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junker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:04 PM
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US Software Industy to outsource 90% of all jobs in 2004
Here it is in very ugly black and white stats.....this is from commentary at Lemetropolecafe.com
Sign up for a free two week trial and read/weep it for your self...

I know the truth of it having been in software over 15 years and now out. Never seen any industry die this quick.

excerpt of little bear commentary which references this.


"The Chilling Truth Behind the Demise of the American Software Industry"


http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/Summary.pdf


……. is written by Norman Matloff, a professor of computer science at the University of California, Davis, and details the loss of American jobs in the computer software programming field. Within this essay is contained the chilling sentence:


Due to a combination of H-1B, L-1 and offshoring, the American software developer will become extinct within the next few years. The percentage of new programmer jobs going to H-1Bs and L-1s has shown a sharp upward trend in recent years. The Commerce Dept. says 28% of the programmer jobs during 1996-1998 went to H-1Bs;17 the Federal Reserve Bank gave a 50% figure for 1999;18 and my very rough calculations, based on an attempt to piece together different types of data, suggest a figure as high as 90% for 2001. Jon Piot, COO of the Impact Innovations Group, even estimates a precise date at which the "extinction" of the American programmer will occur—2006.19 Given the flurry of current activity in which many American programmers are being laid off and replaced by H-1Bs/L-1s, that date may need to be revised to an earlier one.


• I am using the term American to mean U.S. citizens (native or naturalized) and permanent residents.


In particular, he deals with the H-1B and L-1 programs
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:17 PM
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1. Its going to be interesting to see what happens when
we eventually depend on people in other countries to program everything here for us, isn't it? In effect, we'll be allowing them to indirectly run our country.

And what happens if we need something that happens to be in direct opposition to their own politics or national interest?

This is a major mistake.
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JailForBush Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:20 PM
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2. There's a Simple Solution:
Just switch from Microsoft to Apple or Linux. Then Bill Gates won't have ANYTHING to tie him to the United States. Maybe he'll take the hint and leave.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:30 PM
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3. Lots of gen-x will be disappointed
The younger generations were looking to the tech sector to make their fortunes.

What will they do now?
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:37 PM
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4. Don't know about my fellow GenXers...but the....
so-called "millenials" will graduate high school and head straight
to the draft...
The militarization of America has begun...
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:53 PM
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5. the us still needs MCSE's heh
some dumbfuck in india making 70 cents an hour cant set up a network in the u.s.
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:31 PM
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7. being from india doesn't make them a dumb@#$
I don't blame these people, i blame the corporations that put profit over people. Be careful who you point your finger at, it makes you look like a certain group of people who judge others based on a nationality instead of that person's actions.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:25 PM
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8. Maybe
But isn't there some government program whereby one can sort of import foreign software engineers?
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-03 12:22 AM
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9. yes, but it's irrelevant to the point i am making..
calling someone a dumbfuck just because they are trying to make a living in their own country is stupid.


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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 07:03 PM
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6. So, how is Jr. and his friends going to start their wars
when they depend on those countries for what they need to fight their wars?
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