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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 07:44 AM
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Strategic Vision (R) Should be DUMPED from Electoral-Vote.com
Republicans unsatisfied with independent pollsters created Strategic Vision, a Republican polling company who's results are always in favor of George W Bush. I recently emailed the guy who maintains the www.electoral-vote.com and told him he was being played.

votemaster04@yahoo.com

Can you put 1 and 1 together ? You ARE BEING MANIPULATED.

A large number of people visit your site to see who is
leading in the polls, that's clearly indicated by your
number of hits.

My beef with you is the fact that you and your rules
are being exploited and you may not be noticing it.
When a polling company has the name Strategic Vision,
what do you think their objective is ? Strategic
Vision has been running polls in battleground states
that are way off everyone else's results, every time
in favor of George W Bush ! In fact, I'd check these
numbers, but I think they've been running more polls
than anyone else.

Dump Strategic Vision from your results, you are
helping them obtain their "Strategic Vision" ! They
are using and manipulating the service you provide.

AIJ Alom
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 07:57 AM
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1. I dumped www.electoral-vote.com
They are just as believable as Fox News Polls.

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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:26 PM
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9. That guy is fair. He has a policy about polling companies.
Go to his main page and read the whole thing.

Notice where he says:

Personally, I have my doubts about Strategic Vision, but I am sticking to my rule of using the poll with the most recent middle date, and breaking ties in favor of the shortest poll, and averaging tied shortest polls.

I think he's fair...he's just having to deal with so many R polls that he's a little trapped. Wait until S.V. gets replaced...
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 08:00 AM
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2. Did Strategic Vision do polling in 2000?
If they did, it would be interesting to compare their polls to the actual result.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:24 AM
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3. No they didn't.
They started this year I believe. I'm looking into their company.
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:34 AM
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4. I wonder if Buckhead is a member of Strategic Vision ? They work out of
Atlanta, Georgia.

http://www.strategicvision.biz/

Creating Solutions. Pursuing Results. Winning Concepts.

At Strategic Vision, LLC we believe in achieving results for our clients. We position clients for today and tomorrow. We create a vision in a variety of ways that allows you to stand out from your competition.

Then we have their political branch.

http://www.strategicvision.biz/political/index.html

Winning Campaigns. Winning Coalitions. Winning Concepts.

At Strategic Vision Political, we craft winning results for our clients. Our team has over fifty years of experience in working on political races ranging from municipal to federal. We have worked with a wide range of issue advocacy groups across the country. Our client's success is the measure of our own.

Our team of experts works on races from school boards to the presidency. No race is too big or too small. Our CEO, David E. Johnson, is sought after by the media for his comprehensive analysis and knowledge of the political world. His insight and expertise is the foundation upon which our clients' campaigns are built.

Our team is knowledgeable about politics and current events throughout the nation and operates nationally on a variety of races and issue advocacy programs.

WAIT A SECOND !!! How can they be conducting polls and working on the presidential race !?!?! RED ALERT !!!
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AIJ Alom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 10:53 AM
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5. Who is paying for Strategic Visions Polls ?
http://www.kcrg.com/article.aspx?art_id=90659&cat_id=123

Strategic Vision conducted a three-day poll of likely Iowa voters.

It showed the Bush-Cheney ticket with a two point lead.

Strategic Vision will be doing bi-weekly polling in Iowa until Election Day.

(WHO THE HECK IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE POLLS?).


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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:24 PM
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6. I had an email from them saying they're independent...
that they do polling during elections just for the exposure.

Yeah, sure.

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mosin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:25 PM
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7. Strategic Vision (R)
Strategic Vision is a Republican consulting and polling organization in the same way that Democracy Corps is a Democratic consulting and polling organization. (Both may be nominally "non-partisan," but no one reallly believes that.)

So you have to take Strategic Vision polling with an even smaller grain of salt than that of independent polling organizations.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:25 PM
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8. Ring any bells for anyone?
Domain Name: STRATEGICVISION.BIZ
Domain ID: D1350866-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: REGISTER.COM
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 9
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: C20347601-NLVL
Registrant Name: David Johnson
Registrant Organization: Strategic Vision
Registrant Address1: 907 Cove Place
Registrant City: Atlanta
Registrant State/Province: GA
Registrant Postal Code: 30339
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.7703191927
Registrant Email: dej4872@mindspring.com
Administrative Contact ID: C20347601-NLVL
Administrative Contact Name: David Johnson
Administrative Contact Organization: Strategic Vision
Administrative Contact Address1: 907 Cove Place
Administrative Contact City: Atlanta
Administrative Contact State/Province: GA
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 30339
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.7703191927
Administrative Contact Email: dej4872@mindspring.com
Billing Contact ID: NEUL-0000365605
Billing Contact Name: Domain Registrar
Billing Contact Organization: .ws Cobrand
Billing Contact Address1: 575 8th Avenue
Billing Contact Address2: 11th Floor
Billing Contact City: New York
Billing Contact State/Province: NY
Billing Contact Postal Code: 10018
Billing Contact Country: United States
Billing Contact Country Code: US
Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.9027492701
Billing Contact Email: partnereu@register.com
Technical Contact ID: NEUL-0000365605
Technical Contact Name: Domain Registrar
Technical Contact Organization: .ws Cobrand
Technical Contact Address1: 575 8th Avenue
Technical Contact Address2: 11th Floor
Technical Contact City: New York
Technical Contact State/Province: NY
Technical Contact Postal Code: 10018
Technical Contact Country: United States
Technical Contact Country Code: US
Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.9027492701
Technical Contact Email: partnereu@register.com
Name Server: NS.SITEPROTECT.COM
Name Server: NS2.SITEPROTECT.COM
Created by Registrar: REGISTER.COM
Last Updated by Registrar: BATCHCSR
Domain Registration Date: Mon Nov 12 01:39:51 GMT+00:00 2001
Domain Expiration Date: Thu Nov 11 23:59:59 GMT+00:00 2004
Domain Last Updated Date: Wed Nov 12 00:42:25 GMT+00:00 2003
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:46 PM
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10. Yup, repub
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 05:40 PM
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11. the RWingers tried to take down his site the other day.
Guess they don't like his results either.

Personally, I like the site. I don't take his results too seriously, though. But I don't take polls in general too seriously, either.
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