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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-03 01:18 PM Original message |
Let's compare plans: Homeland Security |
JOHN KERRY’S PLAN TO MAKE AMERICA STRONGER AND SAFER What are the other candidates' plans for Homeland Security? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-03 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Howard Dean |
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=policy_policy_homelandsecurity
http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=policy_statement_foreign_homelandsecurity_oped
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-03 01:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. So, it seems the specifics of Dean's plan are 3 circles. |
And what are the specific proposals?
The Circle of Preparation and Response Specific proposal: Dean would use $5 billion of the Homeland Defense Trust Fund to transfer to the states. I guess Dean is hoping the governors have their own plan. The Circle of Protection Specific proposal: I must've missed it. Anyone? The Circle of Prevention This is all about foreign policy, not homeland security. http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/PageServer?pagename=policy_statement_foreign_homelandsecurity_oped This looks more like a three-ring circus than a set of specific policy proposals. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-03 04:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. This part is about homeland security |
Worse, what little the Bush administration has done domestically to try to make us safer, it has done poorly. The creation of the Department of Homeland Security has triggered a bureaucratic turf war, drawing resources and attention away from the real war on terror. The color-coded national threat advisory system has needlessly scared the public and failed to provide any useful information. No one knows what to do when the administration changes the color from yellow to orange. The administration's mistreatment and religious and ethnic profiling of Arabs and Muslims has unnecessarily alienated groups whose assistance we vitally need to win this war. I think Kerry is more specific about his plans because he's been a senator for so long, and making plans is pretty much his job, while Dean is used to setting goals and letting the legislature work out the details. But that's just a guess. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-03 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. Dennis Kucinich on Homeland Security |
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 02:39 PM by Tinoire
$550B defense budget implies more taxes
Source: Debate at Pace University in Lower Manhattan Sep 25, 2003 Cut defense budget by 15%, even if unpopular Q: As president, what would be the least popular, most right thing you would do? KUCINICH: I would move to cut the Pentagon budget by 15%, which would in no way affect adversely our national defense, and put the money into child care. And I would move to create a Department of Peace which would seek to make nonviolence an organizing principle in our society and to work with the nations of the world to make war itself archaic. Source: Debate at Pace University in Lower Manhattan Sep 25, 2003 End the ban on gays in military End the ban on openly gay, lesbian and bisexual individuals serving in the US armed forces. Source: Campaign website, www.Kucinich.us, "On The Issues" Aug 1, 2003 Terminating ABM treaty was unconstitutional Kucinich filed a lawsuit in federal district court to block the President from withdrawing from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty of 1972. The President's termination of the ABM Treaty represents an unconstitutional repeal of a law duly enacted by Congress. Source: Campaign website, www.Kucinich.us, "On The Issues" Aug 1, 2003 Violence and war are not inevitable Violence is not inevitable. War is not inevitable. Nonviolence and peace are inevitable. We can make of this world a gift of peace which will confirm the presence of universal spirit in our lives. We can send into the future the gift which will protect our children from fear, from harm, from destruction. Source: Campaign website, www.Kucinich.us, "On The Issues" Aug 1, 2003 Confront the bloat and waste in Pentagon budget The US military is the strongest in the world by far, and will remain so. But Democrats cannot lead the nation without being strong enough to confront the bloat and waste in the Pentagon budget. Our military budget is almost as big as that of all other countries combined. I don't agree with other Democrats that we can continue to increase military spending, and still deliver on our domestic agenda for middle class and working Americans. We can't. That's voodoo budgeting. Source: Campaign website, www.Kucinich.us, "On The Issues" Aug 1, 2003 Hometown Security: social spending instead of military I plan to make a major issue of hometown security -- healthcare, jobs and education for all -- and misspent Pentagon dollars, even as other Democratic candidates join President Bush in pressing for still more exorbitant military budgets. Source: Campaign website, www.Kucinich.us, "On The Issues" Aug 1, 2003 Abide by