France: 70,000 More Should Evacuate After Fukushima

[bananas]

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/05/24-2

Published on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 by Agence France Presse
Watchdog: 70,000 More Should Evacuate After Fukushima

PARIS - Seventy thousand people living beyond the 20-kilometre no-go zone around Fukushima should be evacuated because of radioactivity deposited by the crippled nuclear plant, a watchdog said.

Around 70,000 people, including 9,500 children aged up to 14, live in the area, "the most contaminated territory outside the evacuation zone," France's Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety (IRSN) said. (REUTERS/Issei Kato) Updating its assessment of the March 11 disaster, France's Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety (IRSN) highlighted an area northwest of the plant that lies beyond the 20-km (12 mile) zone whose inhabitants have already been evacuated.

Radioactivity levels in this area range from several hundred becquerels per square metre to thousands or even several million bequerels per square metre, the IRSN report, issued late Monday, said.

Around 70,000 people, including 9,500 children aged up to 14, live in the area, "the most contaminated territory outside the evacuation zone," the agency said.

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IRSN is an official French government agency:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_de_radioprotection_et_de_s%C3%BBret%C3%A9_nucl%C3%A9aire

The French Institut de radioprotection et de sûreté nucléaire (IRSN) ("Radioprotection and Nuclear Safety Institute") is a public official establishment with an industrial and commercial aspect (EPIC) created by the AFSSE Act (Agence française de sécurité sanitaire environnementale - French Agency of Sanitary Environmental Security) and by the February 22, 2002 decreed n°2002-254. The IRSN is placed under the conjoint authority of the Defence minister, the Environmental minister, the Industry minister and the Health and Research minister.

The IRSN gathers more than 1 500 experts and researchers from the Institut de protection et de sûreté nucléaire (IPSN - Protection and Nuclear Safety Institute) and the Office de protection contre les rayonnements ionisants (OPRI - Ionizing radiations protection office). These scientists are thus competents on nuclear safety, radioactive protection and control of nuclear and sensitive materials.

The IRSN realize investigations, expertises and studies on the fields of nuclear safety, protection against ionizing radiation, protection and control of nuclear material, and protection against voluntary ill-advised acts.

[cutlassmama]

1. the US said to 50kg

[bananas]

2. The US said 50 miles, which is 80 km

[lbrtbell]

3. I say evacuate the freakin' country

I know it's impossible, but that's the only way people are going to be safe.

[Nihil]

15. "Let's just bug out and call it even, man! What are we even talking about this for?"

"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
"Fuckin' A!"

:popcorn:

[jpak]

4. but...but...but... we have been told this could NEVER be as bad as Chernobyl!!!111

This is teh impossibles!!11

yup

[AtheistCrusader]

8. And it still isn't.

[kristopher]

9. You cannot know that, therefore it is pure nuclear industry spin.

In addition to an unknown amount of radioactivity being discharged into unknown locations with unknown health and safety consequences, there is no provision within level 7 for your claims.

Can you provide a citation from the IAEA that shows a breakdown within level 7?

Can you show a rigorous accounting of all the radioactivity discharged to date, where that radioactive material went, and what the long term health consequences of the radioactivity releases will be?

[AtheistCrusader]

10. So let me re-phrase your post for the person I was responding to.

"You cannot know that, therefore it is pure anti-nuclear activist spin.

In addition to an unknown amount of radioactivity being discharged into unknown locations with unknown health and safety consequences, there is no provision within level 7 for your claims.

Can you provide a citation from the IAEA that shows a breakdown within level 7?

Can you show a rigorous accounting of all the radioactivity discharged to date, where that radioactive material went, and what the long term health consequences of the radioactivity releases will be?"


His claim of 'worse' has about the same merit. I generally trust the crowdsourced radiation monitoring that is going on, but I will happily admit, there has been no total accounting of all radiation released, airborne, and waterborne, and there won't be for some time. The numbers we have now could be significantly adjusted up or down.

[FBaggins]

11. Actually, yes, you CAN "know that".

When reality is inconvenient to you... you call it "spin".

Doesn't make it any less a reality.

"It" is "still" nowhere close to Chernobyl. Even a fevered imagination pretending that ten more things will fall apart and suddenly make things much worse does not change the fact that it ISN'T currently anywhere close.

Can you provide a citation from the IAEA that shows a breakdown within level 7?

Now THERE is an example of spin. Are you seriously trying on that ridiculous "a 7 is a 7" spin again?

So if Fukushima resumes active fission in all three reactors... then explodes... and increased the radiation 100-fold. We can all expect you to shout that nothing has dotten worse because there is no breakdown within level 7?

[jpak]

12. You have no data to back that up - the IAEA does

Fail

yup

[FBaggins]

13. The IAEA does?

Ok... and they say that the two are not comparable. Chernobyl was much worse.

"Fail" indeed. :rofl:

[AtheistCrusader]

14. Everything the IAEA has released shows it to be far less.

Let me know when they say otherwise.

[ensho]

5. I got a email alert for RSOE that said the same thing

70,000 had to move away

move away to what? tents?

[kristopher]

6. Don't worry...

The nuclear industry will assure you that it considers 70,000 additional displaced humans to be a 'trivial' price to pay for the glory of hosting one of their Temples of Uranus. And if you don't agree that's just too bad, it just means you're obviously a mentally deficient scaremonger trying to poison the planet.

You can trust the nuclear industry - MIT tells you so.

[AndyTiedye]

7. k/r

Kicked and Recommended. I hope those people get out of there soon!