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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 10:11 PM
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"John did NOT help draft the Patriot Act" - Eizabeth Edwards@Edwards Blog
Posted by Elizabeth Edwards
Friday November 28, @06:36PM


John did not author any part of the Patriot Act.

So how did this rumor start? In one of the debates Carl Cameron said this as part of a question. John answered the questioned but he failed to correct that part of the lead in to the question.

Thanks for your interest in John. As you look more closely at his message and at him as the party messenger, we are confident he will win your support.

http://blog.johnedwards2004.com/edwards/03/11/28/1019246.shtml
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 10:54 PM
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1. I think EDWARDS is GREAT VP material for Dean
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 10:56 PM by seventhson
Frankly, I might even like him better than Dean in some ways -- but Dean is more viable IMHO as Prez. == Plus the Iraq war vote.

I am VERY glad to hear this rumor about him writing the Patriot Act was NOT true
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:08 AM
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5. Hope not. As a Democrat, I can't vote for Dean. I could vote for a real
Democrat like Edwards.
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:02 PM
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2. as much as I hate you, I must admit…
just kidding.

but seriously, the more I see of Edwards, the more I like him.

I'm not gonna stop supporting Dean anytime soon, but I can easily see Edwards surpassing Clark as my 2nd choice.

:)
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:12 AM
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7. He's the kind of steady candidate we need
We will need a candidate who will be in total control when Rove Inc goes after him. So look at the candidates and decide who has been the steadiest, who has made no mistakes, and Edwards name keeps coming up. I'm for Edwards because I know he is the one who can carve Bush and still be clean as a whistle himself.

Gephardt's red-faced anger, Kerry's constantly shifting rationale, Dean's regular misstatements, Clark's freshman mistakes. If Edwards had done any of these he would be toast, but he hasn't. He has been by far the steadiest and he keeps getting better and better.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:02 AM
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3. How does this happen?
Amazing. Thanks for posting. And I loved Elizabeth's Thanksgiving Day 'overview'. Sounds like a wonderful time. I relate to the Waldorf Salad, I've got a bunch in the fridge too!
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:07 AM
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4. Probably one of these Dean rumors
I'm getting really tired of watching candidates try to fight the rumors Dean's campaign starts. BTW, good work on Edwards helping stop the energy bill and voting against cloture on the Medicare bill. Edwards is a really good guy.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:34 AM
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9. It started on the internet, at places like DU...
so you might be right;
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 10:22 AM
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13. And this is one of those rumors you start about Dean
But I'm the one with proof about you starting the rumor- your post- while you have none. In fact, your own candidates wife disputes you- she says it was Fox's Cameron. Are you calling her a liar?

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:19 PM
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16. Cameron said that in the debate about 4 weeks ago. DU'ers were spreading
the rumor MONTHS ago. Elizabeth E. isn't a liar. She just didn't know about the rumor here at DU (although she admitted on the Edwards blog that she reads DU and knows people's screen names).

Cameron was spreading the rumor on behalf of whomever started the rumor here.

Anyone with a star who knows how to search the archives should go ahead a look for people who started/repeated this rumor. It'd be interesting lesson in who's credible here at DU.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 02:22 AM
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6. So has Edwards been to California since the Democratic convention?
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 02:23 AM by genius
HIs only real problem in California, at this point, is Yucca. He voted against the $87 billion and that could help him here. Dean supports the occupation and Dean supported Yucca.

Kucinich will probably do really well in California. But a ticket with both of those candidates could really work. Kucinich would pull in the liberals and Edwards would pull in the South.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:31 AM
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8. He was in the Castro with Davis, and there was a nice crowd and everybody
liked him.

CA is NOT going to be a problem for the Dems, or, at least it's going to be a less of a problem than most other states (except that Diebold isn't getting the boot until 2006!).

CA's big democratic strength isn't lefty liberals. It's a coalition of a lot of different kinds of liberals, including, for example, immigrants. Edwards has a great chat about Robbins and how his father went there for a little economic opportunity, and now a lot of latino immigrants go there fore the same reasons, and he's fighting for them to have the same opportunities that his father had.

But to think that CA is populated with super lefties is a misimpression. Up and down the coast are people with relatively decent educations, whose parents were very likely Democrats and perhaps union members, and there are a ton of people who are the children of immigrants, who have a pretty good sense of which party is fighting for them to have a bite at the apple. The Democrat with the right class message and who's best on race is going to win these votes. Kucinich and Edwards are tied on the class message, and race is one of only two areas I'd give Edwards the nod over Kucinich.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 04:51 AM
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11. Has Edwards got any union endorsements out of curiousity?
I would envision hes up there with Gep and Kucinich on them, that is his record and vision. Most people mock Edwards for talking about his background but that background gives him perspective IMO on the problems of everyday Americans. I dont think he deserves to be mocked for it. BTW great nephew of a Steel mill worker heh, not the kinda mill that the older Edwards worked in but a mill none the less, I also read over the weekend that Edwards's father is a deacon, I didnt know that.
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 08:55 AM
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12. SC Teachers endorsed Edwards
And I read that he set SEIU convention on fire, but Dean got that nod.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:14 PM
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14. SEIU was fixed. Andy Stern looked at popularity polls and
decided to go with them rather than with any of the guys who are best on worker's rights.
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Bill of Rights Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 04:43 AM
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10. I always thought
the rumor about Edward writing the Patriot Act was hogwash. Why would the repugs let a democrat write part of their precious law? This rumor was ridiculous and I'm glad it will be put to rest. If I see any more lies being distributed regarding this, I will step in and set everyone straight.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 06:15 PM
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15. It was Daschle who was one of the writers.
Daschle is the one who lets down the Democrats again and again. Thanks to Daschle, the Medicare bill passed.
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