Non-Proliferation, ABM, and Test Ban Treaties We must abide by the principles of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, stop the development of new nuclear weapons, take all nuclear weapons systems off alert, and persist towards total, worldwide elimination of all nuclear weapons. Our nation must revive the Anti Ballistic Missile treaty, sign and enforce the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, abandon plans to build a so-called missile shield, and prohibit the introduction of weapons into outer space. Source: Campaign website, www.Kucinich.us, "On The Issues" Aug 1, 2003 Bush's foreign policy of preemption is destabilizing KUCINICH LIEBERMAN: I'd say how can we win this election if we send a message of weakness on defense and security after September 11, 2001? Protecting the American people's security, giving them a sense of safety, making sure people in this country are not worried when their loved ones go out to the mall, or take a train, go to a movie theater--that is the first goal of our government, and that means being strong on defense and homeland security. Source: Voted NO on $266 billion Defense Appropriations bill. Vote to pass a bill appropriating $266 billion in defense spending for FY 2000. Among other provisions the bill would allot $1.2 billion for research and development for next-generation tactical aircraft, yet would not include $1.8 billion in procurement funds for the new F-22 Raptor combat aircraft. The bill would also fund a 4.8 percent pay increase for military personnel. The bill would also allot $93.7 billion for operations and maintenance to be used to maintain military properties and spare parts that have been reduced due to overseas military combat missions. Reference: Bill introduced by Lewis, R-CA; Bill HR 2561 ; vote number 1999-334 on Jul 22, 1999 Voted NO on deploying SDI. Vote to declare it to be the policy of the United States to deploy a national missile defense. Reference: Bill introduced by Weldon, R-PA; Bill HR 4 ; vote number 1999-4 on Mar 18, 1999 Take US nuclear missiles off high alert. Kucinich sponsored the MX Missile Stand-Down Act: Title: To take the 50 Peacekeeper (MX) missiles off of high-alert status. · Requires the Secretary of Defense, during FY 2002, to remove the warheads from the 50 Peacekeeper (MX) intercontinental ballistic missiles. · Urges the Secretary to take measures to lengthen the time for launch of U.S. nuclear weapons while remaining consistent with national security. · Requires an annual report from the Secretary on the inventory of Russian nuclear forces, their alert status, and the condition of Russian early-warning systems. Source: House Resolution Sponsorship 01-HR2718 on Aug 2, 2001 End the use of anti-personnel mines. Kucinich sponsored the Landmine Elimination and Victim Assistance Act: Expresses the sense of Congress that: 1. the Department of Defense should field currently available weapons and other technologies, and use tactics and operational concepts, that provide suitable alternatives to anti-personnel mines and mixed anti-tank mine systems; and 2. the United States should end its use of such mines and join the Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on Their Destruction. 3. Amends the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1993 to make permanent (currently terminates on October 23, 2003) the prohibition on the transfer of anti-personnel landmines. 4. Directs the President to establish an interagency working group to develop a comprehensive plan for expanded mine action programs, including victim rehabilitation, social support, and economic reintegration. Source: House Resolution Sponsorship 01-HR948 on Mar 8, 2001 http://ontheissues.org/2004/Dennis_Kucinich_Homeland_Security.htm For more please see: Dennis Kucinich: Bio, Issues, Vision |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-03 02:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Is it my imagination or |
is the only thing here about Homeland Security this part:
Hometown Security: social spending instead of military Am I missing something? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-03 02:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. No security here |
This is where I disconnect from Kucinich. There isn't anything specifically wrong with any of this, but it isn't a security plan. It also isn't a plan to deal with terrorism, here or abroad. And it isn't a plan to deal with weapons proliferation by other countries. We should look at our own contribution to the tensions in the world. But we can't pretend other countries aren't making similar, and many times worse, contributions as well. We've got to confront both.
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-03 06:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Dennis's plan makes me feel secure because it will change our focus |
People create whatver they focus upon. Dennis seems to be the most enlightened of the candidates.
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DemDogs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-02-03 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. Edwards - on judiciary and intelligence |
He has had a lot to say about this and a lot of proposals.
