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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:02 AM
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President Obama, Please Stop the Exportation of Our Jobs

What we need to ask President Obama to do is
stop the export of American Jobs.





What good does it do to give Citibank and others billions of dollars when
the first thing the "bail-ees" do is turn around and cut 25,000 jobs?

And where do those jobs go?

To foreign countries.

Thanks to -

Tax breaks to the companies that export jobs, and

to the Foreign Lobbyist groups

Ours is one of few if any countries that allows foreign countries to send
lobbyists to work on our representatives.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:04 AM
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1. Kick
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:05 AM
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2. Do yourself a favor.
Look up Obama's "stimulus package" or "plan" on google, or anywhere. He's working on it.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:08 AM
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3. I haven't seen him talk about stopping the offshoring.
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 02:09 AM by WillYourVoteBCounted
I hope he can stop the exportation of jobs, because many people see that trend continuing.

And shame on Citibank for cutting 25,000 jobs right after getting its bailout.

No bailout for people who need a job.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:13 AM
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4.  Will Congress, Obama stop outsourcing jobs?
"President-elect Barack Obama’s positions are in line with those of leading Congressional Democrats,
who express angst about trade with China but take no action,"



December 16, 2008 Will Congress, Obama stop outsourcing jobs?

WASHINGTON — There is a weird clash of trends on American jobs, and foreign trade. While American manufacturing output is near record lows, the People's Republic of China is increasing its manufacturing exports to the U.S.

On Jan. 21, there will be a Democratic president backed by a Democratic Congress for the first time in 15 years. The last time this happened, President Clinton got the North American Free Trade Agreement passed, and began the process that opened American markets to cheap, subsidized Chinese exports.

During his primary and general election campaigns, Barack Obama was critical of the trade policies of Republican President Bush, but offered no criticism of what Clinton did to American manufacturing by passing NAFTA and loosening restrictions on Chinese exports.

Obama criticized NAFTA and said he wants to renegotiate the treaty. His campaign platform documents put revising our liberalized trade codes and behavior on a high plane. However, his transition Website, www.change.gov, seems to have downgraded the issue, making it a lowly subdivision of his policies on the economy.

...more at the link

http://buffalonews.typepad.com/politics_now/2008/12/will-congress-2.html
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:17 AM
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5. I don't have a clue. Do you? I'm hoping, as an organized person and
administrator, he tackles the "REALLY BIG" problems first, and then gets to the really important and pressing problems next. Sorry, but there has to be a list of priorities, and yours might not be his.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:51 AM
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7. Big Banks look to offshore 80% of clerical work
that has to stop. Its dangerous anyway to send our bank data to private contractors
in India.

The Banks don't let on how much info is being handled overseas.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:06 AM
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8. You're kidding, right?
No, I know you aren't. There are so many industries doing this because it's cheaper. I get why, I don't know how to fix it other than to make it illegal to outsource jobs. Could that happen? I don't know.

Or,

Yes I do. Make it illegal. Once we have a new president, maybe he will. He's not there yet. 22 more days, my dear. We shall see.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:48 AM
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6. and the importation of people.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:09 AM
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9. Obama won't do a damn thing about it
count on it
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:55 PM
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17. Im not here to criticize Obama, just to put the issue back out there
I am a big time Obama fan. But we need to make a stink about offshoring jobs,
not blaming Obama, but making it so that the media can't hide it.

Obama didn't offshore the jobs.

I repeat, I am a huge fan of Obama's but we have to make noise about this issue.
Its not that I don't think he will do anything, its that we need the rest of the public
to be crying out to stop the offshoring.

I don't mean outlaw offshoring, but shore as hell don't reward it in any way.

As for incentives, they should only go to the businesses that hire here at home.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:09 AM
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10. What he's said about free trade
"There are some who believe that we must try to turn back the clock on this new world; that the only chance to maintain our living standards is to build a fortress around America; to stop trading with other countries, shut down immigration, and rely on old industries. I disagree. Not only is it impossible to turn back the tide of globalization, but efforts to do so can make us worse off.

