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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:08 PM
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Progress of The White Rose
Here are the country-by-country hits for http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org/ since Mid-March;

1. United States 167197 89.7 %
2. Canada 6228 3.3 %
3. United Kingdom 2192 1.2 %
4. Japan 1580 0.8 %
5. Germany 732 0.4 %
6. Australia 596 0.3 %
7. France 519 0.3 %
8. Finland 359 0.2 %
9. Spain 327 0.2 %
10. Brazil 310 0.2 %
11. Thailand 305 0.2 %
12. Netherlands, The 275 0.1 %
13. Sweden 236 0.1 %
14. Singapore 231 0.1 %
15. Norway 220 0.1 %
16. New Zealand 167 0.1 %
17. Belgium 148 0.1 %
18. Poland 136 0.1 %
19. Taiwan 114 0.1 %
20. Korea 113 0.1 %
21. Mexico 102 0.1 %
22. Denmark 94 0.1 %
23. Italy 81 0.0 %
24. Puerto Rico 67 0.0 %
25. Cocos (Keeling) Islands 62 0.0 %
26. Switzerland 58 0.0 %
27. Ireland 50 0.0 %
28. Czech Republic 47 0.0 %
29. Israel 41 0.0 %
30. Malaysia 35 0.0 %
31. Greece 29 0.0 %
32. Austria 26 0.0 %
33. Uruguay 24 0.0 %
34. Portugal 23 0.0 %
35. India 22 0.0 %
36. Philippines 15 0.0 %
37. Hong Kong S.A.R. 14 0.0 %
38. Saudi Arabia 14 0.0 %
39. Turkey 13 0.0 %
40. Georgia 13 0.0 %
41. Russia 9 0.0 %
42. USSR (former) 7 0.0 %
43. Egypt 7 0.0 %
44. United Arab Emirates 7 0.0 %
45. Chile 7 0.0 %
46. Croatia (Hrvatska) 6 0.0 %
47. Liechtenstein 6 0.0 %
48. Venezuela 6 0.0 %
49. Slovenia 5 0.0 %
50. Bulgaria 5 0.0 %
51. Luxembourg 5 0.0 %
52. Qatar 5 0.0 %
53. Cayman Islands 4 0.0 %
54. Colombia 4 0.0 %
55. Iceland 4 0.0 %
56. Argentina 4 0.0 %
57. Honduras 3 0.0 %
58. China 3 0.0 %
59. Kuwait 3 0.0 %
60. Costa Rica 3 0.0 %
61. Guam 3 0.0 %
62. Latvia 3 0.0 %
63. South Africa 3 0.0 %
64. Bermuda 3 0.0 %
65. Jordan 2 0.0 %
66. Romania 2 0.0 %
67. Hungary 2 0.0 %
68. Tanzania 2 0.0 %
69. Algeria 2 0.0 %
70. Peru 2 0.0 %
71. Sri Lanka 2 0.0 %
72. Nepal 2 0.0 %
73. Bosnia and Herzegovina 2 0.0 %
74. Vietnam 2 0.0 %
75. Dominican Republic 2 0.0 %
76. Cambodia 1 0.0 %
77. Barbados 1 0.0 %
78. Bahamas, The 1 0.0 %
79. Estonia 1 0.0 %
80. Ukraine 1 0.0 %
81. Kyrgyzstan 1 0.0 %
82. Burkina Faso 1 0.0 %
83. Cote D'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) 1 0.0 %
84. Albania 1 0.0 %
85. Indonesia 1 0.0 %
86. Chad 1 0.0 %
87. Tunisia 1 0.0 %
88. Maldives 1 0.0 %
89. Nigeria 1 0.0 %
90. Guatemala 1 0.0 %
91. Malta 1 0.0 %
92. Bolivia 1 0.0 %
93. Cuba 1 0.0 %
  Unknown 3516 1.9 %
  Total 186488 100.0 %
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Gephard Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:14 PM
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1. I would think Cuba would be higher.
FASCISM

1 : often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Sounds like Cuba (Castro) and North Korea (Kim Jung Il).
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:23 PM
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2. Internet access in Cuba...
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 06:24 PM by benburch
I understand that though Cuba is very literate, it is also very poor... Same reason there are so few African countries on the list, IMO.

Fascism sounds more like what we have starting HERE, to me.
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Gephard Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:25 PM
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4. Well
There is fascism of the Right and the Left.

Read the definition again.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:27 PM
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5. You are correct.
Look at Freepers.

The spew blind patriotism.

They are abjectly devoted to their leader, even when he advocates policies directly contrary to their own views. (they even change their views to match his, see Nation building)

They hate opposing viewpoints virulently.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:24 PM
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3. Cuba and North Korea are communist.
Fascism is right-wing authoritarianism. Communism is left-wing authoritarianism.

In Italy and Germany in WWII, the wealthy kept their privileged positions and property under the Nazi/Fascist states (with some exceptions, Jews notably). In Russia and China (and Cuba and North Korea), the wealthy were stripped of everything and all businesses were owned and run by the state.

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Gephard Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:27 PM
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6. The pure definition
of fascism I provided would include Cuba and North Korea. You're talking about something different.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:37 PM
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7. No I'm not.
Mussolini, as the originator of fascism, should know what fascism is.

If you want to call any repressive government fascism, feel free, but you'd better back it up with something better than a poor dictionary definition.

Check out this page.
http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm

Although a few characteristics of North Korea and Cuba exist, many don't. Corporate power is not protected, art and intellectuals aren't distained, sexism isn't rampant, religion and govt aren't intertwined.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:37 PM
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8. That's because that's a bad definition. n/t
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Gephard Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 06:47 PM
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9. Whatever
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:30 AM
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10. communism isn't necessarily authoritarian
by definition it's an economic system. However, every government wide system of communism that I can think of has turned out to be a totalitarian dictatorship. Probably because communism in it's purest form runs contrary to human nature. I think it works quite well in small groups where each individual is there willingly, like communes and so forth but I think it's unworkable on a large scale.
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