of the powder -- meaning your kidneys will have to dispose of 17 grams of pure protein. This is nuts, don't do it to yourself, pay the extra for the whey protein, your kidneys are far more valuable than the extra ten dollars you'll pay for the whey protein. And be sure it isn't whey itself, be sure it's whey PROTEIN. I'd recommend you look at the ingredients and avoid the ones with sweeteners, because if you add them to juice they'll be sickeningly sweet. Plain and vanilla are the only flavors I can tolerate.

And remember, don't overdo it.

The package will probably say "2 scoops, three times a day," or some such malarkey. They want you to use it quickly, so you'll buy more and give them more money. I'd recommend 1 scoop twice a day, between meals, with a glass of orange juice or grape juice.

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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 02:55 PM
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13. Pilates all the way...
For stomach/back/major muscle group strength and toning. Other than that, I rock climb a lot, so I can't give much advice on lifting, etc. I really like Ana Caban's DVD's, personally I think she's got a lot more energy and patience for beginners (like me!) than most of the 'mainstream' fitness ladies! Good luck and HAVE FUN! I think the most important thing is to find exercise that you enjoy! I can climb 3-4 times a week, hard, and LOVE IT!

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