Is Bush a conservative ???

[number6]

or just a skull n bones neo-CON ILL-luminiod ...

A conservative should believe in the Constitution
and Bill of Rights, less Government.. ect...

[Avalux]

1. No

he's an IDIOT.

[ILeft]

2. Bush is more accurately labeled a "radical"

Or maybe "extremist" would be better. But of course, Bush is just a front man for others...

[quaker bill]

24. Bush

Reactionary is the term you are looking for. (A radical on the right)

[Ohio Dem]

3. No.

He's a corporatist.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. No.

He is a puppet. Puppets have no idealogies. Puppetmasters do have them, however.

[ameriphile]

5. Bingo.

n/t

[leftist_rebel1569]

18. very true

n/t

[nedlogg]

6. Bush is . . .

whatever his handlers want him to be.

[samsingh]

7. no

he's a neo-con, fascist, or a dictator.

[zonmoy]

19. why not just say the truth

and call him a nazi just as his gramps was.

[proud patriot]

8. bush is no Conservative

No Way !

[durutti]

9. He's a mainstream conservative

That is, a conservative who mixes "traditionalist conservatism...with varying portions of libertarianism or liberalism."

"Mainstream conservatives often speak the language of liberalism, especially classical liberalism. Their appeal is nonetheless conservative; typically, they reject more highly developed forms of liberalism in favor of earlier forms that retain more traces of non-liberal traditions."

Conservatism FAQ: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/conservatism/faq/

[number6]

12. no, he pretends to be...

...

[taxman_10m]

26. new addition to the faq

I don't remember seeing that last time I saw that FAQ. It seems like a weasel definition to me, such that one could be 95% "liberal" and 5% "conservative", and still have a mix.

What I would define a mainstream conservative as is someone that beleives what the majority of those that identify themselves as conservatives beleive. It's a nice way to claim the conservative mantle without having to explain why none of your principles or actions are conservative.

[piotrz82]

10. no

bush is karl rove's pretty puppet, and rove is the devil, so... the son of satan?

[number6]

11. so Bush is a....

neo con
idiot
facist
dick-tater
corpo-rat-ist
extremist
pretty puppet (Roves hand puppet) and
...what-..EVER ..his handlers want him to be..eh.
... oh..n son of satan.

[number6]

28. I would like to add...

Facist - Monopolist...

I don't beleive bush(Smirk-face) believes in a free and
open market...

[Revolutionary Mama]

13. Not conservative

He cannot possibly be conservative when he's obviously Mr. Big Government. I mean, let's look at his social programs. Now, Republicans claim to detest these programs as a waste of money and call them big government, but they do support some social programs that must end. Corporate Welfare and Charity Public Assistence for the Wealthy Elite minority.

Now, this type of minority needs to learn to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Bush and friends (along with so many other Republicans and certain Democrats... or rather Republicrats

[Barry Lyndon]

14. Bush is no Conservative

Add Jimmy Carter to Bill Clinton and subtract Monica Lewinsky, and you come up with George W. Bush.

[ashurbanippal]

15. zobi

he is against abortion, fervent christian, ultra-patriotic,...
seems pretty conservative to me!

and the fact that he blows up the budget is a result of the fact that all his actions are based on revolutionnary ideology and he is very nietschian in (and only in) the fact that he considers that the end defenately justifies the means.

[zonmoy]

34. actually

he could easily be considered a machiavellian villain.

[Agent X]

16. No

Bush has violated a number of conservative values with his policies:

Balanced Budget: An often-trumpeted goal of conservatives. The Republicans claim to be the fiscally responsible party, but the ever-soaring defecit under Bush has shown this to be wholly untrue.

Limited Government: Another classic conservative value. Yet the government has in fact grown by leaps and bounds under Bush's leadership.

Limited Spending: If there's one thing conservatives despise, it's government spending. Yet the George W. government has spent more than any other administration in history.

States Rights: Conservatives want more control given to state and local governments. Yet Bush is wielding the power of the federal government over the states through unfunded federal mandates in areas like education and homeland security. Also, Bush's boys are battling state laws they disagree with, like physician-assisted suicide and medicinal marijuana.

Anti-Imperialism: Traditional conservatives are not in favor imperialism or "nation-building." Well, guess what...?

So what do we have here? George W. did deliver with the tax cuts, but he is clearly not a traditional conservative. He is a right-wing zealot who believes he is doing God's work.

P.S. He is not "compassionate" either.

[Siagiah]

20. I think you are right on target Agent X..

I would only add that he is also a mere PUPPET. Simply Pinocchio Bush brought to life. The favored son of an intelligent man who still wields the power behind the throne along with a shadow world of people whose names I'm sure we've never heard of. He's yanked by well over 100 million $tring$.

[number6]

23. good post ..Agent X ...

:thumbsup: :smoke:

[JohnKleeb]

17. reactionary?

[ThomWV]

21. No Shit

I have been arguing for the past year and a half that true Conservatives hare misplaced their loyalty in the whistle-ass, and point by point the case can be made that his actions and their results have not supported traditional conservative ideals, but I might as well be talking to a pile of rocks. For most of them its a linkage they make in their minds behind his vocal christian identity and their own faith and they like that in him so the accept his conservative failings as baggage. Besides you have to remember this, most of them don't really know that he has failed on point after point. They have one or two issues they keep abreast of but really don't see the bigger picture of how out of tune with their real base phylosophy Bush is.

Thom

[LonelyLRLiberal]

36. Well said . . . this is so frustrating

There are so many, many people in this country who will forgive a politician anything as long as they believe the idiot is a "Christian". These people are so uninformed. Maybe it is because they have "faith" -- what a perversion and a cop-out.

[TheYellowDog]

22. To tell the truth

I don't think Bush cares about anything political. He only cares about power, and getting re-elected is necessary to keep his power. He would sign anything Congress gives him even if he doesnt't like it, because he just doesn't care. He doesn't care about abortion either way, and if the religious right was pro-choice, or he needed pro-choicers to win, he would be pro-choice too. There are other examples like this. His positions are not based on how he feels, but just about power. It's all power.

[quaker bill]

25. Here is the deal

Bush is a niether a conservative nor a liberal. He is a whistle-ass corporatist.

He is a "c" student from Yale with a "c" student's understanding of any ideology.

The conservative bit is nothing but "bread and circus" for mass consumption. He needs that base vote so he will do a few symbolic things to get it.

What he pays true homage to are the things that will put money in his and his friends pockets. Check out the "no-bid" contracts. Look at the growth of government under his watch (by outsource contracts). Read the patriot act. Nothing conservative here.

He adopts any portion of any political philosophy that results in mo-money, mo-money, mo-money - - - for his buddies.

[SecondComing]

27. Conservative?

The "man" (using the term loosley) hasn't the room
between his jug ears to have an ideology. Hell, without a
teleprompter he can't even speak coherently.

Personally, I think that it is the result of a combination of
excessive drug and alcohol use, bad genes, and an overbearing
mother.

How people are taken in by the idiot monkey puppet will be
written about and mused over for generations if he doesn't
kill us all to bring his happy appocalypse "on."

[sujan]

29. yes

[number6]

30. take a look at this...

http://www.conservativesagainstbush.com/

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[Maddy McCall]

32. Buh bye

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[number6]

37. some more to ponder....

http://forum.c0balt.com/viewforum.php?f=1

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2727.html

[jonoboy]

38. just an airhead

with no substance..not a genuine Conservative

[amber dog democrat]

39. No. He's a more a fascist crook

What moral or conservative principles does he suscribe to?
Chimpie is just shy of becoming a right wing dictator.
Its all about power.