Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Clark Criticizes Dean's Business Proposal

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Politics/Campaigns Donate to DU
 
Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 11:14 PM
Original message
Clark Criticizes Dean's Business Proposal
Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark criticized rival Howard Dean on Wednesday, arguing that the front-runner's business proposal is a throwback to failed Republican policies and abandons the success of former President Clinton.

The retired Army general, in the harshest assessment of a rival to date, said Dean's plan to re-regulate U.S. businesses is a major departure from Clinton, who strongly backed deregulation of energy and telecommunications markets.

"The results in the '90s spoke for themselves," Clark said at a brief news conference in which he referred to Clinton by name six times. The 1980s style "regulation is not going to get our economy moving again. It failed in the past, it will fail again."

<snip>

Clark, who has enlisted several of Clinton's economic advisers for his campaign, said the Democratic Party's hopes of toppling President Bush next year are doomed if they support more regulations.

"I don't think our party can win a general election if we abandon proven policies that have worked, that were the cornerstone of our success," he said, citing job growth and balanced budgets of the Clinton years as opposed to the deficits of the Reagan-Bush years.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20031119_1781.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
kalashnikov Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 11:57 PM
Response to Original message
1. hmmm
iam so suprised that someone with a masters degree from Oxford in economics would know so much more about regulation than an M.D.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 12:07 AM
Response to Original message
2. SEC Deregulation
There was alot of deregulation on the rules for corporations and banking and all of that in the 90's. That contributed to the economic scandals more than the deregulation of specific industries.

And on energy deregulation. The main reason Clinton wanted to deregulate energy is so new clean, renewable energy could provide the power instead of the local dirty, coal power plant. As long as the local company has a completely monopoly on the power, they have no incentive to improve their plants or invest in cleaner energy.

Unless we make them through environmental regulation and provide real R&D investment and tax incentives. Which is part of Kerry's Energy Independence Plan.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:13 AM
Response to Original message
3. Email from Clark Campaign
In today's Washington Post, Governor Howard Dean said he plans to make a major departure from the proven economic strategy that our party adopted in the 1990s under Bill Clinton, the same economic strategy that brought us more than 22 million new jobs and the strongest economy in American history.

This is an area where the differences between the choices Howard Dean and Wes Clark would make for the country are clear.

The Clinton economic approach was to create jobs, wealth and growth by bringing labor and business together - not pitting them against each other. That's the only way to create real, long-term growth for both business and workers. And the results spoke for themselves: 22 million new jobs. 1970s-style regulation is not going to get our economy going again. It failed in the past. And it will fail again.

Clark agrees that we need to dramatically ramp up our efforts to hold corporate America responsible for their misconduct. He agrees that we need to limit media ownership. He agrees that we need far stronger protections for workers, consumers and our environment - going beyond where the Clinton administration went in several respects, as times and circumstances have changed, too.

Clark's jobs plan is based on the core Clinton formula of creating jobs by investing in urgent needs and investing in our people, especially in the hard-hit manufacturing sector.

Clark proposed a $2.35 trillion Savings for America's Future plan to restore our fiscal discipline. He supports unleashing high growth job-creation sectors like high technology and why he supports a strong science and technology program.

Clark will make unprecedented investments in our human capital: in health care, in education, in job training. He will promote smart, fair, market-based incentives regulatory reforms, rather than red tape, and volumes of outdated regulations.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Clinton did have a little thing called the Internet to help out the
Economy in the 1990's.

Does Wesley Clark have something like that up his sleeves?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Understanding Clark's Comments
Edited on Thu Nov-20-03 11:01 AM by cryingshame
From what I remember... Clark would recind tax cuts AND cut Pentagon Funding by 25% and create jobs by spending on First Responders (Homeland Security) & Green Technology etc.

Krugman points out that jobs and wealth are NOT finite resource like gold or land (see his Editorial about Lumps of Labor).

Common wisdom would be to pass legislation preventing U.S. jobs from moving over seas... this is the traditional Republican view of the past and Krugman recommends that Democrats not take up this tactic at the present moment.

The best idea is to create MORE JOBS... by investing in infrastructure, first responders and new technologies.

Actually, allowing Dell to move its Technical support jobs to India is good because it creates higher wage (relatively speaking) jobs in India so they will have a stronger middle class to buy our exports.

The problem right now is Junior & Co. has done NOTHING to create jobs.

Clark spoke at the Iowa Townhall a while back and spoke about how we are now in a global economy and that older models aren't really working any more.

His solution was to require Industry to notify the Government IN ADVANCE when they move jobs overseas so that the Government can relocate & retrain workers.

Clark, in this context, made it clear that workers will have to be more flexible and mobile. If he closes a MIlitary base somewheres then the people who lose jobs may have to relocate to somewheres where a solar oven plant is opening.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #4
9. The Telecommunications 'Deregulation' Act
Which spurred investment in fiber optics, wireless and satellite technologies; funded rural internet development, allowed small local business access to corporate lines, and a whole bunch of other stuff. Not to mention tax credits for business investment and grants for schools, governments and other non-profits to wire their buildings. It didn't happen accidentally.

We need to do the same thing with the next generation of technologies, which Kerry proposes to be renewable and sustainable energy. He worked with the Democrats to do it with the internet bill so he already knows what worked well and what didn't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:28 AM
Response to Original message
5. His next step should be to criticize Dean's Iraq plan
Since Clark obviously has more credibility on that issue. And Dean's Iraq plan was last updated on April 9th.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 10:34 AM
Response to Original message
6. I'm not thrilled with this.
In fact, this is what put me back in the Dean camp.

Democrats should be speaking out about the media concentration and energy deregulation, not promoting it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. The Article Cited Here Gives No Accurate Information Whatsoever
It doesn't give us a transcript to Dean's entire speech... only a select quote from Dean.

It doesn't give us Clark's whole comment.

It doesn't give us the specifics regarding WHAT PART of Dean's plan he is critiquing.


What this article DOES give us is its writer's OWN PERSONAL characterization of what Dean said.


There is no question in my mind that the media is now trying to smear Clark by making him appear incapable of dealing with Domestic issues.

The notion of Dean as a Populist is absurd given his record as Governor in Vermont.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. It's not that simple
We can't just follow a candidate because he spouts off something that creates an emotional response. The answers to media concentration and energy deregulation are completely different. The media is easy, put the fairness act back in place or change the number of stations a corporation can own again. Energy isn't that simple because if you want to use wind farms in North Dakota to power Los Angeles, you have to have a different grid system. We've got to start looking deeper at these things to see what each candidate is going to do.

And Dean was all for Energy Deregulation in Vermont in 1998, totally behind a Senate bill that the Legislature killed. Why did he change his mind? Lots of states are deregulated and having no problem at all. California's problems were unique to their deregulation plan. What specifically does Dean see that works and doesn't work? If WE have the power, WE need to make these candidates give us the details, be consistent and answer the tough questions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 01:00 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Politics/Campaigns Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC