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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:19 PM
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Time Mag on Bush truth: "banner may portend a broader credibility problem"
"But while the banner business means little by itself, the shifting and shading could become a symbol of Bush's suddenly growing credibility problem, coming as it does in the wake of the controversy over claims in the president's State of the Union address and other pre-war speeches about Iraq's yet-to-materialize weapons of mass destruction and leaks from White House officials about the identity of a CIA operative."

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/dickerson/article/0,9565,536170,00.html

Bush's 'Bannergate' Shuffle -The White House dance over that 'Mission Accomplished' banner may portend a broader credibility problem -When George Bush landed on the deck of the U.S.S. Lincoln last spring, Democrats fibrillated. They denounced the scenes of a triumphant Commander-in-Chief surrounded by cheering troops as crassly choreographed for 30-second campaign ads, and fumed that the whole stunt had been paid for by the taxpayers. Now,the same critics can't wait to cue the tape. As American casualties mount and bombs shake Baghdad, the image of Bush's flight suit strut under a banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" is so discordant, his opponents believe, it says more about the administration's arrogance and incompetence than any stump speech could. "Never has government money been spent so well," snickers one operative for a Democratic presidential candidate.

The perfect photo-op has flopped. Engineered by the most image-conscious White House in history, the carrier landing portrayed Bush as master and commander, an ideal bookend to his spontaneous performance with a bullhorn in the rubble of the World Trade Center after 9/11. Instead, the hothouse tableau already sharply at odds with the reality in Iraq did even more damage to White House credibility last week. Asked at a news conference whether the "Mission Accomplished" banner had been prematurely boastful, the president backed away from it, saying it had been put up by the sailors and airmen of the Lincoln to celebrate their homecoming after toppling Saddam's regime.

Not long afterwards, the White House had to amend its account. The soldiers hadn't put up the sign; the White House had done the hoisting. It had also produced the banner — contrary to what senior White House officials had said for months. In the end, the White House conceded on those details, but declared them mere quibbles. The point was, they said, that the whole thing had been done at the request of the crewmembers. Even that explanation didn't sit well with some long-time Bush aides. "They (the White House) put up banners at every event that look just like that and we're supposed to believe that at this one it was the Navy that requested one?" asked a senior administration official. Others remember staffers boasting about how the president had been specifically positioned during his speech so that the banner would be captured in footage of his speech.

The administration's two-step was quickly dubbed "bannergate," winning a suffix that the partisan and the bored often use to puff up the puniest of non-scandals. But while the banner business means little by itself, the shifting and shading could become a symbol of Bush's suddenly growing credibility problem, coming as it does in the wake of the controversy over claims in the president's State of the Union address and other pre-war speeches about Iraq's yet-to-materialize weapons of mass destruction and leaks from White House officials about the identity of a CIA operative. Errant spin also undermines White House efforts to insist its account of post-war progress in Iraq is the most accurate one. "At a time when the economy is getting better and our policies are being vindicated," says a White House official, "this kind of stuff is killing us." <snip>

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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:21 PM
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1. I've said it before ...
And I'll say it again:

IT'S THE HUBRIS, STOOPID!

Gets 'em every time.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:22 PM
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2. "Money well spent" I love it!!!!!
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:24 PM
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3. bwa ha ha ha!
"This kind of stuff is killing us."

GOOD!
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:29 PM
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4. "may portend a broader credibility problem"
Aaaargh. Ya think??????

It's killing me how slow the mainstream press is to pick up on Bush's* lies and how tentative they are in pointing them out!
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:50 PM
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8. Really. The article also refers to "Bush's suddenly growing credibility..
... problem."

Suddenly growing?!? Where have these guys been!?! His credibility was shot to hell before the war.
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:29 PM
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5. NO, actually, brain surgeon....
"this kind of stuff is killing us."..

The lies that come/came out of the mouth of George W. Bush ...have and are killing thousands of innocent people, and hundreds of US troops...

But, by all means....think only about saving your political careers...yeah...we understand....NOT.
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Ress1 Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:31 PM
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6. His nose grows
with each statement out of his mouth.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 12:39 PM
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7. Another discontent?
Even that explanation didn't sit well with some long-time Bush aides. "They (the White House) put up banners at every event that look just like that and we're supposed to believe that at this one it was the Navy that requested one?" asked a senior administration official.

Someone else in the administration talking?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-03 01:14 PM
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9. oh sure, the guys onboard requested it-- just like they requested being
forced to spend another 24 hours at sea, just a few miles from shore, going in circles, so that the nitwit could "land" on the carrier (wonder how much they had to pay the pilot to say what a thrill it was having that incompetent in the cockpit?)

his "suddenly growing credibility problem"??? the man hasn't spoken an honest word in his entire political career-- why are they just "suddenly" getting around to noticing? a priori proof that there is NO such thing as a "liberal media"
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