New Washington Post poll, Kerry Does Best Against Bush

[DJcairo]

Clark: 51-40
Lieberman: 53-40
Gephardt: 51-42
Dean: 54-39
Kerry: 50-44

This is now the second poll ina row to have Kerry doing best against Bush. (Last week a national Zogby's poll showed a similar result)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/graphics/poll_103103.html

[dajabr]

1. Too bad it also shows...

he's nowhere near getting the nomination...

[tsipple]

3. Ronald Reagan Runs Well Against W

Reagan is not getting the Democratic nomination either. He's getting a movie of the week, though. :evilgrin:

[La_Serpiente]

8. Dupe

[tsipple]

2. Where's the Margin of Error?

?

[wtmusic]

4. How is Kerry doing against Dean?

Just curious.

[pruner]

6. Kerry's support is off the chart

Former Vermont governor Howard Dean leads the field with 16 percent of the vote, followed by Rep. Richard A. Gephardt (13 percent), Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (13 percent) and retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark (12 percent). No other candidate gets more than 10 percent of the vote.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50642-2003Nov1.html

[La_Serpiente]

5. Let's just shut up people

He's just posting some positive information about Kerry.

It's about time we get some of that here instead of having negative, reactionary threads.

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[dajabr]

11. "and all my threads rocket to over 100 hits"

Each a bullet in the war against ignorance...

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[DrFunkenstein]

9. Electability, Electability, Electability

E-L-E-C-T-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y

Big surprise that Dean comes in last here. Don't think that won't be on New Hapshire's mind as the primary draws close.

[tsipple]

14. President Dukakis of Massachusetts Was Up 17 Points

And that was three months before the 1988 election.

Seriously, congratulations to John Kerry. He got the the top number in the WaPo. Last time (Zogby) it was Dean, then before that it was Clark. All within the margin of error, of course, and 12 months before the general election.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

15. Kinda like how President Tsongas won NH?

[tsipple]

16. Funny, Both Were From Massachusetts

Hmmmmm... Guess those Massachusetts politicians really can't get elected President.

[JohnKleeb]

17. *cough* Kennedy

and the other one would have but sadly.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

19. Yeah, that must be it.

[DJcairo]

18. No the last Zogby Poll showed Kerry doing best against Bush too

The president would outpoll any of the current leading Democratic contenders if the election were held today. He would earn 46% of the vote against retired General Wesley Clark’s 37%; would beat former Vermont Governor Dr. Howard Dean, 47% - 39%; would poll 45% against Massachusetts Senator John Kerry’s 41%; would win over Missouri Congressman Richard Gephardt 47% - 38%, and would beat Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman, 46% - 38%.

www.zogby.com

[Feanorcurufinwe]

13. At this point, it looks close. I hope the Dem numbers go up soon.

[DrFunkenstein]

20. Nice Graphic!

n/t

[w4rma]

21. That may be partially because of Kerry's divisive attacks on Dean

ATTACKS BY FELLOW DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ON GOVERNOR DEAN

STARTING SEPTEMBER 1

Democrat hopefuls rip chief rival Dean; Kerry, Lieberman turn up heat on front-runner - AP, 9/1

Kerry slams Dean - Boston Globe, 9/1

Democratic White House Hopefuls Focus Attacks On Dean - The Bulletin's Frontrunner, 9/2

Kerry launches campaign, takes aim at Bush, Dean - Seattle Times, 9/3

Kerry Changes Stance, Takes On Dean New Campaign Tactic Highlights Differences Between Candidates - Boston Globe, 9/4

Rivals rip surging Dean - on paper; Democrats blast him in debate handouts - Dallas Morning News, 9/5

Lieberman Leads Attacks On Dean In First Debate - WSJ, 9/5

Dean's Quick Rise Makes Him Target Of His Own Party - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 9/7

Lieberman Criticizes Dean About His Remarks on Israel - NY Sun, 9/8

Taking a risk, Lieberman takes on front-running Dean - AP, 9/9

Edwards Critical of Dean Over Race Remark - AP, 9/10

Lieberman, Kerry rip Dean; Dems turn feisty in 2nd debate - Boston Globe, 9/10

Gephardt rips into Dean on health care - AP, 9/12

Presidential Candidate Congressman Gephardt Unleashed A Stinging Attack On Rival Howard Dean - FOX News, 9/12

Gephardt Attacks Dean on 2 Social Programs - NYT, 9/13

Gephardt accuses Dean of backing GOP policies - Baltimore Sun, 9/13

Gephardt criticizes Dean for past positions - Des Moines Register, 9/13

Gephardt plays hardball with front-runner Dean - Manchester Union Leader, 9/13

Gephardt Shifts Attacks to Dean - WP, 9/13

After Climbing To The Top, Dean Discovers He's A Target Rivals Set Sights On Front-Runner - Boston Globe, 9/14

In A Shift Of Strategy, Kerry Takes On Dean - Boston Globe, 9/14

Gephardt is latest to attack Dean - Chicago Tribune, 9/14

Gephardt Aims At Dean, Linking Him To Gingrich - St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 9/14

Kerry rips Bush but adds Dean hit - AP, 9/15

Gephardt Steps Up Criticism Of Dean, Says He Agreed With 'Gingrich Republicans' - Frontrunner, 9/15

Gephardt: An Attack A Day Keeps The Doctor At Bay? - Hotline, 9/15

Dean becomes a target - Newsday, 9/15

Gephardt Uses Web Site to Criticize Dean - AP, 9/16

Gephardt: Moredeanbashing.com - Hotline, 9/16

Kerry Openly Criticizes Dean's Stance On Tax Cuts For Middle Class Families - Frontrunner, 9/16

