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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 08:18 PM
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Food, water should be free for all
For real or a joke?

http://www.dailyemerald.com/opinion/food-water-should-be-free-for-all-1.1258607

If you took Biology 101, you may remember “Natural Law 1: Every human needs adequate nutrition, clean air and clean water, and, therefore, must respect the symbiotic environmental processes relevant to those needs.”

Air is abundant; therefore, it’s free. Nobody charges others for breathing air. With desalination technology, we can now turn (rising) salty water into fresh water, and we do! Until recently, only 1 percent of the earth’s water could be used for drinking and irrigation. Now, almost 100 percent is available. Water can now become abundant, and should therefore become free. No more wars over fresh water (like Israel-Palestine), or death and disease due to lack of clean water.

With hydroponic technology, we can now grow anything with just water and electricity, and we do! We now grow food in deserts and the poles. If food no longer requires land or sun, we can grow anything anywhere and on a vertical scale. Imagine a tall building with a different vegetable or fruit in every floor. We can get rid of all world famines and malnutrition. In fact, every vegetable and fruit would become equally available everywhere. We can make food abundant anywhere, and therefore free everywhere. Every year, millions of people die from lack of clean water or inadequate nutrition. Thanks to hydroponic agriculture, millions of lives (and much more suffering) can be saved
every year.

But if hydroponic agriculture requires water and electricity, and only water is free, how do you acquire and pay electricity? Well, the only clean, safe, environmental, sustainable and recyclable energy is electricity that comes from geothermal, solar, wind, and wave energy.

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humpty dumpty Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:24 PM
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1. Free food?
I want my pie!
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:39 PM
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2. Are Americans really that stupid when it comes to science.
Nothing is free. Nothing.

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 09:54 PM
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3. The power for the lights and pumps alone makes this the most expensive food grown.
It is not feasible on any but a small scale.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:24 PM
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6. Apparently at least one is. nt
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:19 PM
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4. Okay
YOU buy the land, the fertilize, cultivate and harvest the food, then transport it to my doorstep for free--and I'll eat it.

The problem is your rationale (and use the word very loosely) is that the reason air is free is that there is zero cost for production and zero cost for delivery. None of the techniques you mention (e.g., desalination technology, hydroponic technology) produce or deliver food and water for free.

When you can figure out how to create and deliver food and water at zero cost then it will become free too. Until then its best to keep your ideas within the 420 haze of the hot tub.

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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:23 PM
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5. Just to be clear
Edited on Mon Mar-08-10 10:28 PM by LARED
This was not my idea, nor do I think it remotely plausible.

I was wondering if the guy that wrote this really believed this nonsense or if he was pulling our collective leg.
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:26 PM
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7. My apologies
I didn't pick up on that initially.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-10 10:28 PM
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8. No problem, I did not make that very clear in the OP. nt
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