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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 05:55 PM
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Anthony Defense Rests - Dude, she's going to be executed
There's no way she can win this - and I am convinced she will get the death penalty.



Is that a good thing? I'm not for the DP. And to be honest, I have no idea what really happened.

I just know whatever happens will, like the rest of this case, be tragic.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:18 PM
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1. Probably life in prison without the chance for parole is my guess.
There is no direct evidence she killed her daughter.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:27 PM
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5. That would probably be the case in any other trial
But this one has so much media attention, so much public anger, so many emotions - I think the prosecution is going to go in for the kill and get it.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:51 PM
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6. I'm thinking a death sentence would be overturned upon appeal.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 08:46 PM
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7. That's probably true as well eom
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kayakjohnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:19 PM
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2. I'm just as amazed at the reaction across the board, from individuals and from the media...
as I am by the bizarre nature of the case itself.

I ignored it for years, successfully, until the trial began.

Then it got in my face.

Sad chain of events all the way around.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:20 PM
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3. The whole family could be the subject of a direct to DVD movie
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 09:15 PM
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11. Not just the family, all the players
From the various multiple boyfriends, the bounty hunter search group leader, the psychics, the cops, the "girlfriend" of the father, the lead attorney and his team, so many of the expert witnesses on both sides, they are all interesting and strange characters.

You couldn't fit all of these weirdos into a movie - it would have to be a mini-series at least. This story is too strange to be fiction.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 02:55 PM
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16. Eventually, there will be a TV movie on Lifetime. You can bet on it. n/t
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 03:00 PM
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17. I had never heard of the case until a couple of weeks ago when it started
gaining actual traction in the media. Still trying to avoid.
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 06:23 PM
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4. Hey Jose, hear that chomping sound? It's the prosecution eating your lunch.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 08:56 PM
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8. Did you see the deal with the audience member/ex-co-worker who flipped off the prosecutor?
He was sent to jail for 6 days and fined! Stupid mofo, that judge is NOT very forgiving of jerks in his courtroom.

I'm in FL and pretty much everyone I know thinks she should be buried UNDER the jail, the sooner the better.
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 08:59 PM
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9. You think the ass hole who flipped the bird will still have his job at TGIF when he gets out?
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 09:17 PM
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12. Probably not...
it's Orlando, waitstaff is a dime a dozen these days.

The guy has a PD to contest the charge as well...he is gonna get reamed, this judge doesn't put up with anything. I can't believe he thought he could get by with this. 28 years old, he's not a kid. You can read comments here: http://discussions.orlandosentinel.com/20/orlnews/os-casey-anthony-trial-matthew-bartle20110630/10

Can't believe people are trying to defend him.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 09:10 PM
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10. Death penalty procedures are currently on hold in Florida
Due to a Florida Supreme Court case decision that came down last week.
Judge Kills Death Penalty in Florida
Monday, June 27, 2011Last Update: 8:57 AM PT
By JONNY BONNER
(CN) - It is unconstitutional for Florida judges to impose the death penalty without having jurors make independent findings as to aggravating factors, a Miami federal judge ruled, and the move is expected to ignite a rash of appeals by death-row inmates. In the high-profile murder trial against Casey Anthony, the young mother charged with killing her toddler in 2008, her team filed a motion Monday for a mistrial.
More: http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/06/27/37722.htm

I am not so sure that they have proven first degree murder, though I do think that is what it was. I'd be just as happy if she got life in prison without parole.

What I am worried about is that Baez threw the case and Anthony has a chance to appeal for incompetent counsel. The defense case was a shambles and Baez is certainly going to be sanctioned and held in contempt for things he did during the trial. He'll be lucky to keep his license to practice in Florida, and considering it took him eight years after he got out of law school to be accepted to the Bar, he would likely never get it back.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 06:22 AM
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13. And you chose that picture why?
What are you trying to say,
and why?

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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 07:47 PM
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21. Looks like she's high on beer and travel money to me. n/t
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 07:26 AM
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14.  I've been following the trial on WFTV...
They have live coverage/blog everyday and ton's of archived information and video.

http://www.wftv.com/caseyanthony/index.html


Anyone who wants can get a text message sent straight to your in-box or cellular telephone when a verdict comes in by signing up here:
http://www.wftv.com/emailnewsletters/index.html



It is very interesting watching our justice system live. I've learned quite a bit.

On a side note: I think Casey is guilty as sin! I also think the prosecution has done a good job for what little physical evidence that was left to determine cause and time of death. Must admit that the defense had "absolutely nothing" to work with but think they should never have given that opening statement.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 02:51 PM
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15. Her mother has just been proved
to have perjured herself.

I think she will be convicted, though I doubted it for a while.

I think she is guilty as hell and a sociopath.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 04:41 PM
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18. I really wish you weren't right
I dunno, it really bothers me that someone could do such a thing to their own kid

I know selfish people, but to suffocate your own child - - with your own hands????

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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 06:14 PM
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19. Read records showed someone was on her work computer...
at the time she said she was home even though she was still clocked in at work.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-11 06:21 PM
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20. No DP; too much circumstantial stuff. Guilty, though. 25 to life.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-11 04:16 PM
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22. i agree...nt
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 09:20 AM
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23. I'm listening to the prosecutor's closing right now. Very, very convincing. n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 09:46 AM
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24. Haven't followed it but we watched some of it today - all the fake people is really damning
the fake nanny
the fake job
the fake love interest


Weird stuff. She probably learned how to lie from being molested by her father AND brother -- didn't know about the brother. Yikes what a horrid household that must have been.

