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Tue Oct-05-10 05:31 PM
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So how come it's "portuguese" (with two Us), but "Portugal" (with only |
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one U)?
I've never understood that.
(Just the kind of useless thing a manic brain like mine seizes on now and again.)
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Tue Oct-05-10 05:34 PM
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1. It signifies that the G is hard, which would be less clear without the u. |
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Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 05:40 PM by BurtWorm
The spelling is borrowed from Portuguese.
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Tue Oct-05-10 05:35 PM
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2. It signifies that the **what** is hard? The second U? |
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Tue Oct-05-10 05:39 PM
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Sorry. Typing this on an iPhone. I repeat, that the g is hard.
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Tue Oct-05-10 05:42 PM
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4. Aha. Thank you. I had not known that about that language. |
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:16 PM
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7. G is soft before a, o, u, but hard before e, i. |
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Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 06:17 PM by Xipe Totec
Just as in Spanish, a 'u' is inserted before e, or i, to make them soft but then the 'u' becomes silent.
If the 'u' is to be sounded, it is marked with a dieresis.
That is why words like güero (blondie) have the umlaut or dieresis.
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:33 PM
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8. How then, would one pronounce Portugual ...? |
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what does that second "u" do in this case?
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:39 PM
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9. Yes, the second 'u' would be sounded in that case |
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Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 06:40 PM by Xipe Totec
cacophonically.
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:49 PM
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:51 PM
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:58 PM
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16. ok, thanks. Wanted to make sure I understood. |
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:43 PM
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10. Did you mean that the other way around? Portuguese and guero are |
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pronounced with the hard 'g', but without the 'u' it would be soft? If 'g' is hard before 'e', why is the 'u' needed?
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:46 PM
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Portugese would be pronounced as if spelt Portukhese. Guttural, half way between an x and hacking a loogie.
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Tue Oct-05-10 07:08 PM
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17. Oh, I guess a hard g is harder than I thought. I think of |
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hard g as 'guh', and soft g as 'jeh'. So the guh-like sound in Portuguese is actually a soft g?
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Tue Oct-05-10 07:12 PM
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18. Yes. The hard G is closer to H as in Herbert, Soft G is like G in Geese nt |
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Tue Oct-05-10 07:31 PM
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19. Interesting, I've learned a new thing today |
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Tue Oct-05-10 08:28 PM
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20. Is that why it's called the G-spot? Because it's hard next to U, but soft next to I? |
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Wed Oct-06-10 03:11 PM
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Tue Oct-05-10 05:52 PM
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5. Why do people misspell Finland all the time? |
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:06 PM
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6. Do they? I did not know. How to they missspell it? "Finnland?" My doctor's last |
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Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 06:07 PM by Redstone
name is "Hautaniemi," whic I guessed to be North African, but turns out to be Finnish. I'd never have guessed it, given the absense of two Ks or two Ps together.
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Tue Oct-05-10 06:50 PM
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Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 06:50 PM by KamaAina
The name of Finland in Finnish, as shown on their hockey uniforms for instance, is "Suomi".
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:34 AM
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Wed Oct-06-10 12:18 PM
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22. And the Koreans' name for Korea is "Hankook." Dunno know why we don't |
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just use their names for their countries.
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Wed Oct-06-10 12:27 PM
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23. Cool! That means Rev. Moon "puts the kook back in Hankook". |
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