'Great Depression' Solution/Climate

[Exodus 3-14]

I wonder if it is possible to defer our Debt Re-payments, and 'Re-Value' our Currency, by making the case that the 'Old Economies'(linked to the Oil Paridigm which has now pushed us to our 'CO2' Tipping Point of '385' ppm) will devalue/depreciate along with their currencies, and that those Economies that are linked to 'Green'(per se) will Appreciate(along with their currencies).

If we could convey the present Climate(Eco-System Collapse) Crisis for what it portends(in the short time-line that we have left), we could dissolve Global Divisions, and get everyone into the vortex of understanding that will allow us to have the kind of co-operation necessary to survive(let alone end the War in Middle East and elsewhere, and create 100% total full employment as we focus on 'One Thing'/Salvation).

Barring this simple understanding, we risk both a Great Depression(which will dwarf that of the 1930's), and most likely a major conflagration/War to bring us out of each of these issues.
*If that happens(War), we will certainly pass this Tipping Point of No Return(since War has exponential values of 'CO2' as a consequence).

[Exodus 3-14]

1. End of Times

Barring anyone comprehending what I'm trying to say(and having this carried through), we will end up in a global conflict which will be the last(and CO2 levels will become so high that Earth will turn into Venus in a short time span).

So, I may talk a bit different from most of you, but I'm telling you the truth; there is absolutely nothing(no issue) greater and more important than the Climate right now, and it really is much worse, this is our Eco-System that is failing.

I won't waste my breath on people of my political persuasion if they are going to continue to mock(as on other forums here), or 'just not get it'.

good luck otherwise,,,,, cause we are in for a wild treacherous ride(globally soon).

'Food War'/Water Wars,,, and much worse.

If not 'Now', then 'When'?
My ideas will create 100% employment(let alone end all Wars).

[tom_paine]

2. There is still a chance this won't happen quite so badly, but it is slim indeed.

Have you read "Under a Green Sky"? If not, it certainly is an informative and worthwhile read by one of the nations foremost eco-paleontologists.

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Green-Sky-Warming-Extinctions/dp/0061137928/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208558914&sr=8-1

And yes, if the current trends remain unreversed. If we, as I believe we will, respond to the first impacts of the crisis by rushing in and drilling the newly melted Arctic, as well as exploting tar sands, oil shale, and the rest of the stuff which is so very much more devastating, from a CO2 and pollution perspective (while having a much lower EROI - Energy Return on (energy) Investment) compared to drilled oil, then our fate approaches a 99.99% certainty.

Unfortunately, it certainly seems as if that is the course we will collectively take.

Funny thing is, here in the Bush-Occupied Amerikan Empire, we have lost our democratic-republic, our System of Checks and Balances, our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and our ability for self-determination ultimately, just at the moment we needed them most.

Everything, everything, depends on restoring the old, free United States of America and liberating us from our Bushie Masters, and from their designated successor McBush. Unlike the 1930s Germans, we cannot have a reasonable expectation of that (plus I am not sure I would want that even an Allies vs. Bushie/China/Putin Axis style liberation of our nation was even possible - either we save ourselves or not at all...and that probably means not at all).

And if you should think that my comparisons of Bushies to Nazis is "over-the-top" hyperbole, then please feel free to click on either of my two signature links or most especially this one here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml

In either case, you are most likely correct, yet we still cling to that thin ray of hope that is so thin, in the face of reality, that it almost seems like deux ex machina, not hope.

Excellent post. And Welcome to DU. :toast:

[Exodus 3-14]

3. 'Salvation'

Thankyou for you greeting.
I have little time left. Let alone being isolated to the Libraries computer, I will be most likely on the street in one week(and I don't want to live that way-- so I have a tough choice to make very soon).
I really believe there is something to this idea I wrote in another thread about using the reverse principle of 'Sono-Luminenscence' as a driving force for the Global Economy(its basically the mechanism by which the universe operates; please read that other thread).

I really did have a Prophetic Vision 1 1/2 years ago, and all '6' Revelations came true(all related to Climate- an issue I never paid attention to).
I lost a 19 year job because of both the Spiritual experience, and obssessing on 'CO2' levels.
...."go figure"(I guess because I thought I was the Mashiach at the time).