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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:26 PM
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Ignore Dow 10,000, The Economic Scoreboard Is Still Horrible
Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 05:27 PM by girl gone mad
One for the pessimists (realists?), from Harvard Business professor Bill George:

Ignore Dow 10,000, The Economic Scoreboard Is Still Horrible
http://www.billgeorge.org/page/why-the-10000-point-dow-doesnt-matter1">billgeorge.org


The Dow is at 10,000. Reporters glow. Retirees relax. Investors sigh: “Whew, we’ve made it.”

They’re wrong. This purported milestone isn’t a victory. It’s nonsense.

The market is the wrong place to look when measuring the health of our economy. The collective wisdom of mutual fund analysts was wrong in 1999, wrong in 2006, and it’s wrong right now.

The best investor in the United States basically ignores Wall Street. Warren Buffett has billions he could trade in and out of stocks. Thousands of analysts would clamor to give him hot tips. But Buffett ignores it all. Serene, he sits in his office, reading annual reports, newspapers, and thinking about opportunities for growth. He isn’t drinking champagne tonight. And you shouldn’t be either.

We are far from out of the woods. Large companies are still laying off employees. When we cross the 10% unemployment line, consumer spending (now down to 70% of GDP) may contract even further. It probably should. Consumer spending in the UK is 65% and in China it’s only 40%.

Haven’t we learned something from this crisis?? Wall Street sold the world worthless securities, trillions of dollars of wealth evaporated, and now Wall Street is cheering this “new” bull market. Now the bulls say it’s all okay again?!

What you’re watching now is a bull market on government spending. What you should be watching is the real report card:

  • Inflation: There is $50T in unfunded liabilities on the country’s balance sheet. If the USA played by corporate America’s accounting rules, we’d be bankrupt. The laws of gravity still apply. We will experience significant inflation within 3 years.
  • Job Growth: Since the start of the recession in December 2007, we’ve lost 7.6 million jobs. Millions more have stopped looking for work. The analysts keep saying this downward trend will stop. But it hasn’t.
  • Innovation: The credit contraction makes it harder for entrepreneurs and small businesses to invest in growth. This segment of the economy is where a rebound will start. Don’t watch the Dow, watch small business credit (contracting) and patents filed (contracting).
  • Education: The important word in “Gross Domestic Product” is product. We must have highly skilled knowledge workers to compete against other economic innovators. A third of high school students aren’t graduating. This is the HR pipeline??


Yes, we have stepped back from the abyss. But some very smart people thought the same thing in 1932. Then 1933 happened. Not so fast, Wall Street…

This battle is far from over. Let’s dig deep, focus on the long haul, and make the substantive policy and business improvements the economy needs to really rebuild. Then, the Dow will take care of itself.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:31 PM
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1. Sounds like the Wizard of Oz...
But you are right, though we have reached Oz, Dorothy still has to throw water on the Witch, melt her, and bring back jobs.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:33 PM
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those who think the rise is bound to retrace
need to put their money where there mouth is and short the market.

i have, fwiw. as of the close today.

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:41 PM
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3. Well, I don't have the money to put in the market, unless it the one down the street...
where they sell food discounted with coupons.

Jobs are a lagging indicator, and they are lagging badly.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:05 PM
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7. So did I
at the close as well. Tomorrow may be interesting. I wonder if a group sentiment developed on this move (I'm out when it gets back to 10,000).
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:33 PM
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2. The author ignores the psychological impact of a steadily rising market..
The ONLY aspect of the market that leads to new hiring by small and medium sized businesses.

These financial experts can stick it as far as I'm concerned, they're not "smart" at all.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:02 PM
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5. Well said
but the bottom line is, there is no more "steadily rising market" and probably has not been since 1979. If (admittedly big if) "real" economy, meaning energy consumption and demand of the globalized economic system starts growing again anytime soon (enough), so will energy (oil) price and hit the pain treshold that pushes growth in consumerism into new depression. And that second wawe of this "Final Depression", my friend, will do wonders to the "psychological impact of a steadily rising market.." :)
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:04 PM
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6. That doesn't explain..
the recent "jobless recoveries" during steadily rising markets:




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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:34 PM
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8. When I see them hiring I'll believe that.
We've had too many "jobless recoveries" in recent history for me not to suspect this may be another one.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:43 PM
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9. But the jobs do eventually come back in every case.
It's CW that jobs are a lagging indicator. I submit American history as the proof.

I hope small business owners aren't as cynical as you apparently are.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:56 PM
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10. Cynicism has nothing to do with it.
It's things like this that actually matter:

Banks Clamp Down on Small Business Loans, Jeopardizing Jobs
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2009/10/banks-clamp-down-on-small-business-loans-jeopardizing-jobs.html

Small businesses have fair weather friends.

Policymakers love to extol entrepreneurship. And in the last business cycle, even in the upswing, large corporations shed jobs while mid-sized and particularly small businesses added them. But when things get ugly, the best connected players get the breaks, and the little guy is left out in the cold.

