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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 09:36 AM
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Are Roman numerals still taught in school?
The reason I'm asking is, I'm doing a crossword puzzle and there are a couple clues that involve doing math with Roman numerals. I was thinking, if they don't teach it anymore, kids wouldn't be able to figure out the clues.
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cyberswede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:20 AM
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1. We didn't learn them in school
I can't remember how I learned them - probably from my mom - or from *doing* crossword puzzles. :)
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:55 PM
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11. I figured them out so I could understand copyright dates in old books
When I was citing them as references. Never was taught them in school.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:34 AM
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2. My kids did, but they don't remember them now.
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:35 AM
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3. I haven't used roman numerals in like IX years....
Even then I can think of only IV times I actually used them before that...
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 11:16 AM
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4. Thank GOD FOR FOOTBALL!!!
Otherwise, no one would know any of them :rofl:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 09:30 AM
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22. Heh!! Football is the only thing teaching kids about Romans and their numbers!!
:rofl:

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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 11:46 AM
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5. Have you noticed that they don't use them
for copyrights in movies or TV anymore?
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 04:22 AM
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19. No offense,
but I think you're wrong.

I haven't seen every movie, nor every television show, but I think you'll find they're still there.

The difference is they're shorter numbers now.

MM
MMV
MMX

rather than MCMLXXXVIII type character strings.

We're currently MMXI
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 11:54 AM
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6. Why did we ever need to learn them in the first place? Even..
the Romans gave up on them eons ago.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 12:09 PM
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7. only in Italian schools
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:38 PM
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8. You need to know some basic ones for chemistry.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:46 PM
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9. I don't remember ever being taught Roman numerals in school.
I attended public schools in the 70's and 80's. No memory of learning the numbers. I learned Roman numerals from Bugs Bunny cartoons. I wanted to know what all of those MCMXLIX and MCMLII's in the opening credits meant. My mother explained the Roman concept of numbers to me. Pretty simple. It took about five minutes to master the system; and this was for a 7 year-old!

Roman numerals: easy as pie to add and subtract.

Sheer torturous, bloody murder to multiply and divide...
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:53 PM
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10. I learned them in school, quess there was a reason.
Kids today only learn the test they have to take.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:56 PM
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12. Kids know them so they can read gang tags.
At least in this neighborhood. :shrug:
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:08 AM
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29. Your neighborhood has gangs of marauding ancient romans?
Gangstas wearing togas writing "Caesar was here" in spraypaint on the walls?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:23 AM
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31. Gangs tag numbers that correspond to their gang all the time.
Usually the numbers come from a street where they got started or something like that. http://www.cityofsacramento.org/code/graffiti/graffiti-faq.cfm#11
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 10:14 AM
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34. Around here, the only number used is "13"
13th letter of alphabet is "M", for "Mexican" (except for MS-13 which is actually a Salvadorean gang)

Never saw a gang tag with roman numerals

Never saw one written in greek letters either, or using mathematical symbols. Maybe in the vicinity of CalTech.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 10:57 PM
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13. I learned them from collecting old sheet music. n/t
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 11:08 PM
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14. unfortunately they do not even teach how to write anymore
so Roman numerals probably fell on the sword first =(

I imagine it is because they could not find any teachers to teach cursive, so counting to 100 would be expecting to much :P
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-11 11:45 PM
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15. no idea
kind of seems like my kids might have had a section on them, but I can't remember and the last graduated several years ago

I know I learned them in school but that was a LONG time ago.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:18 AM
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16. in charter schools they are
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 01:53 AM
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17. Hard to expect kids to be taught Roman numerals when cursive writing is considered too hard....
Edited on Sat Aug-06-11 01:54 AM by Rowdyboy
We'll slip and slide into the mudhole of ignorance we deserve.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 08:45 AM
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21. Cursive writing is taught alongside Carolingian Miniscule
And is only slightly more common in modern daily use.


Other than writing my signature, I haven't used--nor had any reason to use--cursive writing in over twenty years.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:16 AM
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23. How sad for you...
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 11:25 AM
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24. Do you have much need to use cursive writing in daily life? Do tell.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 02:23 AM
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18. Aren't they necessary
for outlines?
for figuring out when a movie was made in the credits?
Super Bowls?
Naming children? Not Bob Smith 3rd; it must be Bob Smith III
Naming World Wars?

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 05:14 AM
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20. don't think so. Our young office secretary blurted out the other
day, "What's IV"

So an analyst yelled back, "Intravenous"


She said, "no, IV on this piece of paper."

So the analyst taught her RNs up to ten.

The following week, she blurts out

"What's XI"
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:40 PM
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35. The analyst counts by using nurses?
Glad that the number was a small one.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:26 PM
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25. When we went bowling back in the 50s, we kept score in Roman numerals.
Just for the hell of it.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 12:37 PM
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26. Only if they're on the State Test.
Otherwise, got no time to teach 'em!
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Zoigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:05 PM
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27. I always taught them when i was teaching math, plus their history.
And why there was a switch to Arabic numerals. But that was
almost twenty years ago when teachers could be more creative
in their teaching and not have to worry so much about test results......z
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-11 07:18 PM
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28. Sure. They're so incredibly handy in most every situation
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:09 AM
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30. They taught them in elementary schools in the 60s
Made learning hexadecimal and octal in computer science classes much easier
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 03:15 AM
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32. Yanno, I don't remember
I remember it was an exercise in computer programming class... make a program (TurboPASCAL) to convert an arabic number into a roman number.



But I think I learned it because my parents taught me at home. I'm not sure, though.



I do know that the Number of the Beast is DCLXVI, which is all the roman numerals in descending order, except for "M".


And why is it "Roman numerals" and not "Roman numbers", anyway?
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 06:58 AM
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33. I think computers have contributed to their obsolescence.
We used them in archaeology to denote excavation proveniences, i.e. Level I, Level II... Level XII, etc... With the introduction of computer spreadsheets/databases they have fallen into disfavor, though, as they can't be sorted easily.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 03:06 PM
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36. Not sure. Left elementary school XIII years ago. Graduated from high school VI years ago.
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BarbaRosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:43 PM
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37. I learned them in school.
How ironic, now that the date is easier to figure out it's not used anymore. MMXI
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 05:58 PM
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38. I once got 100 % on a test....
on Roman numerals. I was 7. :)
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 06:21 PM
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39. Shouldn't that be
you got C% when you were VII?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 06:23 PM
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40. Not since MCMLXXXVI .
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