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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:27 PM
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Need opinions of CNN Lou Dobs Tonight series Exporting America!
Help!
I've been asked to be interviewed for this show,
which is focusing on the outsourcing of US jobs
overseas.

I don't trust Dobb and CNN (duh) of course,
and told the mediator so. He (a non CNN person,
another outsourced/laid off worker) assured me:

"Normally I would agree with you but Lou Dobb's has
been the most aggressive journalist in the country
trying to raise this issue. Here is a story we did how
he took Adam Smith (D-WA) to task on his program.

http://www.washtech.org/wt/news/legislative/display.php?ID_Content=4620 "

What do you guys think?
Have you seen "Exporting America"?
Do you think I'd just be the latest fresh meat
for the right wing attack journalism tactics if
I agreed to do the interview?

Thanks.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:39 PM
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1. Dobbs is GOP biased - but he also wants jobs to stay here - for this
I would trust him..

Indeed for most things I would trust him - only I'd expect a question to imply Bush doing good that I'd have to knock down.

On this topic, I do not see him using anyone to promote a spin, since his spin is that H1b's - which no one has a count on - are hurting the country, as are all the outsourcing to India of service/call centers and programing.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:39 PM
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2. Ask Lou for me how he can rationalize his past support of
free market and be against outsourced jobs since one naturally results in the other. What was he thinking? And is he sorry now?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:54 PM
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4. Talk about Business Expensing of Moving Jobs Overseas must be penalized
not paid for by the taxpayer. US trade deficit with China will soon soar from today's $100 billion + to $330 billion. GE head told all last year "China, china, China. All I want to hear is China" because of labor and environmental advantages! US Manufacturing base will be totally decimated and middle class cut by that much as workers enter the lower class.

Then there are all the high-tech and service jobs going overseas--that is the future kicker in all this.

This is the most dangerous thing about the economy and Bush is only encouraging it with his policies toward China and the fact that he is not enforcing the WTO and other trade agreements that would prevent the wholesale export of US jobs.

So the economy and the stock market could recover next year due to increased corporate profits AND THE JOB MARKET COULD CONTINUE TO HEMORRHAGE FOR YEARS.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 10:34 PM
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6. Yeah, what he said.
"So the economy and the stock market could recover next year due to increased corporate profits AND THE JOB MARKET COULD CONTINUE TO HEMORRHAGE FOR YEARS."

Now, that's a scary thought. What happens if global corporate profits rise, but the economy here in the U.S. stinks so bad that people can't get decent jobs? Did the Republicans maliciously realize that this was going to happen or was it an over-estimation of free market benefits? I don't think that it takes a master economist to figure out that this continual polarizing of our country is not a good idea given the tension that already exists.

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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 10:47 PM
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7. Good good...
This input is good!
If I end up having to do this interview thing
(shudder) then I'll need all the input I can get.

I also need to be able to articulate the precise
policies I want the US gov't to adopt (yeah, like
that'll happen...but we gotta try) to fix the mess.

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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:43 PM
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3. I think Lou has been doing a great job of making racism and xenophobia

even more acceptable than it already was.

I wish his kids would hurry up and present him with some cute beige grandchildren who will teach him Spanish.
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 10:01 PM
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11. would you feel better if the third worlders were white?
Does it really matter what the color of their skin is? The fact of the matter is that corporations are moving our jobs overseas, and our government (both Dems and GOP) are letting them do it. In fact the politicians are taking corporate bribes to let them do it. If you want to keep America from becoming just another 3rd world country, then you had better get your mind off of race, and into TCB (Taking Care of Business) for America!

The corporations and their lackeys in Wash DC are throwing up the "racist" and "xenophobe" smokescreens in order to keep the sheeple docile while they plunder our economy.....

Maybe an example will help you: America is a like a business, and we citizens are the owners. Our wages are our profits. Business owners LIKE AND WANT high profits, correct? Well, likewise, we American citizens LIKE AND WANT high wages. Guess what? Ever heard of that old thing called the "Law of Supply and Demand"? Guess how globalization and outsourcing influence the supply of labor? Take a wild guess....Now guess what happens to wages....

