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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:29 AM
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With all this anger and rage about AIG, are we missing something?
The past few threads have now been about who to blame for the bonuses, I'm wondering if we aren't being lead astray again by the GOP-controlled media.

Yes, the AIG bonuses are disgraceful, but they certainly are not the worst part of the Bush Administration legacy (nor are they anything to brush off).

Are we being encouraged to focus on AIG at the expense of forgetting what stories?

Who is behind screwing over the economy? The high unemployment?

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:35 AM
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1. I think you have a point that should be investigated. n/t
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:39 AM
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2. I can multitask.
I'm pissed off about all of it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:47 AM
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3. I was reading this excellent post
Median Democrat (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-17-09 10:28 PM
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Flashback - September 2008 - Bush/Paulson Announce $85 Billion Rescue Of AIG - No Regulations!
The one problem about bonus-gate is that it obscures the fact that the whole AIG fiasco is the culmination of years of hands-off regulation by the Bush administration. The bonus contracts were handed out during the Bush administration. The ponzi scheme that formed the AIG business model was formed during the Bush presidency. The AIG collapse took place under the Bush administration. Yet, these cogent facts are ignored as the media focuses on the bonuses, which constitute less than two percent of the total bailout, and tries to pin this on the Obama administration. Hey, are we forgetting how AIG went bust in the first place? It was due to deregulation, which is continually championed by Republicans even now. Worse, the Bush administration knew about AIG's troubles long before it finally bailed them out in September 2008, but did nothing.

Yet, the media focuses on the bonuses AND their are calls for Tim Geithner to resign? WTF about Paulson and Bernanke who slept walk through the events the lead to the crisis. Where were the calls for resignation by the corporate media back then? Again, the media shows the double standard being applied to Democratic administrations.
More.... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8268445

Example....The NYT then,

09/17/08
WASHINGTON — Fearing a financial crisis worldwide, the Federal Reserve reversed course on Tuesday and agreed to an $85 billion bailout that would give the government control of the troubled insurance giant American International Group.

The decision, only two weeks after the Treasury took over the federally chartered mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, is the most radical intervention in private business in the central bank’s history.

With time running out after A.I.G. failed to get a bank loan to avoid bankruptcy, Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. and the Fed chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, convened a meeting with House and Senate leaders on Capitol Hill about 6:30 p.m. Tuesday to explain the rescue plan. They emerged just after 7:30 p.m. with Mr. Paulson and Mr. Bernanke looking grim, but with top lawmakers initially expressing support for the plan. But the bailout is likely to prove controversial, because it effectively puts taxpayer money at risk while protecting bad investments made by A.I.G. and other institutions it does business with.

What frightened Fed and Treasury officials was not simply the prospect of another giant corporate bankruptcy, but A.I.G.’s role as an enormous provider of esoteric financial insurance contracts to investors who bought complex debt securities. They effectively required A.I.G. to cover losses suffered by the buyers in the event the securities defaulted. It meant A.I.G. was potentially on the hook for billions of dollars’ worth of risky securities that were once considered safe.

If A.I.G. had collapsed — and been unable to pay all of its insurance claims — institutional investors around the world would have been instantly forced to reappraise the value of those securities, and that in turn would have reduced their own capital and the value of their own debt. Small investors, including anyone who owned money market funds with A.I.G. securities, could have been hurt, too. And some insurance policy holders were worried, even though they have some protections.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/business/17insure.html?_r=1
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 02:53 AM
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8. IMO, you're wasting your time defending Geithner.
You are a smart person, Frenchie. Geithner has not served President Obama well. I still think that Obama may have set Geithner up to fail so that he can be replaced by someone a bit less beholden to Wall Street.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:48 AM
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4. I haven't researched this yet,
but a friend of mine (who has other friends) told me that AIG was saved because a lot of congress critters' retirements were tied up there. Anyone else know if this is true?
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:49 AM
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5. AIG, Bernanke, Paulson, Geithner, Bush, Congress, Obama....
ALL OF THE ABOVE (and more).
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sreid01 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 01:53 AM
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6. I think an investigation needs to be done
The how's and why's need to be looked at until there are some real answers to this AIG mess and the economy. Nobody is saying anything about investigation. We're hampered down with current issues.

http://pep-boys-pars-search.blogspot.com/2008/12/3-reasons-to-search-for-pep-boys-auto.html">Pep Boys Auto
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 02:46 AM
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7. Post #2 above is correct that we should be able to multi-task.
But, there is a tendency that the GOP-controlled media has of focusing on one story at the expense of everything else--no matter how important other stories are.

Everything that's happening is important, but the GOP-controlled media never discusses everything that's going on--even if it's just reading headlines. All the 24-hour news channels do anymore is one story 24/7.

Oh, welcome to DU.

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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 08:32 AM
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9. Same with the earmarks and the budget...
Edited on Wed Mar-18-09 08:33 AM by wuvuj
...keep you occupied with the small stuff....so the biggies get by?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 07:00 PM
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14. Good point. n/t
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:19 AM
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10. Yeah, we're missing $180 biliion n/t
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ww2player Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:46 AM
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11. WATCH THIS VIDEO!!
Hedge Funds and the Global Economic Meltdown
by Judd Bagley

http://vimeo.com/3722293

Learn how some of the financial companies are being destroyed, along with the publics investments.

Counterfit shares is at the heart of some of this countries problems.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 02:56 PM
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12. If it's on the GOP-controlled media, it's a diversion or a lie.
Never in my life would I imagine things could ever be so cut-and-dried.

But they are.

TV is and always has been a liar. Now, it's far worse than it ever was, thanks to a 30-years of Bushiganda.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 04:07 PM
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13. So true.
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