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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 09:59 AM Original message |
Erase Your Student Loans the Howard Dean Way |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. The student loan industry has turned into a huge gov't-subsidized |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. This is not a wash for the student |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Thank you! This is the kind of analysis we should be doing on EVERY |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Which college loans have 20 or 30 year terms? |
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helleborient (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. My loans and my wife's were 15 year loans... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Mine were 20 |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Where's the part that says Dean would make these loans on 10 year terms? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Right here |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. If this is a ten-year loan program |
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9119495 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. My term is 25 years! |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Thank you |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. And most of the candidates |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The tax credit is good. It's the least you can do. |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
5. I already get 40,000 a year in federal funding and loans |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 01:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. You're very fortunate |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. It's all loans, dude |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 04:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. So not "funding" |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 04:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Well, my federal loans all go through a bank, I picked Chase Manhattan |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 07:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Thanks |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. Here's Edward's plan: |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Please point out where the word bank appears in the article |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. If you're not reducing the principle, then you pay all the interest |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Are they bank loans? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. If he's not saying they aren't, I think it's safe to assume |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 11:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. There are direct loans now |
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democratreformed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I never had |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. When I paid those loans back |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It's sweet of you to think that the student loan program hasn't been |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
62. Sallie Mae |
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DemDogs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 10:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
76. Banks out in the cold -- students helped under Edwards plan |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-03 01:21 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Anyone who cares about getting people educated and worries about big banks |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. Already have income based payments |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Link? |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 12:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I had an income based plan on payback for my loans |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 01:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. would that have been due to a very low income? |
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curse10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. I wouldn't have called it very low, but I wasn't rich either |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 01:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Oh but of course |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 01:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I think if you scratch the surface of many of Dean's plans they |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 01:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You claim Dean's plan is more onerous |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 01:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Based on personal knowledge |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 06:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Several things |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 06:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Dean's plan basically says, you'll never have to pay more than 10% of |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 08:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I will give you that is a valid problem |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. It's different because a big problem with education today |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 08:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Dean's plan is awesome, |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 08:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Gee |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 09:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. BTW |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
33. Or elect Kucinich |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 02:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. That's actually sort of what they do in the UK...and it ain't good. |
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MrSoundAndVision (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Education is the best tool to maintain a free society |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I stand by my argument. |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 07:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. Like most good Labour programs abused by the Tories |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Usually your posts are better grounded than this one, AP |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 04:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. This is actually something I have a GREAT DEAL of personal experience ... |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. You've basically only repeated your assertions using different words |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. This is too obvioius. |
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snoochie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 09:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. I don't find it so cut and dry, either. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:42 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. ALL salaries are low in the UK, not just Drs and lawyers. |
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9119495 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
36. Bottom line: All the dems will help us with our education |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Bottom line: some will still give Wall St their cut of the education $ |
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9119495 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 03:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Very true. And some plans will pass a Rep Legislature |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 04:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. If you get a president who's made a career out of convincing juries of ... |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 05:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Tell that to Clinton. |
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jiacinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
52. I know this all too well |
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JeniB (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
59. With Gephardt |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-13-03 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
64. Here is a link to the pdf file which contains the detalis |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 01:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Truth in advertising: "pay for ten years and your done" because these... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 03:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. that is flat out, gold carat false |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 03:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Here's what it says: |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 04:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Another thing about Dean's plan... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 04:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. You aren't stupid |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 04:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. One of us doesn't understand this plan, and I don't think it's me. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 04:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Incidentally, another thing this plan does is that it sort of encoruages |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 05:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Another thing this plan encourages is granduates accepting low wage jobs |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 05:30 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. It is clear you are pretending you don't |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 05:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. This loan program doesn't appear to get defered if you're unemployed. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-03 01:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. For the love of Christ |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-15-03 01:17 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. It's a ten year loan |
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helmeuth (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-14-03 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
73. student loans killed my cat! |
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