"Rather than fear the future, we must embrace it. I have no doubt that America can compete--and succeed--in the 21st century. And I know as well that more than anything else, success will depend not on our government, but on the dynamism, determination, and innovation of the American people."

"Allowing subsidized and unfairly traded products to flood our markets is not free trade."

"Globalization is here. And we should be trading around the world. We don’t want to just be standing still while the rest of the world is out there taking the steps that it needs to in order to expand trade."

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Free_Trade.htm
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:27 AM
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11. Better make it bringing the jobs back here; there are probably very few left to
outsource.

It is total B.S. that any foreign lobbyists are allowed near OUR reps!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:46 AM
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12. We need to equalize benefits, wages, regulations
So that we're all on the same playing field so that people in other countries don't live in poverty and so that we can compete.

We're supposed to be the investor class. Unfortunately, nobody told the US servant class, and the investor class fucked up the plan by trying to suck mortgage blood out of servant turnips.
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Citizen Number 9 Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:17 PM
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20. Okay, but at the risk of being just a bit glib,
didn't the turnips certify (in the presence of a notary, no less) that they were substantially fatter and juicier than they actually were?

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 06:27 AM
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13. You guys never heard him talk about tax incentives for companies that keep jobs here, did you?
Or ending tax breaks to those who export them?

I did.

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Citizen Number 9 Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:46 AM
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15. Right On...
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 10:47 AM by Citizen Number 9
I think he mentioned it nearly every time he spoke. How could you miss it?

And, it's on his policy website;

"End Tax Breaks for Companies that Send Jobs Overseas: Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe that companies should not get billions of dollars in tax deductions for moving their operations overseas. Obama and Biden will also fight to ensure that public contracts are awarded to companies that are committed to American workers."

"Reward Companies that Support American Workers: Barack Obama introduced the Patriot Employer Act of 2007 with Senators Richard Durbin (D-IL) and Sherrod Brown (D-OH) to reward companies that create good jobs with good benefits for American workers. The legislation would provide a tax credit to companies that maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in America relative to those outside the US; maintain their corporate headquarters in America if it has ever been in America; pay decent wages; prepare workers for retirement; provide health insurance; and support employees who serve in the military."


I hope you guys will be lining up to back President Obama and VP Biden and not letting your support waiver at every little thing for the next 4 years.
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:11 PM
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19. "I hope you guys will be lining up to back President Obama and VP Biden"
Er, no thanks. I don't line up to back any politician and happily, I have no "support" to waiver. Politicians are public servants. They need to be held accountable at every juncture and on every issue. I'm a citizen, not a supporter or fan or cheerleader or apparatchik. That being said, I don't fault Obama on this -- he's a politician who said a bunch of things to get elected and I don't seriously believe he'll stand up to corporate interests out of the goodness of his heart. Then again, it's not his job to do that. It's our job to make sure he does -- a politician is not going to do it on his own.
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blue97keet Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:44 AM
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14. plumbing problem
Our economic policy ammounts to this: first drain off puchasing power (jobs and wages) with a massive trade deficit, then try to pump up consumption with easy credit, preditory lending and deficit spending by the trillions and bailing everybody out. The result is the financial meltdown. It is a simple plumbing problem.
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Citizen Number 9 Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:34 PM
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16. Oh...I get it....another one of those conspiracy things....
First, "the man" takes away everyone's jobs and pays them nothing so they can't buy anything by having them buy everything (from abroad).

Then, "the man" gives everyone a lot of money through easy credit so they can buy everything they haven't already bought, but then, "the man" preys on them to get (their money?) and has the government spend huge amounts to give everybody money and bail them out.

(Head now spinning) I'm not so sure it's such a simple problem...
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:11 PM
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18. Yes..saw a news program this morning about this issue.....
..it said that a strong manufacturing base is the only way for our economy to recover... but that there are TAX BREAKS now in place which reward companies who move jobs to China.

This does not mean "protectionism". It seems more like "common sense".

Wouldn't it be a simple thing to reverse these tax breaks so that companies are rewarded for bringing jobs here? Seems like all it would take would be a stroke of the pen.. just 'sayin.
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