Nicholas_J
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Sat Jul-19-03 05:56 PM
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Kerry now out front for political support in N.H.Primary |
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The 105 politicos who will help decide which candidate wins New Hampshire’s “First in the Nation” 2004 Democratic presidential primary … Uncommitted 40 Mosley-Braun 0 Clark 2 Dean 8 Edwards 12 Gephardt 13 Graham 0 Kerry 18 Kucinich 0 Lieberman 12 Sharpton 0 http://www.politicsnh.com/pres04/tallyboard.htm
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Sat Jul-19-03 08:48 PM
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1. Why is Dean so low in this list? |
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I thought he was number 2 in NH.
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MercutioATC
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Sat Jul-19-03 08:56 PM
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2. This is NOT a public poll, it's a poll of "politicos"... |
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Edited on Sat Jul-19-03 08:59 PM by MercutioATC
Simply a poll of hand-picked Dems that the writer considers to be "influential".
(as a sidebar, the only 2 Ohio "politicos" I've decided to include in MY upcoming article are dsc and myself, giving Gov. Dean a "sure win" here)
This link is another op-ed piece...even less credible than MOST of the op-ed pieces posted by some unnamed poster(s).
(on edit)
It's not even a POLL of "politicos"...it's just a statement of which candidates the writer THINKS the "politicos" suport.
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Nicholas_J
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Sun Jul-20-03 01:02 PM
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7. Yes, but when Dean was doing very well in this poll |
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Dean suppoorters had no qualms about presenting it as "Authoratative" Many of those sho supported Dean in this poll six months agio have switched allegence to Kerry. AS fair numbers of thosec who supported Dean have been doing in New Hampshire. Deans drops in pollling in New Hampshire between March and June largely came from defections from Dean supporters to other candidatess
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MercutioATC
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Sun Jul-20-03 01:17 PM
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8. I never posted this "poll", because it's NOT a poll |
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it's a pure editorial with absolutely NO polling involved.
As I said, I could do this and engineer any results I wished.
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Sun Jul-20-03 10:52 AM
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4. He is #2 in terms of voter support |
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But in terms of support from the Democratic establishment in New Hampshire, he is lagging because the very nature of his candidacy is one of an outsider taking on the establishment. So he is less likely to garner support from insiders.
The advantage that I see, though, is that by running an outsider campaign, he is bringing a bunch of people into the process who never voted or had given up voting, and a lot of people who have always voted but never gotten involved before. If he becomes the nominee, then the Democratic establishment will probably rally around him, as they don't have much choice, and so he will have a broader base of both insiders and outsiders. And if he does not win the nomination, I hope that some of the people who have never been involved until now will have been converted into activists and will help whoever gets the nomination.
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Nicholas_J
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Sun Jul-20-03 12:59 PM
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6. New Hampshire politicos do not like Dean |
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And the rivalry between the political ideas of how states should be run are at opposite polls. Kerry leads and leads strongly in the states most populous areas, closer to Masschusetts, where workers have greatly benefited from Kerry's fighting for Masschusetts in Congress.
Dean has support in the areas closer to Vermont, but the population is smaller there.
People get their ideas about the people running from these politicos that you are dissing. Whe they support, more people will support, and right now Kerry is way ahead. Every Democrat from Massachusetts running for president has taken New Hampshire effortlessly.
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Sat Jul-19-03 09:14 PM
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Kerry's only 8 votes ahead of Gephardt and 40 are undecided...and Lieberman has 12 votes...real scientific...
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Sun Jul-20-03 10:56 AM
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5. Does N.H. have a "Supervote" system? |
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This would make a great difference, and one of the reasons that Kerry is favored in the early and tight primary schedule.
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