Skinner Steam Engine Electricity Generator

[madokie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQteZyjTwmQ&feature=related

this caught my eye while looking for something else and I'm posting it just for the fun of it. enjoy

[Zachstar]

1. Get ready to see these being powered by wood and dirty coal.

There is no real solution to cheap oil yet. If the economy goes into a depression and oil continues to rise then you will start to see people powering their homes with steam powered system.

And they will burn whatever it takes. Paper, Trash, Any coal, grass clippings, forest wood, etc..

People need to get serious and get some real solutions in place before we go back to the days of coal and horse.

[madokie]

2. what we need is a Manhattan type project for developing alternate energy sources

fossil fuels is going to kill us all but the world could bounce back from a big die off from air pollution in a relatively short time whereas with nuclear energy the world will be poisoned for many centuries.

[Zachstar]

3. Not true in you take in our willingness to improve and explore!

No what is killing us now is the fact that most of the nuclear industry stopped advancing after the incidents. Leaving people to depend on the toxic oil.

Fission was ALWAYS supposed to lead to Fusion. Even if we were 90 percent nuclear we would continue to develop alt sources. MAINLY because we want the neutron generation that allows the waste of the entire industry to be burned in a few years safely.

The die off will NOT happen due to air pollution. It will happen because cheap oil is no more and food production more or less relies most of the time on oil product fueled machines.

What is worse is that massive amounts of deforestation and coal mining of ANYTHING that can burn will be utilized to power a desperate half-measure. Steam will take back over and cause massive amounts of air pollution to further mess things up for later generations.

Think of it this way. Global Warming or Lack of oil mean starvation on a wide scale. Any way you put it and you know that the time to make fusion is NOW.

There are several efforts on the way to develop fusion. The biggest one says 2030 for first power plant. The others I'd say 2020 at current rates.

What is needed is the .gov .edu .mil .com and .org to work together to promote fusion. They ALL will benefit. EVEN the oil companies if they choose to invest NOW.

This is the fusion I feel is the most promising. Developed by the team led by the late Dr. Robert Bussard.

http://www.emc2fusion.org/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1996321846673788606

Current status...

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/SantaFeNorthernNM/Robert_Bussard__1928_2007_Physicist_known_for_pursuits_into_fus

[madokie]

4. A manhattan type project

do we have fusion and if we do why are we not making electric with it and if not then where you coming from.

http://www.emc2fusion.org /

this seems to be old and trying to sell something

I have no dog in this fight ok

[Zachstar]

5. What?!

Old, Trying to sell somthing?! Did you read and view the other link at all?

That site was put up after a long sprint of discussion on different forums. It is not old at all.

PLEASE do some research before making comments on this. It COULD be our future.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. What we need is a "Free Energy Machine" that either really works

and produces kilowatts, or we need the funding to find one.



http://www.amazon.com/Energy-vacuum-Concepts-principles-Bearden/dp/B0006S4ZQG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1199584585&sr=8-1
7 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Makes you think..., January 3, 2006
By Peter Wilson (Canberra, Australia.) - See all my reviews
I give this book 5 stars because it makes me think. I have been researching harmonic resonance for years and this book is like having a friend looking over my shoulder encouraging me to trust my instincts and be brave enough to trying new things without fear of being ridiculed. There should be more books like this that encourage all of us to question those things we currently take for granted. Most of the maths is beyond me, however the author has a nice way of explaining concepts so this isn't a problem. Well done... this book is a keeper.

[Zachstar]

9. If there is such a thing as "Free Energy"

Humaninity is just not ready for it. I hate to say it but we have not risen to a high enough level of intelligence overall to even attempt to try to investigate it seriously.

It is like the moon hoax crap. You can go to the moon and snap high res photos of the footprints and the flag and the landing stage. Yet they will STILL say you or the .gov "shopped" the images. So until we get to a point where we get past our ******* egos and crap we will never be able to investigate it seriously and any major attempt will quickly be derailed.

God gave the universe so much wonder and science. We know basically nothing of it. So I will not assume it can't exist. In the future I hope we will seriously attempt to understand more about such a possibility.

Give it another 3-4 generations (Under fusion) and maybe it will be investigated seriously.