Still under attack, Dean goes easy on his rivals - AP, 9/17

Kerry Steps Up Attacks On Dean Over Trade - Frontrunner, 9/23

Kerry Attacks Rival Dean Over Protectionism - NYT, 9/23

Despite interest in Clark, Dean is still top target of other candidates - Philadelphia Inquirer, 9/25

Among the 10, Two Are Tested the Most; Newcomer Clark Avoids Serious Gaffes; Dean Withstands Sharper Challenges - WP, 9/26

10 Democratic rivals debate national woes, attack well-financed Dean and ignore newcomer Clark - Knight-Ridder, 9/26

Democrats spare Clark in his first debate and go after Dean - AP, 9/26

Democratic Candidates Focus Attacks On Dean In Primary Debate - Frontrunner, 9/26

Clark survives debate, as hopefuls target Dean; Candidates' attacks include a comparison to Gingrich - Dallas Morning News, 9/26

Debate Rivals Target Dean - Hartford Courant, 9/26

Debate: All Eyes On The General, All Attacks Aimed At Dean - Hotline, 9/26

Gephardt, Kerry attack Dean over prior views - Washington Times, 9/26

Dean Is Targeted by Rivals - LA Times, 9/26

Bush, Dean under attack in 10-way Democratic debate - Myrtle Beach Sun-News, 9/26

Fellow Dems Diss Dean As Sparks Fly In Debate - NY Post, 9/26

Attacking the Leader; Debate barbs aimed at front-runner Dean - NY Newsday, 9/26

Party unity? The candidates were united, in going after Howard Dean - Phila. Inquirer, 9/26

Dean Takes The Heat From Rivals - Baltimore Sun, 9/26

Clark Debut Doesn't Change Democrats' Focus on Dean - NY Times, 9/27

Democratic rivals target Bush -- and Dean - Salon.com, 9/27

Gephardt attacks Dean Medicare record - AP, 9/29

Democrats: Candidates Criticize Dean's Record On Medicare - American HealthLine, 9/29

Gephardt Compares Dean's Record On Medicare To Gingrich's - Frontrunner, 9/29

Gephardt: Takes His Sparring With Dean To The Sunday Shows - Hotline, 9/29

Attacks on Dean may leave voters dizzy - St. Petersburg Times, 9/29

Dean Rivals Try To Turn His Comments On Key Issues Against Him - Frontrunner, 10/2

Kerry Attacks Dean For Bush Pact - NYT, 10/2

Rivals Target Dean's Blunt Comments - WP, 10/2

Kerry Attacks Dean Over '93 Nuclear Waste Accord - Frontrunner, 10/6

Kerry maintains attacks on Dean over Medicare - DMR, 10/7

Kerry: Still Hammering Away At Dean On Medicare - Hotline, 10/7

Clark, Dean Are Targeted in Debate - LA Times, 10/10

Gephardt roasts Dean on past political moves - Myrtle Beach Sun-News, 10/12

Mutual Threat Unites 2 Rivals Opposing Dean - NYT, 10/12

Gephardt and Kerry unite against Dean - IHT, 10/13

Dean Continues To Draw Fire From Rivals At Des Moines AARP Forum - Frontrunner, 10/16

Other Candidates Again Target Dean; At Iowa Seniors Forum, He Is Chided for Views on Medicare, Bush Tax Cuts - WP, 10/16

'Divers' Dedicated to Dig Dirt on Dean - AP, 10/21

Edwards raps Dean on health plan - Manchester Union Leader, 10/21

Kerry Criticizes Dean Oversight of Vermont Egg Farm - AP, 10/22

Posted by Joe Rospars at 03:45 PM
http://blog.deanforamerica.com/archives/001964.html#more

[Feanorcurufinwe]

22. Hey, the important thing is to beat Bush, and Kerry's leading that race

[cindyw]

27. You just listed all the sensational media headlines

These stories for the most part were about the candidates taking each other on, on the issues. They sell papers with those headlines. Everyone knows about how a paper works.

:cry:

[polpilot]

23. The same posters who originally opposed Dean when he was at 1%

will be surprised if Kerry is nominated and THEN loses...and on we go.

Lack of political depth and lack of understanding of the ever moving political landscape was why they DID NOT SEE Dean in Jan. '03 as The New Democratic Leader of The NEW Democratic Party. Dean's candidacy HAS YET TO REALLY TAKE OFF.

As a Dean supporter since he was at 1% I would have considered a 'within 15 pts.' of the leader in Iowa as a huge win for Dean. Given his 'unknown' #'s and current position this campaign has no precedent in political history and no 'comparative study' is sufficient to explain his meteoritic rise.

The simple fact is that Dean is the far superior candidate and no one has emerged to challenge him. With MANY candidates at this point he continues to shine. When the media HAS to cover him it will be incredible to watch. Bush should be fitted for armor now!!!!

Dean '04...America's Leader

[HazMat]

24. it just goes to show

that even with the corporate right wing media pushing Dean, people still know who the electable Democrats are.

Kerry gets zero coverage and still does BETTER than Dean against Bush in every poll I've seen. I don't believe Dean has ever come out ahead of Kerry in these polls vs Bush. In fact Dean is usually at the bottom of the pack, with Clark, Gep and even Holy Joe doing better against Bush.

[killbotfactory]

25. "unnamed democrat" '04

a true winner.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

26. Then why don't more people support him for the nom?

These polls are so wacky.

Right now, those head-to-head numbers show ALL of our candidates losing, which is annoying. Lieberman and Kerry come closest, with a 6-7% spread, but still losing. Are people who vote in this part of the poll just supporting their own candidates? Does this mean that there are people who would vote for Bush over Dean if Dean were the nominee instead of Kerry or Lieberman? That's just crazy, and I don't see that happening. People cannot be that stupid.

I do take heart in that first graphic that shows us within the MOE of beating Bush with any Democrat.