Now, we citizens hire managers to run our business, These managers are called "politicians" and "bureaucrats." They have a lot of power. A LOT OF POWER! Have you ever heard the phrase "power corrupts"? Well, if not, you had better give it some thought, cuz the way we have our govt set up does not allow the citizenry to do much about changing the govt (unlike other countries, such as in WEstern Europe, where they have proportional representation, so that they can more easily revamp the entire govt quickly.)

The upshot of it all is that our govt is getting rather corrupt, rather quickly. All that power, and just 2 parties, and the new leaders are pretty much determined by the media, which are OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CORPORATIONS! I refer you to the current Democratic campaign where the leaders are anointed by the press BASED ON EARLY FUNDRAISING EFFORTS! Those who get the big bucks from corporate stalking horses become the defacto favorites right off the bat!

What did you just see when you followed the start of this campaign? Did you see the same thing I saw? I saw the media report more heavily on candidates who had the most money at first. That coverage generated public exposure which then gave rise to leads in public polls. Ain't that nice and cozy?

So, do me a big favor, please: try thinking for yourself a little bit and not just reacting to whatever propaganda CorpGovMedia throws at you....

Now back to our example: what kind of business manager re-routes incoming business to competitors down the street, inside of giving it to the owners/his employers?!

Anyway, Lou Dobbs is definitely a media maverick who is in the process of ruining his career for the sake of the everyday American worker-citizen, and you and I and Myra ought to be helping him out any way we can.....
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lowfive Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-16-03 11:46 AM
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12. surely you must be joking?!
Edited on Sun Nov-16-03 11:47 AM by lowfive
a "maverick"? lou dobbs only cares about lou dobbs. and that's the bottom line; let's see him dump wall street join the grassroots.

i don't really buy the line about u.s. corportations using anti-immigrant sentiment to justify their actions - in capitalism it all comes back to profit and exploitation. i mean wal-mart going to come out and say that their critics and the justice department are anti-immigrant because they've hired undocument immigrants? i really doubt it.

anyway, DuctapeFatwa was referring to the fact that the "great american giveaway" on lou dobbs' show highlights how mexican immigrants are a)"stealing" jobs from white blue-collar workers and b)milking the system via the dole and other types of assistance.

he says stuff all about globalization & exploitation, what u.s. corporations/institutions like the IMF and world bank have done to mexico; he's only happy to say that these dirty brown people are coming over the border, and taking over.

in my book that makes lou dobbs a typical nativist bigot.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 10:19 PM
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5. Thank you guys
That was really truly helpful (and quick!) input.
I really appreciate it.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:36 AM
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8. Ask him why he wants to hurt the bottom line of his Wall Street pals?
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 01:38 AM by SoCalDem
The ONLY reason that the stock market is having a "rally" is because they continue to cut jobs of the bottom tier of workers.. They save a lot of money on benefits by exporting those jobs, thus enhancing their bottom line and boosting their stock price..

It's another fiscal "miracle".. boosted stock sales, huge savings for the CEO's to stuff into their pants.. They already burned through the svaings & loans, 401-k's and mutual funds.. the "immigration issue" is their next venture..

demonize the "brown people",stir up a little hate, get rid of those pesky "murkin" employess who actually think they should have a dental plan like the boss, and create some extra money for the big guys at the top..

It actually makes the redneck freeper types feel better is they lost their job to some "damned brown furriner"..

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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 02:58 AM
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9. Yeah, I don't understand that contradiction
It doesn't make sense for him to take an anti-
outsourcing, anti-H1 visa stance, tho' he supposedly
is doing so. Obviously I don't trust him, and don't
want to be a pawn in his little game.

Why the hell would he be taking this issue on
when it goes against his corporate master's agenda???
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dudrane Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:06 PM
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10. Well.....
I assume these jobs are mainly going to third world countries.

Generally third world countries have taken loans from the IMF and World Bank and the stipulation is that basically these institutions then takeover their economies. They then in the name of "free trade" privatize things and remove labor rights and environmental protections.

Then of course it's very convenient to move jobs to these countries.

At least that's how I see it. Not that I'm ready to be interviewed on CNN about it! (The sorts of people who are, I think are very unlikely to ever be asked.)
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