Where did Dean once state he embraced the confederate flag?

[Sean Reynolds]

Edwards and Kerry say he did, does that make it true? I've not read one statement where Dean said he embraced the flag. Actually, as you can see in my other post, Dean believes the confederate flag is WRONG and should be taken down!

SNIP:

Dean said Saturday that he opposed displaying the Confederate flag at the capitol. But he said he was not honoring the NAACP’s boycott of the state after discussing the matter with African American leaders in South Carolina.

“I think it should come down,” he said.

http://rutlandherald.com/hdean/64897

WE need to get this out, for Kerry and Edwards don't continue to spread these lies.

In fact, I think I'll contact the Edwards campaign myself.

[LuminousX]

1. And now Clark, who implies Dean wanted the flag flown from public building

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. Clark didn't attack Dean, be real...

Clark didn't raise the issue about Deans statements regarding pick ups and Confederate Flags. He didn't say anything negative about Dean in his own statement. After it became national political news with other Democrats attacking each other, Clark had to make a public statement, otherwise he would have been perceived as ducking the issue or simply asleep at the switch. That's political reality. Get real here, do you expect Clark to sit on the sidelines or make some vague comment. He's running for President just like Dean is. He has to project leadership just like Dean and every other candidate has to. Two questions were put up for public debate right now as a result of the news coverage and Kerry and Gep's attacks. The firstinvolves the place of the Confederate flag in America's public life. The second involves Dean and the meaning of his comments and how sensitive he is to Blacks and how good his judgement is etc. etc. etc. Clark steered totally clear of the second question while giving a strong and simple answer to the first. He didn't imply anything negative about Dean, so hold your fire for the men who did attack your candidate.

[LuminousX]

31. I retract

The Clark statement was brought to my attention by a known Dean hater and reading it in that context, it looked as though he was rebuking Dean for saying it was okay to fly the confederate flag. I should have realized that the hatred against Dean makes people 'creative' in how they post statements and title them on DU.

[OKNancy]

14. That is NOT true

Get your gacts straight.

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[Feanorcurufinwe]

2. You're right. Dean isn't a racist, he just puts his foot in his mouth

a lot. I can just imagine how he'd conduct diplomacy for our country.

[Egnever]

3. Why are you even posting this?

of all the attacks on dean trying to twist his words this and perhaps sharptons last week are the weakest I have seen yet.

Deans is nowhere near being a racist nor anyone that buys into this crap is either and Idiot or has an agenda.

Its really not even worth responding to.

[LuminousX]

4. But it is interesting

how eager they are to paint him as a racist. Is that a last ditch attempt to save their campaigns?

[killbotfactory]

12. yes

n/t

[DJcairo]

5. Dean supporters are squirming.

It's fun to whatch. Keep it up guys. You'll never make up for the stupid things your candidate says. He has only himself to blame for this one. Ask yourself: If Kerry had said this, what would Dean say in response?

[Sean Reynolds]

6. We're not squirming because of what Dean said.

We're squirming with hatred that Kerry, Edwards, Clark and the rest would twist words to hurt the Dean campaign.

The facts are there DJcairo. Just admit it, you support a liar that will do anything to get elected.

[Padraig18]

7. Exactly! n/t

[NewYorkerfromMass]

8. Really? I believe you're squirming because you know you've got

a very dangerous captain heading your ship and there's no telling what stupid thing he'll do or say next.
I'm frankly quite happy he keeps doing this shit because it's waking up people to how clueless and unfit for the office he is.

[Sean Reynolds]

10. How? Because Edwards LIED about Dean embracing the flag?

How? Because Kerry, a WHITE New Englander, attacked Dean on what he said. EVEN though his words were cheered by SOUTHER BLACKS earlier this year?

Whats clueless is the Kerry camp, which continually attacks Dean in hopes he'll fall. But ya' know what? It hasn't happened yet and it only paints Kerry as the bad guy.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

24. You: Dean = Good. Kerry = bad guy.

Congratulations on passing logic 101. The candidate who's got their act together the best will win.

[Padraig18]

25. You're right!

And that winner's name will not be John Kerry.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

26. Crystal ball time, eh?

[JohnKleeb]

27. I wanna know the brand and cost of these crystal balls

:D everyone seems to have one, no one tells me though. Ok I wont be a smartass but damnit tell me lol.

[w4rma]

29. Kerry is a liar.

Dean said the men with Confederate flag decals in their pickup trucks represented lucrative prospects for the party "because their kids don't have health insurance, either, and their kids need better schools, too.

"I intend to talk about race in this election in the south because the Republicans have been talking about it since 1968 in order to divide us. And I'm going to bring us together, because you know what? White folks in the south who drive pickups trucks with confederate flags decals in the back ought to be voting with us and not them, because their kids don't have health insurance either and their kids need better schools too." (big applause)

[Padraig18]

11. Crystal ball time, eh?

God forbid we'd be incensed by a bunch of cheap-shot artists over blatant distortions.. :eyes:

[OKNancy]

16. I agree about the others

but please back off the CLark statement. He never said a negative about Dean.

[Sean Reynolds]

18. I am sorry, you're right.

Clark didn't state Dean was a racist.

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[Sean Reynolds]

21. Calm the hell down.

I already said I was wrong above. Jesus Christ I didn't 'lie' about him.

[Bread and Circus]

23. Ok, cool....I will calm down

:hug:

[Sean Reynolds]

28. =)

:toast:

[deutsey]

9. No, it's actually pathetic to watch Dean opponents

attempt to eat their own, when their candidates, for the most part, have kowtowed to Bush since the 2000 theft.

[annxburns]

15. Clark did NOT imply Dean was a racist ...

.... Clark's statement looks like someone asked him "What do you think of the confederate flag?" I bet every candidate is fielding calls on the above question and his campaign released Clark's statement which has been up for some time. He is very obviously NOT PILING ON Dean.

[deutsey]

19. Uh huh

And Bush never ACTUALLY said that Saddam and Bin Laden were in cahoots with each other....

[Tom Rinaldo]

22. the statement

Here's Clark's actual statement:

"The Confederate flag flies in the face of our most deeply-held American values - diversity, equality and inclusion. As someone who led men and women of all backgrounds in the United States military, I believe that the only flag we should fly is the one that brings us together - the stars and stripes - and that the Confederate flag should never, ever be flown on public buildings."

Doesn't sound much different than the type of statements Dean is making right now. The "issue is up", got it? It wasn't Clark who made this all into a political hot potatoe. Now everyone, Dean included, has to make some statement showing they are opposed to what the Confederate flag stands for in the minds of many Americans. The South Carolina primary is comning up and it is a specific issue in South Carolina whethere a state flag that incorporates the Confederate flag should fly over the State House. Clark didn't duck the issue, he addresssed it. Now you are probably going to think that I'm implying that Dean is ducking the issue, and and I don't think he has or will. But that's the type logic you are using to blame Clark now for political fall out he had nothing to do with.

[MercutioATC]

32. I'm not squirming. I like the inclusive message Dean brings.

...and I've been fair in praising Kery (and other candidates) for the good things I feel they bring to the table. Since when is saying "We're all in this together" a bad thing?

[RevolutionStartsNow]

30. He didn't.

He didn't embrace it, condone it, or praise it. He merely acknowledged that it existed on the backs of trucks of voters in the South. And that those voters have been conned by the GOP all these years. It's an excellent point, and fits Dean's approach to reach out to everyone.

My only complaint to Dean is that he gave his increasingly desperate opponents an opportunity to get their names in the news by bashing Dean(not all of them -- Clark remained above the fray, despite an erroneous post here that he made a statement). They certainly get the most press when they do this.