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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 09:16 AM
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What's the best way to grill for the environment?
I asked this question on a board of posters talking about grilling, but got no answer.

Has anyone compared the different grilling methods for environmental costs/damage? Wood vs. charcoal vs. propane?

I'd be interested to know the comparisons for both extraction and air quality.

Anyone? Anyone?

Gracias for the help of those in the know.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 09:18 AM
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1. Propane seems like a cleaner burn,
but I don't know
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 09:21 AM
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2. expect propane
is cleanest. Wood IS a renewable resource and tastes best, IMO. Charcoal is probably worst as it is actually burned twice and usually uses starter fluid - which if I recall from some regulations in California a few years back was one of the worst culprits. Sorry, too lazy to go check anything for real. Will check back and see what others write, though.

Steak Tartare - hehehe
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 09:39 AM
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3. Semi-correct on charcoal.
It is burned twice and is probably a CO2 gusher, but it is possible to use an electric igniter that makes starter fluid unnecessary (and doesn't add that nasty petroleum taste to the food).
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:14 AM
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4. Charcoal can be started with just newspaper...
...if you put it in one of those "chimney" things to get it started.
No electricity or petroleum needed.

Once it's going, dump the charcoal into the grill and cook.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:39 AM
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6. Yeah. That works.
About half the time.

I used to do that, but it was such a pain in the butt.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 04:07 PM
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7. I Have Found the Chimney Gets it Started Faster than the Fluid
OK, it may not be as much fun as dumping more fluid on an already-smoldering
bed of charcoal and having go WOOOOSH and almost burn the hair off your hands, but...

Whatever method you use, it works better if the charcoal is dry.
I have an old plastic catfood bucket I keep it in once I open the bag, so I can close it
up and keep it dry.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-04 11:56 AM
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10. Or with a propane torch on charcoal
I nuke about a dozen coals and that gets my little fire going...
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 10:36 AM
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5. Solar!!
OK, so it's baking not grilling but you get to do it outdoors :)

http://www.sunoven.com/usa.asp
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-04 11:38 PM
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8. Wow, that's a really cool idea
I wonder if it would work in Seattle, though?!;)
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-04 10:31 PM
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9. I suppose the best way to grill for the environment would involve
not grilling a cow. The manner in which cows are produced for the purposes of grilling them is rather bad for the environment under the current conditions of petroleum based agriculture. One can grill vegetables, and even better, if one has access to land, grow them with wholesome compost and minimal pesticides.

Failing that, I would probably come down on the side of charcoal, since it is biologically obtained and thus doesn't under most circumstances require fossil fuels. Fossil fuels exacerbate the most serious environmental threat humanity has ever faced, global warming. On the other hand, from a health standpoint, the propane definitely burns cleaner, except when the immolated cow drips blood on the flame, giving oxidation products that are very dubious from a health standpoint. Of course, the cow does the same thing when it drips on charcoal.

Some advice from the authorities on how to reduce your cancer risk while making a burnt offering to god of your palate:

"Reduce Your Cancer Risk From Grilled Meat
Research suggests that grilled meat may increase the risk of certain types of cancer. Red meats, poultry and fish produce compounds called heterocyclic amines (known carcinogens) when cooked at high temperatures. Another type of carcinogen called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons are formed when animal fat drips onto hot coals which then flame up and deposit the carcinogens on the meat. You can reduce your exposure to these carcinogens by following the following grilling tips:

"Choose lean cuts of meat to grill, instead of high-fat varieties such as ribs or sausages.
Trim fats from meats when possible and remove skin from poultry.
Use tongs or a spatula to turn foods instead of a fork. Piercing meat with a fork allows fats and juices to drip down onto the hot coals which causes flame-ups.
Removed charred areas from meat before eating.
Marinate meats in marinade that contains anti-oxidants (vinegar, citrus juice, herbs, spices and olive oil) as research suggests that this may help inhibit the formation of carcinogens on grilled meat."


http://ag.ansc.purdue.edu/meat_quality/grilling.html

Actually, my mean spirited sarcasm aside, on a serious vein (or seriously charred artery) I very much like this question. It makes an excellent point. Care for the environment involves lots of thinking about choices we make in ordinary everyday life. It is not a matter of wholesome good mannered caring people (or at least people who describe themselves as such) vs. evil money grubbing predatory corporations. There are many tiny things that people can do to give our planet a chance at survival. That you are asking this question at all is damned decent of you. Keep up the good thinking.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 07:43 PM
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11. Buy yourself a Big Green Egg
by design the egg uses very little charcoal and the food, from steaks to ribs to cakes to pies to everything I've cooked on it is to die for. I would say the BGE is the most environmentally friendly of them all. slightly expensive but never wears out, any way the price is soon forgotten.
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