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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:02 AM
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White House guns for grizzlies that are too good at survival

From Tim Reid in Washington



THE Bush Administration will announce plans this week to remove the grizzly bear from the endangered species list, provoking a furious response from conservation groups.

The White House is backing a plan to remove the protected status of the bears in areas surrounding the Yellowstone National Park because their numbers have gone up spectacularly in the 30 years since they were listed. If adopted, the plan could lead to the reintroduction of grizzly hunting across 2.4 million hectares (6 million acres) of wild and spectacular land in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming.

The grizzly, or Ursus horribilis, is one of America’s most fabled animals, and once roamed unchecked from the Great Plains to the Pacific Ocean.

By 1975, however, after hunting and the destruction of much of their habitat because of human expansion, only 200 grizzlies survived in the greater Yellowstone area.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1870807,00.html
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belpejic Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:06 AM
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1. Completely disgusting
This is absolutely appalling. If people want to hunt grizzlies (which is in and itself a pointless search for trophies), let them go to Alaska, where it's legal and tightly regulated.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:12 AM
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2. This will allow people to kill grizzlies who migrate out of
Yellowstone Park in their normal migratory patterns. Fish in Barrel.

The other grizzly populations outside of glacier park in the
continental are very small a few in the Idaho panhandle, northern
Washington, Montana, and reports of rare grizzly sightings in
Colorado & New Mexico.

Later this week I going off with a friend to scout for deer hunting
spots too.

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DJ MEW Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:23 AM
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3. 600 Grizzlies is hardly a come back
With a growth rate of only 4 percent a year there is no way that the population would survive if hunting was reintroduced.

"Kill the bear so I have a rug to put down in the house I built from the all the trees in the local area that I cut down so I could drill for the fossil fuels that heat the house. I love the smell of decimation in the morning." :sarcasm:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:24 AM
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4. if the government would speed up plans to
hook up parks via a kind of natural pathway -- this wouldn't have to happen.

and then we wouldn't create ''island'' populations of wonderful critters.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:18 PM
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5. Another great day for Repiglicans
Their motto? "If it's moving, kill it. If not's not moving, fuck it. If it's not nailed down, steal it."

How ironic this story is, in light of the passages from Scooter Libby's 1996 "book" "The Apprentice," in which a little girl is locked in a cage and forced to copulate with a bear.

Remember: Judge Alito approves of strip searches for little girls.

It all sorta comes together, doesn't it?
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:42 PM
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6. I really can't stand it. I just can't stand it.
It is not Ursus that is horribilis.

There is a species of animal called Homo repukus horribilis. In spite of the genus designation, it is not really human. It is a species that should go extinct.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:40 PM
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7. Wyoming is Cheney's state and he's been missing from the W.H.
lately. Guess he's getting a jump start on things. This is about the worst news I've heard. On the California flag is the grizzlie which was hunted to extinction.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:35 PM
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8. The grizzlies in the USA along the Alberta border are genetically
very weak. They are not thriving. They need to import grizzlies from Canada.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:19 AM
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9. Same applies to the humans from what I've read!
Sorry ... it was just too tempting!

:evilgrin:
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