In the meantime we got less than 50 years to find a complete solution to fossil fuels. I truly think that fusion is the only way we can avoid a serious loss here.

[madokie]

13. did he really do that or are you just making it up

gave the universe so much wonder and science
I'm ahh, how do you say this, blown away with that, what more can be said I ask
peace

[OKIsItJustMe]

14. Religion beget Science

Both started out as ways to explain the world.

Plato (and his followers) assumed that the world was created, following certain rational "laws" which could be determined and comprehended through study.

[Zachstar]

15. I am not pushing my religious beliefs on you.

I am merely stating my belief that god created the universe with wonders that will puzzle and dazzle us for thousands of years surely.

I am not telling you to believe he did or didn't or that religion is any, way, shape, or form is true.

Just in case.. Please don't group me in with any fundies. My view of god is completely different. I believe I am in the clear saying that I believe in a religious "Influence" as long as I don't deliberately try to change or void science with religion.

Had I said that a religious entity insists that there is no "free energy" then I would be in the wrong because there is absolutely no way to prove that.

My belief in god helps "enrich" and in a small way describe in beautiful ways science for me. I feel the universe is a beautiful work of art and science that is yet to be explored.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

16. There are those with extremely large brains and lots of alphabet

soup after their names who firmly believe that in one cubic foot of "space" there is enough energy to run NYC for 30 years or so.

What the zero point energy folks are tapping into is exactly that energy TODAY though in small doses. You could in a way consider it a form of cold fusion. If you are interested in this sort of technology the DVD's available at Tom Bearden's site are from what I have seen truly awesome. I found it funny that a week ago or so Amazon listed his book at 129$ for new and used. It lists for 59 NEW at his site. I plan to order the DVD's asap cuz a relative of mine with a pretty impressive engineering background is interested to the max.

At least look at the trailer, it doesn't give away much but it is uplifting to know that there are some pioneers out there who didn't lie down and say, "That's impossible".

http://www.cheniere.org/

[Zachstar]

18. ok?

You could have the chimp himself a believer in the idea and it will not mean anything.

There is simply no way any SERIOUS funding will come to the project until people get in a different mindset.

No book, No DVD is going to change that.

There is currently a project in development to produce a space ready thruster that uses microwaves in a tube to manuver small spacecraft by power alone! Yet it receieves a huge amount of assumed impossibility that poisons its chances of being deployed quickly.

Take that and multiply it by thousands and you get this mess.

Give it a rest and just enjoy the reading material now. Maybe in your lifetime you will see it considered.

Oh and BTW Even tho Cold Fusion was eventually proven it is still the standard of egotistic backlash that will keep us on conventional forms of energy for many years. Wait until that mess eventually dies down.

[patch1234]

7. nothing wrong with wood for fuel .n/t

[Zachstar]

8. Nothing wrong with coal either.

I just love the thought of going outside to shovel coal I bought from a coal mine that was supposedly closed years ago into the steam power generator I bought at the local swap meet.

Think of the wonder watching all the smoke day and night.

[patch1234]

10. combined heat and power, very efficient

that is why home CHP units are the way to go.

[OKIsItJustMe]

11. Coal is quite different from wood

If you're maintaining a "wood lot" you grow trees which take carbon out of the environment. When you burn them, they release that carbon back into the environment.

Coal on the other hand...

[OKIsItJustMe]

12. Uniflow Steam Engines are neat

Read about them here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniflow_steam_engine

However, Stirling engines are really cool!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine

The most efficient solar system to date is a parabolic dish reflector, with a Stirling engine hanging in its focus.
http://www.stirlingenergy.com/

[NickB79]

17. Except for the massive deforestation and erosion that inevitably occurs

When it is harvested on a scale large enough to supply a decent supply of energy.

[Zachstar]

19. That and use of coal from mines closed for years.

You know damn well that people will open up old unprofitable mines to shovel uncleaned coal into cheap bags for sell.

So here is the need.

If we are to make it to fusion before collapse. We need to seriously get a fusion concept on high development.

If things are flushing down too fast then it is time for people to develop cheap and efficient steam AC system plans so that the damage will be minimized. Remember that if people start building homebuilt systems they will likely have insane waste rates that hugely contribute to climate change.