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Wed Aug-27-03 08:05 PM
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Amendments to block Ten Commandments & Pledge decisions |
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I just got this email forward. Does anyone know anything about amendments 307-119 (Pledge of Allegiance) or 260-161 (Ten Commandments) to block funding?
> ISSUE: Tired of liberal activist judges handing down rulings > that defy logic... and the U.S. Constitution? There IS a way > we can have a say in putting a stop to such nonsense. > > In an effort to block the enforcement of two recent Federal > Court decisions regarding the Pledge of Allegiance and the > Ten Commandments, the House has adopted two amendments > offered by Rep. John Hostettler (R-IN). > > The amendments to the Commerce, Justice, State and the > Judiciary appropriations bill would block federal funds from > being used to enforce court decisions that found the use of > "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional and > ordered the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court to > remove the Ten Commandments from the courthouse. > > Rep. Hostettler pointed out that the U.S. Marshals Service > executes and enforces all "lawful" orders of the U.S. > District Courts. The U.S. Marshals Service, an agency of > the U.S. Justice Department, is funded by this appropriation > bill. > > The amendment prohibiting funds for enforcement of the 9th > Circuit Court of Appeals ruling on the Pledge of Allegiance > passed 307-119. The second amendment, which blocks > enforcement of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling > that the Ten Commandments cannot be posted in the Alabama > Supreme Court building, passed 260-161. > > The framers of the Constitution never intended for the fickle > sentiments of as few as five people in black robes, unelected > and unaccountable to the people, to have the power to make > such fundamental decisions for society. That power was > crafted and reserved for the legislature, and one of the > mechanisms that was entrusted to Congress was the power of > the purse. > > They just need to be reminded to USE that power in the right > way. > > ACTION ITEM: The American people DO have a voice in these > most fundamental decisions, and we do NOT need to wait on a > new Supreme Court Justice who may or may not, today or > tomorrow, inject common sense into the decisions of the > Supreme Court. > > The Senate has yet to pass its version of the appropriations > bill. We need to tell Congress to exercise the "power of the > purse" and DEFUND the enforcement of the inane and > activistic judicial decisions on the Pledge of Allegiance > and the Ten Commandments. Go to our site below to send your > two Senators a FREE editable, pre-written letter NOW: >
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Fri Sep-26-03 07:51 AM
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DrGonzoLives
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Fri Sep-26-03 09:33 AM
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2. Let me get this straight |
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You have no problem with the government codifying into law that it is OK to put the ten commandments in a public courthouse? Or that it is required to say "under God" in the Pledge? I'm a little confused here.
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Fri Sep-26-03 06:12 PM
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I always seem to see them after they have been tombstoned.
I don't see much problem with "In god we trust" on our currency or "Under God" in the pledge of alliegence. It doesn't establish anything. Just a generic reference to god.
What I do have a problem with is with these religious nuts that think it is a constitutional right to display a monument to religion in a public building. Generic phrases and references to god are all right but when you start building monuments to religion that goes too far.
Here is an idea. Why not put the momument in a church instead of trying to put it in a public place?
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zonmoy
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Thu Oct-30-03 08:20 PM
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7. Here is an idea. Why not put the momument in a church instead of trying to |
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because their real agenda is to coerce their religion onto the entire world.
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Sat Nov-01-03 01:55 AM
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I remember hearing a classic line about religion once.
Religions are just like farts. Yours smells great and everyone else's stinks.
That pretty much sums it up.
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zonmoy
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Thu Nov-06-03 06:42 PM
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Fri Sep-26-03 11:58 AM
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It only passed the House by them law abide'n, God-fearing folk, but with the Ala. Supremes decision, and the "monoloith now in a back room, it's DOA in the Senate.
Send this line back to whomever sent this drivel to you:
There are ten commandments that should be carved in stone at every courthouse in America. They are called the "Bill of Rights."
In fact, make sure you do a "Reply all", and "Pass it on".
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Sun Oct-12-03 12:35 AM
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I especially like the comments about judicial powers - "The framers of the Constitution never intended for the fickle sentiments of as few as five people in black robes, unelected and unaccountable to the people, to have the power to make such fundamental decisions for society."
Never has there been a more perfect example of the conservative double standard. I wonder if the author considers halting a lawful ballot count, and thereby appointing a president who lost by over 500,000 votes, to be a fundamental decision for society? I suppose it's different when the issue at hand is Republican/Conservative.
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Tue Oct-14-03 02:20 PM
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Fine, I'd help tear down/move out the monuments myself, free of charge.
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