zorkpolitics
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Wed Nov-26-03 06:21 PM
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Latest statewide poll has B*sh with a wide, 20 pt lead over opponents in FL: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-asecprezpoll25112503nov25,1,318385.storyTo win in 2004 Dean (or any other Democrat) will need to select a Southern for VP and/or focus more on NV, AZ, CO than FL.
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HereSince1628
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Wed Nov-26-03 06:25 PM
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1. to win the dem candidate will need enough electoral votes |
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Getting southern electoral votes is obviously important.
I am not so sure that requires a southern running mate, but there is a clear need for the ticket to have appeal in the south.
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Wed Nov-26-03 06:51 PM
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all OF our candidate needs is every state that Gore recieved plus Ohio, TN, NH, and we will have a landslide
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impeach the gop
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Wed Nov-26-03 06:26 PM
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2. Gee, how conveeeeeeeeeeeeenient |
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Wed Nov-26-03 06:53 PM
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I just cannot accept that as true. Of course they elected Harris to the House, but that is just one district and not the state that did not give him a majority of support in the last election.
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Wed Nov-26-03 07:42 PM
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5. it unfortunately is true |
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Jebby won re-election in FL in 2002 by 15pts!
I think the only way Florida is in play is if Graham is the VP.
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eridani
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Thu Nov-27-03 05:00 AM
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6. Jebby won re-election in FL in 2002 by 15pts! |
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With the help of conveniently programmed black box voting machines.
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dusty64
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Thu Nov-27-03 10:21 AM
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8. I find it hard to believe also. |
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Gore won Florida by a good margin, what has the regime done for Florida that would change that many people's minds?
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Fri Nov-28-03 07:43 PM
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10. Yeah! Gore won there "unofficially." How could things change like that? |
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Thu Nov-27-03 10:07 AM
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7. these early horse race polls are meaningless |
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Edited on Thu Nov-27-03 10:26 AM by CMT
because the vast majority of the people know little about our candidates so they choose the known quantity (Bush)now even though some may not really like him. The polls which pit Bush vs. unknown democrat at this stage are actually more enlightening.
for those who don't want to register here are the results of major candidates:
Bush: 56% Lieberman 36%
Bush: 59% Dean: 36%
Bush: 56% Clark 33%
So they all lose by 20-23 percent currently. It is thought that Lieberman does slightly better due to name recognition.
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Fri Nov-28-03 09:13 PM
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11. Do they have stats like that |
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Fri Nov-28-03 07:39 PM
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9. I don't see Florida in play for the dems. |
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No way. No how. Nothing will keep Jeb from stealing it again.
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bread_and_roses
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Fri Nov-28-03 09:48 PM
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12. How about some of the candidates |
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speaking loud and clear to some of the issues that might bring out minority and working class people who have opted out of the system in disgust? If they don't have the courage to tackle the insane war on drugs, how about at least talking about the racism in our criminal justice system? How about talking loud and clear about raising the minimum wage to a living wage? Or National Health Care? Or money to improve and expand our public housing so people can have a decent place to live? Jobs for the inner cities, in which people live in third world conditions? That might bring out a few voters.
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Fri Nov-28-03 09:51 PM
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13. I think a lot of the money |
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in Florida is anti-cuba, hence the WH war dance with castro . yada yada . yada yada
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Sat Nov-29-03 01:53 AM
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14. Democrats shouldn't waste their time with Florida... |
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stop there a couple of times...just to raise some money...but there is no way with Jeb's kronies in office that Florida is going to the dem(remember 2000?).
If the dems spend their time and money in Arizona, Nevada, West Virginia, Louisiana, New Hampshire and other close states...that will more than make up for losing Florida.
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Sat Nov-29-03 02:11 AM
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15. Florida has electronic voting so we'll never know. |
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Of course we could nominate a candidate everyone likes and then we'll know if they rig it. Too many Democrats will stay home with Dean on the ticket it it would be hard to figure out how many voted for him - independently of what the machines tell us.
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