She is done.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 10:48 AM
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25. And fake molestation accusations, I believe. They have already proven
Casey lies on top of lies. It is too hard for the average person to imagine how a mother could kill a child, so we search for a reason. Some people just go bad, lie, manipulate, think they are smarter or that the world owes them. I have such a child, and am raising her children. My daughter constantly revises history and facts to suit herself. She alluded to her problems being because of her dad, then when faced with facts, changed it to a family friend, again changed it to a female cousin, then not, then again the cousin, now both female cousins..... In the end it really doesn't matter who did what to her or when. We all have terrible things happen to us in life, but we have choices in how we respond. Most of us do not kill, for any reason, and especially not a child.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 11:24 AM
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26. The question that is gnawing at me......
Edited on Sun Jul-03-11 11:39 AM by Avalux
what really happened to that little girl? The prosecution says Casey did it, the defense says it was an accidental drowing; the only person who really knows is her mother....Casey.

What really happened (not just some bizarre theory about accidental drowning), has not been told; Casey didn't take the stand to clear it up.

I know she should not be found guilty if there's reasonable doubt, but for a mother of a 2 year old child to stay mum about what really happened...that to me speaks volumes.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 12:06 AM
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33. i can hazard a guess
2 years "zannie" was her nanny
thet is 2 years that caylee was put to sleep and put in the trunk
she always got her out so no problem
then on a hot june night after putting the baby in the trunk and making her party rounds she met someone
off she went to their place where she passed out
upon waking the next day late and realizing she had left the baby in the trunk
in a parking lot
in orlando florida
in july
when she made her way back to her car she opened the trunk and there was the baby either dead or near dead
she left the baby there until the smell became unmistakeable and only then did she collect and hide the body
an hour in the summer sun would be about all it would take to kill a dehydrated baby
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 12:33 PM
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27. I think she's guilty and will be convicted, but I'm not too sure about her
getting the death penalty.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 12:46 PM
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28. I'm against the death penalty and in her case I'd rather see her live out her...
"Beautiful life" locked up in a small cell. Other inmates are very hard on child killers. Anyway, Florida doesn't execute...death penalty charge is just a formality.

My only fear is that the jury is lame and aquits her. The only consolation would be that the court can aquit but the public doesn't. Like OJ...for all intents and purposes, her life is over.
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TBA Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 12:20 PM
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36. Florida does execute - even women
Aileen Wuornos was exected in 2002.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 01:00 PM
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29. I am buggin about "Zanny" the nanny
If she's been the nanny for almost two years but does not really exist, yet no other caretaker has been presented. Casey had been clubbing for those two years. where was Caley? I vision her sleeping soundly in the trunk.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 03:47 PM
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30. She's a sociopath, she deserves the DP.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 04:18 PM
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31. I'm amazed by Casey Anthony's demeanor throughout this.
I mean DAMN! is reality ever gonna set in for this woman? I think we truly are seeing first hand how a psychopath acts. It's frightening!

I don't know if she'll get the death penalty, did the State prove without a doubt she murdered Caylee with premeditation? Link it all together so that the jury could find her guilty for that? I don't know. Plus there's that one juror who said she can't "sit in judgment of another".

I think prison would be an even worse punishment than the DP to be honest. Let her rot in that scary stark forsaken place with no freedom... Bella Vita indeed.

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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-03-11 11:53 PM
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32. she will get ag man and do every
second of 30 years in the state pen
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 01:00 AM
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34. I don't know a whole lot about the case but she definitely does
not act like someone who didn't do it (from what I've seen). I'd say she fits the criteria of a sociopath. I'm also against the DP so hopefully life in prison with no possibility of parole. Killing your own little child is something I can't wrap my mind around.
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Raffi Ella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 10:32 AM
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35. I'm listening to the closing arguments-
I think if the Jury WANTS to find her guilty they have All They Need to do so. It could've only been Casey. And with the Google searches they have premeditation.

That poor little girl.
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 04:01 PM
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37. For the rest of her family's sake, I hope she doesn't get the DP.
Throw away the key but don't put her to death. I've got a cousin on death row in Florida awaiting another trial on appeal; it's hard on the rest of the family, ya know.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 04:09 PM
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38. I have heard that delusion before. Function not data.
Edited on Mon Jul-04-11 04:10 PM by RandomThoughts
Basically it is I am not dead, becuase it would make someone in my family feel bad, or that I don't matter except to keep someone else happy, that has different views.

That is part of a delusion mentioned before. It is to create thoughts of making someone feel bad, within that delusion, and getting someone to feel bad, or breaking there choice of faith, and then that would force the correction that is needed. Even if they are wrong, crushing the faith of someone not doing much wrong with it, does not seem best. And that is just an extension of the delusion posted about yesterday.

Would you confine someone to hell so you could be in heaven, something I would not choose to do, but some would. That is the larger topic on that conversation, that is not delusional, and can be thought on with learning.
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kimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 04:59 PM
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39. The defendant is a proven liar
Edited on Mon Jul-04-11 05:00 PM by kimi
and I cannot believe that a mother of a child of any age whatsoever would just let someone (the "nanny") take her and not want to know where that child is for a freaking month, or however long it was. That is totally unbelievable. The stories that are coming up now about molestation, the grandfather covering up an accidental death -- nope, I don't buy it for a minute. She MAY have been molested, but it's very convenient that it comes up now, after she lived in their home with her female child. If you've been molested, why on earth would you expose your own child to possible future molestation? It doesn't fly -- in my mind, that dog don't hunt.

I'm torn on the DP, tend to go against it -- but IMO it would be a travesty if she were acquitted.
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