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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:16 AM
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Who would Kerry give his delegates to if he left the race?
Kerry will have the most delegates of at least 7 of the nine candidates. If Kerry were to bow out of the race, and assuming it came down to Dean Vs. Clark. Which would Kerry give his delegates to?

Dean and Kerry seem to not like each other that much. On the other hand, Clark would suck a great deal of his support when he enters. So I am curious, which of the two do you think Kerry would throw his support behind.

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tlb Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 03:19 AM
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1. Down the road I picture the Kerry delegates going to Gephardt.
No offense but I see Clark as a nonstarter.
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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:15 AM
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4. Do you think Gephardt will be in the race if he places 2nd or 3rd in Iowa?
And then places 3rd or fourth in NH, in the bottom in SC? I would tend to think he would bail after that.

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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:08 AM
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2. Lieberman
nt
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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:13 AM
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3. Do you think that Lieberman will last longer then Kerry?
I don't even think Lieberman will be in race after Michigan.

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:53 PM
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9. I don't see him in it after Super Tuesday
if even that long.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:18 AM
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5. I wouldn't worry about it because
he won't be leaving the race. Clark is very much like Kerry, so I'm sure Kerry would support him.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:21 AM
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6. Not Sure Since Clark Will Most Likely Be His VP choice
I think Kerry would give his delegates to Dean before, say, Lieberman, but probably not before another credible candidate like Gephardt. It may be the whole Kasey joke, but I think they are not the best of friends. Nevertheless, he's not going to snub the Party for personal reasons. He would also have to be a Senator under whoever got the job, and I can't see him burning bridges. Kerry is a bridge builder in the party, not a polarizer.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 06:55 PM
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7. clark or edwards
i would think kerry would give release his delegates to clark if he runs, or john edwards.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:53 PM
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8. If Clark runs, then him
otherwise probably Gephardt. Kerry isn't dropping out though, I see him in it until the end.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:55 PM
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10. Why would you post this unrealistic and ridiculous post?
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 08:01 PM by molly
"Kerry will have the most delegates of at least 7 of the nine candidates."

on edit - I posted earlier that I would vote for Clark second - you never responded - why? Is Clark your first choice - if not, who is?
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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 09:52 PM
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12. Oh, Sorry
Clark is my first choice. Kerry is my second. I think that Kerry would give his delegates to Clark if he had to choose between Dean and Clark.

I only see, Clark, Dean, Kerry, and Gephardt as the only choices the Democrats have.

Dean/Gephardt might be able to win. But a Kerry/and some Southern, or Clark/Richardson would maximize our chances.

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 08:07 PM
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11. A more valid question would be: Is the moon made of Roquefort or Brie?
A more valid question would be: Is the moon made of Roquefort or Brie?
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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:02 PM
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13. What be an even more valid question is
Does your vote count in Montana anyway?


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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:08 PM
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14. Over my head I guess, not to be combative, but what is your point?
Edited on Fri Aug-15-03 10:20 PM by Feanorcurufinwe

Edit: I mean even the idea of Clark entering the race is a hypothetical. And Kerry pulling out and offering someone his delegates? It's just so far fetched. Really I didn't mean any offense with my moon comment and I apologize if I gave any. It's just that I have a lot of trouble entertaining your premise.

"Does your vote count in Montana anyway?"

I guess I really don't know what your point is here.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:24 PM
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15. Doesn't the electoral college favor rural states?
I don't know. If it did, it would seem your vote would actually count more.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:50 PM
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16. Yes
Yes, for the electoral college it counts more, but for the House it counts less, I believe Montana is the most populous House district. For the Senate, it counts more. So it all evens out in a way. Hey, I'd be willing to go along with the general proposition that all our votes and opinion count more or less equally. Radical idea, I know....
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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:59 PM
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18. Montana always goes to the Repukes
So my point is that most votes in Montana don't help the Democratic Candidate for President.

But Mr. F was talking about the nomination and delegates. He is correct, Montana does count more for the population.

I agree that, one person one vote, should be the way to go. But the electoral college prevents this from happening.

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:19 PM
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21. Clinton won Montana in 92.
Clinton won Montana in 92. Sure Perot split the vote but the fact remains Montana ended up in the D column. Yes the Repubs have been on top for a while here but we have a strong Democratic party and tradition. We have been making slow gains in the Legislature in the past few elections, and I think 2004 will be a big year for Dems here especially if we can find a good candidate to run for the house.

In short, I ain't giving up yet!
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VoteClark Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 10:55 PM
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17. There was no point
Just like your comment about the moon.
I think it is reasonable to think that at some point, if Clark enters the race that Kerry would eventually drop from the race.

It is also reasonable to say that with 10 candidates that no one candidate will have a majority of the delegates. Dean could have 20%, Gephardt 15%, Clark 20%, Kerry 15%, and the others with the remaining. So if Clark got Kerry's 15% with his 20%, that would be 35%, combined with super delgates he would have enough to win. On the other hand, if Kerry throws his delegates to Dean, Dean could win the nomination if he choose Gephardt as his running mate.

So I think this is very relevant. Obviously Kerry is going to have delegates. Probably more then Kucinich, and Sharpton, and Braun, and Edwards, and Graham. So who he gives them to will make a big difference in who wins the nomination.

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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:14 PM
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19. Well
Well you are entitled to your opinion, however, I think your premise is invalid, which was my point with my moon comment - "Is the moon made of Roquefort or Brie?" is based on the premise that the moon is made of cheese. But I guess I was being too cute.

I guess we've only got a couple weeks to wait to hear from Clark...
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:15 PM
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20. I think Clark will have a much smaller impact than you suggest
The primary voters are coming to know the declared candidates very well, and like them. Clark's entering so late will hurt him.

He'll make a very formidable candidate in future elections, I'm sure about that.
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