Feanorcurufinwe
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:36 PM
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Gephardt TV ad accuses Dean of Iraq double-talk |
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The 30-second spot, titled "Tough," juxtaposes video of Dean in a Sept. 25 debate and an Oct. 19 television interview. In the first, the moderator asks where Dean stands on the $87 billion appropriation to continue military and reconstruction efforts in Iraq.
"We have no choice, but it has to be financed by getting rid of all the president's tax cuts," Dean responds.
Nearly a month later, after he declared his opposition to the spending, video shows Dean telling reporters during an Iowa public television program: "I don't think this Iraq agreement frankly rises to the level of a big campaign issue, and I don't, I don't intend to make whether you voted for it or against the supplemental appropriation a campaign issue."
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On Monday, Dean aired the campaign's first negative ad that names a specific opponent. In it, Gephardt is slammed for coauthoring the Iraq war resolution and is shown in photographs with President Bush at the White House Rose Garden event to announce details of the resolution, which then passed with Gephardt's support.
Gephardt later voted for the $87 billion appropriation.
In the ad, Dean says, "I opposed the war in Iraq and I'm against spending another $87 billion there."
Dean's campaign supplemented the attack with mass mailings to Iowa Democrats. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/11/22/gephardt_tv_ad_accuses_dean_of_iraq_double_talk/
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Sat Nov-22-03 04:49 PM
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1. Here is a link to the Ad |
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Gep is 100% right. This is what I thought would happen.
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Feanorcurufinwe
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:04 PM
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2. Umm, you forgot to include the link... |
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:06 PM
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3. Thanks, Rose Garden Gephardt |
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:10 PM
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5. Thanks, Abuse of Power Bush |
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(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and
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Sat Nov-22-03 06:08 PM
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I didn't actually connect that. I was just remembering that Kerry and Edwards were trying to get a tax cut offset, which was more than reasonable.
Dean is trying to say get rid of ALL the tax cuts before you authorize the $87 billion?? That doesn't even make any sense, I don't know how he gets away with his babble.
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Sat Nov-22-03 07:13 PM
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6. Link to Gephardt ad on Double-Talk Dean |
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Edited on Sat Nov-22-03 07:13 PM by SahaleArm
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Sun Nov-23-03 08:00 PM
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7. Oliphant: Dean 'takes the term "misleading" to new depths' |
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HOWARD DEAN is dropping about $300,000 of his gazillions in Iowa these days on two preposterous assertions about the presidential candidate who is leading him there. One is flat-out false about Iraq, and the other sets up an assertion by Dean about himself and the postwar mess that takes the term "misleading" to new depths.
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Both points are unworthy of a serious presidential candidate. This junk is generally accepted in politics, but the situation in Iraq is too serious and deadly for tolerance of it now. As the facts show, Gephardt was no more for war than Dean was; the facts show that each of them was basically in favor of the same thing, namely bringing matters with Iraq to a climactic head. Here is what actually happened. Bush proposed a pure, blank-check resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq in September 2002. Many in Congress, Gephardt included, opposed it. Negotiations ensued, alternatives were proposed, and a month later many Democrats and nearly all Republicans agreed with Bush on a second resolution which passed overwhelmingly.
One of those alternatives -- offered by the top men on the Senate Foreign Relations, Democrat Joe Biden of Delaware and Republican Dick Lugar of Indiana -- authorized the use of force after a new UN resolution requiring Iraqi disarmament and compliance with past resolution; if UN diplomacy was exhausted it authorized unilateral action if the president declared Iraq a threat.
This alternative was not only supported by Howard Dean, it was supported by Senator John Kerry, whom Dean also attacks for being Bush's war buddy.
Lacking votes, the Biden-Lugar proposal was never formally introduced. Instead, the negotiations with Democrats produced the resolution that passed. It authorized force for several other offenses beyond prohibited weapons (including ballistic missiles, which Iraq had), but also encouraged UN involvement. The differences between the two were not huge, and each authorized war, including unilateral war. After the vote, Dean reiterated his Biden-Lugar position but did not denounce the enacted resolution until later. He also said Bush should be taken at his word that Iraq constituted a threat. http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2003/11/23/deans_negative_tilt_in_iowa
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Sun Nov-23-03 08:01 PM
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8. Glad to see you've become a Gephart supporter now! |
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Sun Nov-23-03 08:04 PM
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9. Wow! Rose-Garden Geppy is my man! |
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Arm around bush* Voting for the war!
My kind of, uhm, wait, isn't he a Dem?
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Sun Nov-23-03 08:11 PM
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10. So he and the other pro-IWR voters allege... |
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