The latest evidence is an amusingly schizophrenic set of headlines in the New York Times. A story by Eric Dash tells us, “Pace Slows on Losses for Banks“:

    Just a year ago, many of the nation’s biggest banks were in such bad shape that their losses threatened to topple the financial system.

    Today, by all appearances, their vast problems seem to be easing: a seven-month rally in financial stocks has driven the shares of Citigroup and other troubled behemoths up sharply. And the economy has shown modest improvement, slowing losses that only recently threatened the survival of some big banks….

    “There is more pain to come, but they have enough Band-Aids and tourniquets to slow or cut off the bleeding,” said David A. Hendler, a financial services analyst at CreditSights in New York.


In fairness, the article is only cautiously optimistic, but it still has a “the worst is over” subtext.

But the article by Peter Goodman on small business lending makes clear that the banks are not taking any chances:

    Many small and midsize American businesses are still struggling to secure bank loans, impeding their expansion plans and constraining overall economic growth, even as the country tentatively rises from its recessionary depths.

    Most banks expect their lending standards to remain tighter than the levels of the last decade until at least the middle of 2010, according to a survey of senior loan officers conducted by the Federal Reserve Board. The enduring credit squeeze appears to reflect an aversion to risk among lenders confronting great uncertainty about the economy rather than any lingering effects of the panic that gripped financial markets last fall…..

    Some 14 percent of small businesses found loans harder to secure in August than in July, according to the most recent survey by the National Federation of Independent Business. Among companies borrowing regularly, less than one-third reported that all their credit needs were being met.


Yves here. Notice the “great uncertainty about the economy.” Translation: “We don’t see signs of recovery in our local market.”

The article cites economists who argue that the banks are being unduly risk averse, yet are also going to be hit by commercial real estate losses. Um, if your equity base might shrink, it isn’t exactly a sound move to expand your balance sheet.

The article neglects to tie in two other issues: credit cards and CIT. Credit cards are an important, often the only , source of funding for small businesses (the Small Business Administration deems any business with fewer than 500 employees as “small”, but the low end of that range can seldom get bank loans. One colleague who had a 100 employee businesses maxed out his credit card three separate occasions to keep his venture afloat). So the scarcity and higher cost of credit card funding has a direct impact on many small companies.

CIT, another key source of funding to smaller enterprises, looks destined to file for bankruptcy. What is remarkable is that this takedown is arousing so little hue and cry. Goldman, one of CIT’s creditors, will do better if CIT fails, to the tune of $1 billion. Oh, yes, the firm claims it has merely hedged its risks, that all it will get is what it would have earned over the life of the facility if CIT survived. If you believe that, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you. An acceleration of income is more valuable that waiting for it to come in. If nothing else, you get to pay yourselves bonuses on it now. And if CIT is like a pretty much every other recent bankruptcy, there are more CDS outstanding than cash bonds, meaning more winners if it is dead rather than alive (although I’d be curious to know who were the protection writers on these policies).

In case you had any doubts that small businesses were the engines of job growth, Robert Oak at the Economic Populist gives a good recap. 65% of the jobs created in the last 16 years came from small enterprises. And they are now shedding workers at an unprecedented rate:



http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/small-business-and-jobs

In Q2, 2009, small business loans were down 57%.

Typically half of all small businesses fail in the first 5 years. Yet in this recession, small business bankruptcy rates increased 81% from Jun 2008 to June 2009.

So, anyone else seeing a catch-22 here on job creation? Anyone else seeing U.S. small business needs a government sponsored venture capital group, to offer grants, resources, guidance to stop the small business hemorrhage?

Forget manipulative tax credits on new hires (well, don't forget it, it's one minor good idea). Create a government sponsored venture capital team that literally listens to business plans, proof of concept demonstrations and helps small businesses grow. Fix the SBA. The SBA is obviously not doing that great of a job, with a 50% fail rate under normal economic conditions. It's also obvious the U.S. needs major job growth and business engine growth initiatives, since the America now needs an astounding 250,000 jobs per month for 5 years just just to get back to a 5% unemployment rate!

We need so much more to foster job creation, innovation and good old fashioned success as fast as possible. Just enabling more debt ain't gonna cut it on this one. If Soros can do it, start a venture capital fund with strict conditions, but also help and guidance, so can the U.S. government.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:49 PM
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4. We took our IRAs out of the stock market last year.
I'm not ready to reinvest until the job market looks better, if even then. We lost a buncle last year before we got out -- I don't trust any of this stuff.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 07:01 PM
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11. Sure we've learned something from this crisis. You can sell trillion$ of worthless securities
Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 07:03 PM by kenny blankenship
to the world, hedge them with trillions more in CDS side bets, bankrupt the firm that pays you tens of millions a year, along with bankrupting everyone else, and NOT GO TO JAIL. Not only will you not go to jail, the government will come running with bags of cash to make you look solvent again.

Valuable lesson? Literally priceless.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 07:54 PM
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12. As long as you pay off the right politicians. n/t
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