Fascinating Photos From BBC Showing Global Warming Over Time

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Really interesting series available here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/05/sci_nat_how_the_world_is_changing/html/1.stm

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1. kick

[MuseRider]

2. Thanks.

Very interesting.

[glitch]

3. What a great pic - anybody else find this amusing:

"Other scientists say its reduction is due to complicated shifts in glacial dynamics and local geology."

[jpak]

4. I met Gary Brassch several years ago at Palmer Station (Antarctica)

He also has "before and after" photos of the glacier located behind the station.

In the Overwinter photo from 1972 (or 1970 - I forget) the glacier absolutely loomed over the station and supplied it with fresh water in the summer.

The glacier has since retreated hundreds of meters from its position in the early '70's. The melt-water impoundment dried up and the station had to install an RO system to produce fresh water.

Glacial retreat also transformed a local feature called Dead Seal Point into Dead Seal Island.

Global warming? Can't convince me....:)

[ChemEng]

5. What about the Franz Josef glacier in New Zealand?

Apparently it is growing...

(very cool pictures)
<http://members.tripod.com/NZPhoto/south/04Glaciers.htm>

<http://www3.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3159103a11,00.html>

<http://www.techcentralstation.com/020405G.html>

[jpak]

7. I was at the Franz Josef glacier last week (for real)

I was on a 45 day research cruise to the Ross Sea and spent 2 weeks in NZ afterward (still jet-lagged too).

There is a sign on the road entering the park indicating where the terminus of the glacier was located in 1937 (IIRC). The glacier has retreated a couple of kilometers up the valley since then.

The FJG is a fast flowing glacier but it (like virtually all alpine glaciers world-wide) is in retreat due to global warming.

[ChemEng]

8. What is your area of research? And is it

as pretty as it looks in the pictures?

[jpak]

10. Effect of enhanced UV (result of the Ozone Hole) on marine microorganisms

This year was our post-Ozone Hole cruise, next year is the Ozone Hole season cruise.

The FJG was pretty spectacular - we climbed up a couple of hundred meters on it. I'm not quite sure we were allowed to do that but there weren't any signs to the contrary.

You're not allowed on the Fox without proper equipment and a guide. You really can't see the whole glacier from the terminus but it was pretty cool just to be there.

Had a couple of days after the cruise at McMurdo Station. Cross country skied the Castle Rock Loop (up and down the glacier and across the Ross Ice Shelf to Scott Base). It was one of the most exhilarating things I've ever done. Perfect weather too...

[ChemEng]

11. I hope to make it to NZ some day....

I have some friends who were there last year who toured the South Island, and they said it was one of the best trips they have ever been on. <sigh>

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9. Dude, who hate my icebergs?

astounding

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12. Silly nonsense

These pictures prove that all this global warming stuff is just exaggerated rhetoric by enviro-crazies.

I read in the local paper just today a piece by Amy Ridenour and Ryan Balis from the National Center for Public Policy Research, a conservative think tank, about the hot-air inflated Kyoto Protocol. Here's a quote, "Despite its staggering price tag, Kyoto would do virtually nothing to limit the slight, almost immeasurable amount of global warming that may be occurring."

See, that means there's no quantifiable evidence that warming is taking place. Those pictures don't prove anything more than a little bit of ice melted or a little less snow fell. And besides Kyoto will just cost jobs, right? Ridenour and Balis conclude, "With Kyoto's prospects for influencing world climate appearing bleak, the United States and Australia should resist what may be stepped-up pressure. Signing such a treaty is not worth one American job, let alone hundreds of thousands."

Who wants to lose their job over a little bit of silly ice? It's been scientifically roven that it is impossible to create jobs and implement environmental regulations at the same time. The conservatives have done studies to demonstrate the economic bloodbath that would occur should such a foolish scheme gain acceptance.

When large parts of the Eastern U.S. and Gulf Coast are underwater, inundated by rising sea levels, we will have the opportunity to develop new and better oceanside resorts while a thriving tourist industry will be built around underwater tours like that of Old Manhattan. The free market will adjust while millions of lucky Americans will be presented with new challenges and opportunities.

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13. LOL

:)

After bangin' my head against the wall with some DUers that buy the NCPA line of BS in GD, it was nice to find a little levity here.