The biggest proposal is the most important, which is to take the domestic intelligence activity away from the FBI. He would have a new domestic intelligence agency, with civil rights and civil liberties oversight, that wasn't looking for criminals. It would be looking to infiltrate the terrorist organizations. It would understand the importance of the memorandums that the FBI ignored. It would have kept track of the people who attended the Manila Al Qaeda meeting and not let them just walk off a plane in San Diego. The only way to win this fight is to win at the intelligence level or agree among ourselves that some level of casualties is okay. He is the ONLY candidate with this proposal, a proposal that really has the FBO mad at him according to news reporters last spring. His proposal for a development of a warning system that alerts people that there has been an attack or a threat of imminent attack in an area, even if the attack happens in the middle of the night was adopted. He proposes an increase in protection for the most vulnerable targets like nuclear plants and chemical plants particularly located near population centers. He raises the number of inspectors so that our ports are less porous. Only 4% of those huge containers get inspected. He has targeted grants for communications equipment and response equipment for localities and more advanced technology for mass transportation screening. He enlarges community watch programs to teach communities how to respond to likely means of terrorist attacks. His website describes it better: A New Homeland Intelligence Agency Edwards will establish a new Homeland Intelligence Agency focused entirely on intelligence gathering and analysis. The new agency will: Contain all foreign intelligence operatives working in the United States. Protect the rights of all Americans with new judicial review requirements, new public reporting requirements, and a new office of individual liberties. A Safe and Free America Edwards has strongly opposed measures by Attorney General John Ashcroft that undermine our civil liberties without increasing our security. Edwards has vocally criticized the administration policy which allows the indefinite detention of a United States citizen arrested on United States soil as an “enemy combatant” without access to a lawyer or a day in court. Help for Front Line Officers Police on the front lines need better warning information, more security clearances, and better access to newly combined federal watch lists. Under Edwards’ Anti-Terrorism Intelligence Distribution Act, first responders in different regions of every state will be carefully chosen to receive classified information on terrorist threats. More Secure State IDs Because 7 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th had fake IDs, Edwards has called for stronger basic standards for state-issued IDs. He will give states money to help do the job. Tighten Our Border Security Borders Edwards supports substantial increases in the ranks of the INS, Border Patrol, and consular officials. These officials will be specifically dedicated to fighting terrorism. Seaports Edwards has called for the use of more sophisticated screening technology at our ports. Edwards will accelerate the move to an “EZ-Pass System,” so that shippers that improve their security will move through ports more quickly. Protect The Most Vulnerable Targets Chemical Plants At 123 chemical plants, a terrorist attack could kill or injure more than 1 million people. Security at many of these plants remains weak. Edwards has fought on the Senate floor for tough new safety standards at chemical plants vulnerable to terrorist attacks. These efforts have been opposed by the chemical industry. Skyscrapers and Arenas Today, many tall buildings and arenas lack state-of-the-art security and blast-resistant materials. Edwards introduced the Building Security Act to support research into improved safety standards, building construction, and building security methods. The bill also establishes a new task force to develop improvements in a private security industry that is too often inadequately trained, screened, and supervised. Cybersecurity Edwards introduced the National Cyber Security Leadership Act to make the government's computer systems less vulnerable to attack. While today only a few federal agencies follow best practices for securing their computers against cyber attack, this Act requires all federal agencies to adopt those practices. Improve Domestic Readiness First Responders Edwards introduced legislation to provide $50 billion for cash-strapped states and local governments. Included in the funding was a $10 billion infusion for homeland security to be split between states and major cities. Then funds could be used to hire, retain, and equip police officers, firefighters and EMTs. Homeland Security Scholarships Edwards introduced legislation to offer college scholarships to students who commit to serving in shortage homeland security professions for at least five years after graduation. Improved Emergency Warnings The color-coded warning system is often more confusing than helpful and does not reach all Americans in the event of a nighttime attack. Senator Edwards’ Emergency Warning Act requires the provision of better, faster and more practical information using all available technologies, including traditional telephones, cell phones, and pagers. Getting Americans Involved Edwards will support communities that encourage every citizen to serve — for example, for a weekend each year. He has also proposed supporting neighborhood watches and enabling them to better address homeland security concerns. Edwards has introduced legislation to encourage the creation of thousands of neighborhood watch groups by 2007. <http://www.johnedwards2004.com/security.asp> |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. Does Clark have a Homeland Security plan? |
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