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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:42 PM
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Kiucinich sponsors resolution asking for Rumsfeld to be axed
"Last week Kucinich introduced a resolution in the House asking for Rumstud's removal, on grounds that "the chief architect and custodian of the invasion and occupation of Iraq must be held accountable for the conduct of the war and occupation."

"....a total of 26 House members have signed on as supporters of the resolution to dump Rummy."


Full text at

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0346/mondo2.php
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:44 PM
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1. Call it leadership, call it courage, or call it another reason why I
support this noble man. Go DK!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:48 PM
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2. That's real Leadership!
Go Kooch!



“The penalty for not being involved in politics, is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.”
-Plato
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:49 PM
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3. Tell me about it
:)
Keep it up Dennis. Words cant express how much and why I support this man. It comes from a special place.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:00 PM
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4. 26 members

The full list follows:

Charles Rangel (NY), Jan Schakowsky (IL), Barbara Lee (CA), Lynn Woolsey (CA), Major Owens (NY), Julia Carson (IN), William Clay (MO), Raul Grijalva (AZ), Fortney Pete Stark (CA), Frank Pallone (NJ), Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX), Bennie Thompson (MS), George Miller (CA), Danny Davis (IL), Hilda Solis (CA), Lloyd Doggett (TX), Sherrod Brown (OH), Jerrold Nadler (NY), Maxine Waters (CA), Gregory Meeks (NY), Jim McDermott (WA), Diane Watson (CA), Barney Frank (MA), Dennis Kucinich (OH), Marcy Kaptur (OH), Luis Gutierrez (IL)

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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:02 PM
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5. Are there any Republican co-sponsors?
It doesn't look like it, but I'm not sure I know them all.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 06:10 PM
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6. So who do we want?
Someone who talks nice about issues, or someone who meets them head-on with action?

How many critical issues has Dennis addressed in Congress? You know, they don't pass. Big surprise; he is a neocon's worst nightmare. But if he weren't in there, calling this administration publicly to account for one atrocity after another, who would be? In another generation, when young americans are studying the evolution of our government, should there be anything in the record to show that GWB and his agenda did not meet with universal approval?
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 06:48 PM
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8. Right on! Once upon a time it was a woman who cast the hard votes
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 06:49 PM by Mairead
even though it cost her her office. And she's remembered to this day:



"I want to stand by my country, but I cannot vote for war. I vote no."

"You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake."
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:15 AM
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14. Jeannette Rankin!
"I knew that we were asked to vote for a commercial war, that none of the idealistic hopes would be carried out, and I was aware of the falseness of much of the propaganda. It was easy to stand against the pressure of the militarists, but very difficult to go against the friends and dear ones who felt that I was making a needless sacrifice by voting against the war, since my vote would not be a decisive one.... I said I would listen to those who wanted war and would not vote until the last opportunity and if I could see any reason for going to war I would change it." After the second roll call Rankin voted "No."

Let's see... 1917. 2002. May Dennis' career be as fruitful as hers.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 06:45 PM
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7. H. Con. Res. 323 - Full Text Here (public domain - THOMAS)
108th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. CON. RES. 323

Urging the President to immediately request the resignation of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

November 7, 2003

Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Ms. LEE, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. OWENS, Ms. CARSON of Indiana, Mr. CLAY, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. STARK, Mr. PALLONE, Ms. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. THOMPSON of Mississippi, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Ms. SOLIS, Mr. DOGGETT, Mr. BROWN of Ohio, Mr. NADLER, Ms. WATERS, Mr. MEEKS of New York, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Ms. WATSON, Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. KUCINICH, Mr. GUTIERREZ, and Ms. KAPTUR) submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

Urging the President to immediately request the resignation of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Whereas Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld is the chief architect and custodian of the invasion and occupation of Iraq;

Whereas Secretary Rumsfeld must be held accountable for the conduct of the war and the subsequent occupation;

Whereas the tragic deaths of 240 American soldiers in Iraq during the occupation, with 19 perishing in this past week, underscores Secretary Rumsfeld's gross mismanagement of his responsibilities;

Whereas by rejecting the advice of his senior military officers and sending members of the Armed Forces to war in Iraq without adequate planning and sufficient equipment, Secretary Rumsfeld has subjected members of the Armed Forces to an unacceptable level of danger, resulting in higher casualties and injuries and compromising the success of the mission;

Whereas repeated miscalculations by Secretary Rumsfeld regarding the planning and handling of the invasion and occupation, as well as the solicitation of assistance from the international community, have caused the Armed Forces to be caught in a quagmire in Iraq;

Whereas Secretary Rumsfeld has misled the American people in his assessments of the progress of the war and occupation; and

Whereas Secretary Rumsfeld has demonstrated a lack of sensitivity in his public statements regarding the war and Armed Forces casualties: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That Congress urges the President, in light of these aforementioned failures, to immediately request the resignation of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.CON.RES.323:

Non-binding, but I still give it the :thumbsup:.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:43 PM
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10. Bad Link
Please re-post
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:48 PM
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12. The link works, but DU HTML doesn't add the colon at the end
You have to copy and paste the link with the colon into your browser.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 05:57 PM
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15. nice list
Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Ms. LEE, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. OWENS, Ms. CARSON of Indiana, Mr. CLAY, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. STARK, Mr. PALLONE, Ms. EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. THOMPSON of Mississippi, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Ms. SOLIS, Mr. DOGGETT, Mr. BROWN of Ohio, Mr. NADLER, Ms. WATERS, Mr. MEEKS of New York, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Ms. WATSON, Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts, Mr. KUCINICH, Mr. GUTIERREZ, and Ms. KAPTUR) submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:39 PM
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9. Kudos to Kucinich!!


Bush with Rummy
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:46 PM
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11. The Village Voice says Charles Rangel of New York is the prime sponsor
or are they being NY centric?

Are there any other news service reports on this?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:48 PM
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13. See post #7 (n/t)
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:03 PM
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16. Off with his head! (n/t)
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