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funkyflathead Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 11:57 PM
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Brady Campaign Savages Dean
As Governor, Dean's gun policies kept Vermont gun extremists happy. But those policies put lives at risk in Boston, Buffalo, Hartford, New York and other neighboring cities.............

http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/release.asp?Record=518


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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:01 AM
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1. Psst.
Brady is a Republican.

I hope that gives it a better perspective for ya.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:07 AM
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2. Clue for you: Dems have fought for the Brady campaign tirelessly. eom
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:18 AM
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6. Dean just had a fundraiser run...
by the founder of an anti-gun group. I wonder how he managed to pull it off:).

Of note, a $1,000-per-person lunch for Dean was hosted yesterday by Pamela Eakes, founder of Mothers Against Violence in America. Eakes is a strong gun-control supporter who has called current laws "tragically primeval."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connelly/146271_joel31.html
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a_lil_wall_fly Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 02:53 AM
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11. SahaleArm...pssst
Dean is pandering to all types to try to make everyone happy...okay...he will learn that the style of politics is bad business.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:33 AM
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8. Big clue for you:
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 12:34 AM by RUMMYisFROSTED
"I would oppose restrictions on semiautomatic firearms."
-Howard Dean's checked answer to the NRA, 1992

"I support the assault weapons ban,
I support reauthorization of the assault weapons ban."

-Howard Dean, 2003
http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/release.asp?Record=518


These two statements are not mutually exclusive. But the Brady campaign portrays them as so. Not all semiautomatic weapons are assault weapons. I know because I own a semiautomatic and it sure as hell isn't an assault weapon.

Now why would they go and do a thing like that? Hmmmm.


On edit: During a Presidential campaign, no less. More hmmmm.
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funkyflathead Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:07 AM
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3. No she is now independent
Apparently too much friction with the rwingers of the party.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:15 AM
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4. I find it very interesting
that the trace date wasn't linked. I wonder just what the other 64 crimes were. Too bad I can't find out without doing a lot of work. Gee, maybe that is why they didn't supply the link. Nah, couldn't be that.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:17 AM
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5. F*** the Brady campaign
They don't know the f-(ZIONKS!)ing difference between a semi-automatic gun and an assault weapon. Hint: THEY ARE NOT SYNONYMOUS.

Neither does Kerry either, since he made the same F-(WONKA!)ing arguement.

I would respect gun control groups like this more if they knew what the F-(WHOOP!) they were talking about.

And the F-(HEEHAW!)ing assault weapons ban wasn't even enacted until 2 years after the questionaire they site.

Rat bastards. Screw the lot of 'em.
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funkyflathead Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:20 AM
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7. That is true
the questionaire was from 1992.

In fact Dean claims to have supported the Federal ban than a state one?

Is that not Brady's position? Federal gun laws over state?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:46 AM
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9. Yes, it would be their position.
But Dean doesn't kiss their butt with anti-gun rhetoric, and had an A rating from the NRA because he never had to sign a gun law, so that makes him a child-killing devil.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 12:47 AM
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10. No shit.
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 12:54 AM by RUMMYisFROSTED
An assault weapon is an infantryman's weapon. I guess I'm in the infantry now due to my ownership of a semiauto pistol. Iraq, here I come!

If Kerry were really a hunter, he'd know this. Maybe he does and knows he's flat out bullshitting. :shrug: Pick your poison. The image:


or unadulterated bullshit. It's one of the two. Which one is it gonna be?


Image
Unadulterated bullshit
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 03:25 AM
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13. 2 shots, 2 dead birds. What a poser.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 03:18 AM
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12. Vermont Gun Laws Under Dean (Wow!)
There are major holes in the new Dean gun position. Such as the fact that he said in a 1992 NRA survey that he opposed the assault weapons ban.

And the fact that in his 10 year tenure in office he never once supported a Vermont law to require background checks for guns purchased at gun shows.

And the fact that when a gun manufacturer liability law started winding its way through the Vermont legislature two years ago, Dean never took a position on it.

So you can judge Dean by his words or you can look at the facts -- such as the fact that Vermont allows anyone to carry a concealed weapon.

Like the fact that Vermont is the only state in the union that does not bar felons from possessing firearms.

Or the fact that Vermont has no law banning the straw purchases of weapons -- and does not cooperate in federal programs where local and state governments coordinate their efforts with the feds to stop gun running.

Yes, there are few homicides in Vermont, but how many Vermont bought guns end up sold in New York, Boston or Philadelphia and in the hands of criminals? We'll never know, because Vermont makes no effort to collect such data.

You don't get an A rating from the NRA by supporting the entire gun control agenda on the table in Washington. You get that kind of grade by standing in the way of all gun control.

http://www.danconley.com/
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:14 AM
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14. Vermont "gun extremists"?
The Brady campaign is so pathetically out of touch with the reality of rural America that it's not even funny. I've lived in Vermont for a decade and I have never even heard of a single "gun extremist" in Vermont. Vermont has hunters.
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