Before running what issues did Dean and Lieberman agree on?

[DemDogs]

The lastest discussion was on deregulation.
Are they they same tort reform, too?
I think Lieberman has actually been more of an environmentalist (although Dean has been a land conservation advocate, he hasn't been much of an environmentalist).
He was a pro-business governor, DLCer, which aligns him with Lieberman.

[demnan]

1. They agree on the abortion issue

and probably 75% of everything else domestic in nature. They don't agree on foreign policy issues.

[redqueen]

2. You've gotta be kidding.

WTH?????

[redqueen]

3. Seriously.

This really irks me... thinking that millions of people are simultaneously trashing Lieberman and supporting someone who is two-thirds of the way to being his domestic policy clone.

If anyone has any reference to back this up I'd like to see it.

Hell, I'd LOVE to use it, while campaigning for DJK! :D

However, I suspect (and hope, actually) that it's not true.

[dsc]

9. Maybe you need to know Liebernan's actually record

He has a perfect 100s from civil rights, pro choice, and enviromental groups. His only blemish on gay rights is DOMA which Kucinich supported at the time (as a candidate for Congress). He opposed both Bush tax cuts, Norton, Ashcroft, Drilling in ANWAR, and several judges. His record is no Zell Miller.

That said, Dean and he disagree on the Medicare Drug bill, Lieberman is very cozy with drug companies while Dean isn't, Dean is in favor of reinstating the accounting rules Lieberman helped gut, Lieberman favors vouchers which Dean opposes, and Lieberman is pro the current NAFTA which Dean wants to fix. On foreign policy they are light years apart was you conceed above.

[JohnKleeb]

10. Hes good on social issues I will give Lieberman that

On economics and foreign policy thats what makes me not like him. of course hes no Zell Miller, I think its his rhetoric that bothers people.

[dolstein]

13. I think many Lieberman bashers prefer to remain ignorant

After all, if these people were to discover that Lieberman has a liberal voting record on domestic issues, it would be harder for them to conscientiously portray him as the devil incarnate.

[w4rma]

14. I agree, dolstein. Note, Lieberman didn't help himself by attacking

Democrats early in the campaign, though.

That said, I think Lieberman is a great guy, in general, when he's going after Republicans instead of Democrats. :hi:

[blm]

4. They agree on Israel.

Both AIPACers.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

5. He's McGovern...He's Gingrich...He's (EEEEK) Lieberman!

What next, eh?

Seriously, I think the strongest sentiment against Lieberman here has been because of his foreign policy views, not his domestic. His IWR vote cost him, just as it is costing Kerry and Gephardt.

[JohnKleeb]

6. his economic views I hear aint too pretty either

but yes the foriegn policy views indeed are why. Gephardt at least to me has some good economic views especially on labor which make him better than Lieberman in my book. Kerry is good all around generally too. I dont know how I feel on Lieberman, I dont like him though.

[Duder]

7. Oddly enough...

IN 2002 Gephardt won a higher liberal approval rating from ADA - 90% - than did Kucinich - 80%.

[JohnKleeb]

8. Thats odd indeed

I really dont despise Gephardt keep in mind, I really like him for his labor views.

[loyalsister]

11. Gephardt supported

stem cell research.

[genius]

12. Between the two, I prefer Lieberman and I don't care much for him.

Both are too conservative for me.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

15. Let's see.

DLC.
IWR.
PA.
Homeland Security.

Lieberman supported these. Match the candidates against these votes. Three of these issues were the most important votes in Congress over the last twenty years. And maybe the most disastrous.

Edwards
Kerry
Gephardt


We are talking alignment with Lieberman, aren't we?